Saskue was born with a Silver spoon in his mouth Naruto had nothing

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Sasuke never trained?

At age 7, Sasuke had to work hard for his Fire Style so he could make his father be proud of him and top of that his mouth was born from the training and result of training my friend.

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^Couldn't even do Fire Style like Naruto couldn't do Shadow Clones.


^Sasuke was even put down by his own father...notice how only adult Uchihas can only do Katon and Sasuke was only 7 years old.


^Notice, there are burn marks on Sasuke's mouth....a sign of training.

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^All of that training allowed Sasuke to use Fire Style not because he was born with a sliver spoon in his mouth.

Sasuke never trained for the Cruse Mark and gets full control of it?

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^I as far as i can remember the CM was going eat up Sasuke like Kurama does to Naruto when he was fighting with Naruto in the Final Valley.....Sasuke didn't control his CM until 3 years later and at that time he was training with Oro meaning Sasuke trained for CM.

If you want to call EMS,CM and training with Orochimaru for 3 years none stop a sliver spoon in his mouth then BM,KM, and training with Jiraiya is also a sliver spoon on in Naruto's mouth.
 
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Sasuke never trained?

At age 7, Sasuke had to work hard for his Fire Style so he could make his father be proud of him and top of that his mouth was born from the training and result of training my friend.

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^Couldn't even do Fire Style like Naruto couldn't do Shadow Clones.


^Sasuke was even put down by his own father...notice how only adult Uchihas can only do Katon and Sasuke was only 7 years old.


^Notice, there are burn marks on Sasuke's mouth....a sign of training.

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^All of that training allowed Sasuke to use Fire Style not because he was born with a sliver spoon in his mouth.

Sasuke never trained for the Cruse Mark and gets full control of it?

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^I as far as i can remember the CM was going eat up Sasuke like Kurama does to Naruto when he was fighting with Naruto in the Final Valley.....Sasuke didn't control his CM until 3 years later and at that time he was training with Oro meaning Sasuke trained for CM.

If you want to call EMS,CM and training with Orochimaru for 3 years none stop a sliver spoon in his mouth then BM,KM, and training with Jiraiya is also a sliver spoon on in Naruto's mouth.
saskue didnt train for cm lmaooooooooo he pop out of a jar and had control ... all of saskue powers were giving to him with out any need of training thats my point ....naruto the one to make his own jutsus rasenshariken on his own ...... naruto trained his ass off for sage mode .... naruto had to fight the kyuubis chakara ...... saskue was simply given upgrades to boost his powers with out any special training ....
 

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saskue didnt train for cm lmaooooooooo he pop out of a jar and had control ... all of saskue powers were giving to him with out any need of training thats my point ....naruto the one to make his own jutsus rasenshariken on his own ...... naruto trained his ass off for sage mode .... naruto had to fight the kyuubis chakara ...... saskue was simply given upgrades to boost his powers with out any special training ....
I see that you're too ignorant to accept things.


^One second in Kyuubi Mode

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^Two second later his in Bijuu Mode

Lol, Naruto must worked really hard...didn't he?

Sasuke made Kirin which is his own and no one else in NV and in fact Sasuke created Natural energy with his Jutsu and Naruto never done that.
 
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I'm getting tired of people accusing any random character they don't like of only being strong because of handouts, when in reality most characters have them in some way or another.

-Kakashi/Obito's eye: Part of what makes Kakashi so skilled in copying so many jutsu the sharingan from Obito.
-Deidara/mouth kinjutsu: Deidara's kkg is explosion release but the mouths he uses for the explosive clay from a kinjutsu he had stolen from Iwigakure.
-Kakuzu/Earth grudge: The threads that make up Kakazu's powers and body structure from experiments done to him by his village and his power is based on stealing hearts from others.
-Kisame/Samehada:Kisame stole samehada from its original wielder
-Nagato/Rinnegan:Nagato had gotten his rinnegan from Madara
-Naruto/Kurama: Naruto's greatest power is the fact that he's a jinchuriki
-Killer Bee/Hachibi:Same as Naruto
-Yamato/Hashi DNA:Yamato can only use mokuton from what Oro gave him
-Gaara/Shukaku powers:Gaara can only control sand because he had Shukau inside of him.
Madara/Izuna's Eyes: Madara needed Izuna's eyes to ascend to EMS

your premise is flawed in a bunch of other ways. Naruto was given Kurama for the purpose of making Naruto stronger and he's only gotten as far as he has becuase of kurama's chakra. You also neglected to mention the fact that Naruto gets free giant chakra reserves from his Uzumaki lineage.
Sasuke had to train to master his sharingan from 1t to 3t, Naruto was born with giant chakra reserves. Sasuke had to train to master his curse mark. MS by itself isn't a free power-up. He had to train to master Amaterasu-Blaze release and Susanoo, so yes he trained to master MS.
 

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This whole thread is based on naruto and sasuke learning the same way. I hate to tell sasuke haters but sasuke is a natural born genius while naruto(though smarter than he used to be in part 1) is not a genius. What does the term genius mean in naruto well to put it simply they learn everything easily and this makes it seem as though they don't really train. Characters like naruto are fast learners which basically means they learn stuff quickly but still need lots of training to master.

The op is referring to part 1 naruto and sasuke, so i will stick in the realms of part 1. In part 1 sasuke unlocked sharigan, learned chidori, and received the cs. Naruto learned shadow clone, learned rasengan, learned summoning jutsu but has to use kurama chakra to summon gamabunta, and at birth had the nine tails sealed inside him( the 4th designed the seal so that kurama's chakra would mix in with naruto's chakra). Remember this is part 1 naruto and sasuke, and as we can see here naruto has been given the most powerful tailbeast that is only second to the juubi. Sasuke on the other hand has unlocked the sharingan( yes people i know this is hard to believe but uchihas do not have the sharingan at birth) while naruto was given a massive chakra source.

Now for reference sake, I will include part 2 now.

Part 2 Naruto

In part 2 naruto mastered rasengan + rasenshuriken, mastered shadow clones usage, and mastered sage mode. Now with the help of bee and kushina naruto defeated kurama and gained KCM. Naruto then proceeded to befriend kurama and gained BM. Now having kurama as a friend naruto now has someone who is full with knowledge. So thanks to kurama when someone fights naruto, they are really fighting 2 people(naruto and kurama).

Part 2 Sasuke

In part 2 sasuke mastered sharingan, mastered chidori + kirin, mastered cs(lost cs), unlocked ms( yes people sasuke unlocked ms after hearing the truth about Itachi), mastered ms, mastered the ms techniques, and he gained ems. Now im pretty sure the ems doesn't talk and people need to realize sasuke fought Itachi and then unlocked ms. Now even if Itachi meant to die against sasuke most people forget that Itachi didn't want to kill Kakashi( part 1 + 2) and he didn't want to kill naruto. But kakashi and naruto stood no chance against Itachi while sasuke put a very decent fight and forced Itachi to unleash susanoo.

From my points they both have been given power: Naruto nine tails and sasuke ems, but naruto power happens to be a talking fox with massive chakra while sasuke's is a new style to his eyes that grant him immense power. Both are from special clans but naruto has been given the the nine tails( second strongest tailbeast).


i dont think sasuke can really win on his own ... sage mode kabuto would have beaten him with out itachi
Yes Sasuke hardly did anything in that fight other than Dodge
If ya'll actually read the chapter then you both would have noticed that Itachi told sasuke not to kill and he also said stand back i'm about to use Izanagi. Sasuke dodged and defended because he couldn't kill kabuto because Itachi wanted to end edo tensei. All sasuke moves are killing moves.
 
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I see that you're too ignorant to accept things.


^One second in Kyuubi Mode

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^Two second later his in Bijuu Mode

Lol, Naruto must worked really hard...didn't he?

Sasuke made Kirin which is his own and no one else in NV and in fact Sasuke created Natural energy with his Jutsu and Naruto never done that.
what u talking about ??
 

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This whole thread is based on naruto and sasuke learning the same way. I hate to tell sasuke haters but sasuke is a natural born genius while naruto(though smarter than he used to be in part 1) is not a genius. What does the term genius mean in naruto well to put it simply they learn everything easily and this makes it seem as though they don't really train. Characters like naruto are fast learners which basically means they learn stuff quickly but still need lots of training to master.

The op is referring to part 1 naruto and sasuke, so i will stick in the realms of part 1. In part 1 sasuke unlocked sharigan, learned chidori, and received the cs. Naruto learned shadow clone, learned rasengan, learned summoning jutsu but has to use kurama chakra to summon gamabunta, and at birth had the nine tails sealed inside him( the 4th designed the seal so that kurama's chakra would mix in with naruto's chakra). Remember this is part 1 naruto and sasuke, and as we can see here naruto has been given the most powerful tailbeast that is only second to the juubi. Sasuke on the other hand has unlocked the sharingan( yes people i know this is hard to believe but uchihas do not have the sharingan at birth) while naruto was given a massive chakra source.

Now for reference sake, I will include part 2 now.

Part 2 Naruto

In part 2 naruto mastered rasengan + rasenshuriken, mastered shadow clones usage, and mastered sage mode. Now with the help of bee and kushina naruto defeated kurama and gained KCM. Naruto then proceeded to befriend kurama and gained BM. Now having kurama as a friend naruto now has someone who is full with knowledge. So thanks to kurama when someone fights naruto, they are really fighting 2 people(naruto and kurama).

Part 2 Sasuke

In part 2 sasuke mastered sharingan, mastered chidori + kirin, mastered cs(lost cs), unlocked ms( yes people sasuke unlocked ms after hearing the truth about Itachi), mastered ms, mastered the ms techniques, and he gained ems. Now im pretty sure the ems doesn't talk and people need to realize sasuke fought Itachi and then unlocked ms. Now even if Itachi meant to die against sasuke most people forget that Itachi didn't want to kill Kakashi( part 1 + 2) and he didn't want to kill naruto. But kakashi and naruto stood no chance against Itachi while sasuke put a very decent fight and forced Itachi to unleash susanoo.

From my points they both have been given power: Naruto nine tails and sasuke ems, but naruto power happens to be a talking fox with massive chakra while sasuke's is a new style to his eyes that grant him immense power. Both are from special clans but naruto has been given the the nine tails( second strongest tailbeast).






If ya'll actually read the chapter then you both would have noticed that Itachi told sasuke not to kill and he also said stand back i'm about to use Izanagi. Sasuke dodged and defended because he couldn't kill kabuto because Itachi wanted to end edo tensei. All sasuke moves are killing moves.
lollll all that means is when itachi gets him weak dont finish him off noob
 

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what u talking about ??
I talking about you saying Naruto works hard, but i just showed that Naruto doesn't work hard all the same time....he obviously pulled a BM out of his ass and that's a worst crime then just getting the EMS.

Do you get it now or should explain it more to you?
 

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Sasuke never trained?

At age 7, Sasuke had to work hard for his Fire Style so he could make his father be proud of him and top of that his mouth was born from the training and result of training my friend.

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^Couldn't even do Fire Style like Naruto couldn't do Shadow Clones.


^Sasuke was even put down by his own father...notice how only adult Uchihas can only do Katon and Sasuke was only 7 years old.


^Notice, there are burn marks on Sasuke's mouth....a sign of training.

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^All of that training allowed Sasuke to use Fire Style not because he was born with a sliver spoon in his mouth.

Sasuke never trained for the Cruse Mark and gets full control of it?

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^I as far as i can remember the CM was going eat up Sasuke like Kurama does to Naruto when he was fighting with Naruto in the Final Valley.....Sasuke didn't control his CM until 3 years later and at that time he was training with Oro meaning Sasuke trained for CM.

If you want to call EMS,CM and training with Orochimaru for 3 years none stop a sliver spoon in his mouth then BM,KM, and training with Jiraiya is also a sliver spoon on in Naruto's mouth.

The thing about Sasuke working hard to learn Katon isn't as impressive since he had his father who was the leader of the Uchihas teach him what it is, how it works and how to use it. Naruto got has Shadow Clones by reading a scroll, now what do you think is harder to accomplish having the strongest Uchiha show you how to do one of the most basic techs of their clan and also not to mention it still took Sasuke a week iirc or learn a A rank tech from words written on a scroll in only a night?



Please dont tell me Sasuke trained for the CM, all he did was swallow a few pills to learn how to control. ANYONE even Tenten can do that.

This whole thread is based on naruto and sasuke learning the same way. I hate to tell sasuke haters but sasuke is a natural born genius while naruto(though smarter than he used to be in part 1) is not a genius. What does the term genius mean in naruto well to put it simply they learn everything easily and this makes it seem as though they don't really train. Characters like naruto are fast learners which basically means they learn stuff quickly but still need lots of training to master.

The op is referring to part 1 naruto and sasuke, so i will stick in the realms of part 1. In part 1 sasuke unlocked sharigan, learned chidori, and received the cs. Naruto learned shadow clone, learned rasengan, learned summoning jutsu but has to use kurama chakra to summon gamabunta, and at birth had the nine tails sealed inside him( the 4th designed the seal so that kurama's chakra would mix in with naruto's chakra). Remember this is part 1 naruto and sasuke, and as we can see here naruto has been given the most powerful tailbeast that is only second to the juubi. Sasuke on the other hand has unlocked the sharingan( yes people i know this is hard to believe but uchihas do not have the sharingan at birth) while naruto was given a massive chakra source.

Now for reference sake, I will include part 2 now.

Part 2 Naruto

In part 2 naruto mastered rasengan + rasenshuriken, mastered shadow clones usage, and mastered sage mode. Now with the help of bee and kushina naruto defeated kurama and gained KCM. Naruto then proceeded to befriend kurama and gained BM. Now having kurama as a friend naruto now has someone who is full with knowledge. So thanks to kurama when someone fights naruto, they are really fighting 2 people(naruto and kurama).

Part 2 Sasuke

In part 2 sasuke mastered sharingan, mastered chidori + kirin, mastered cs(lost cs), unlocked ms( yes people sasuke unlocked ms after hearing the truth about Itachi), mastered ms, mastered the ms techniques, and he gained ems. Now im pretty sure the ems doesn't talk and people need to realize sasuke fought Itachi and then unlocked ms. Now even if Itachi meant to die against sasuke most people forget that Itachi didn't want to kill Kakashi( part 1 + 2) and he didn't want to kill naruto. But kakashi and naruto stood no chance against Itachi while sasuke put a very decent fight and forced Itachi to unleash susanoo.

From my points they both have been given power: Naruto nine tails and sasuke ems, but naruto power happens to be a talking fox with massive chakra while sasuke's is a new style to his eyes that grant him immense power. Both are from special clans but naruto has been given the the nine tails( second strongest tailbeast).






If ya'll actually read the chapter then you both would have noticed that Itachi told sasuke not to kill and he also said stand back i'm about to use Izanagi. Sasuke dodged and defended because he couldn't kill kabuto because Itachi wanted to end edo tensei. All sasuke moves are killing moves.

Actually it's the other way Naruto was born with untapped hidden talent, most of Sasuke's power boosts isn't because his a "natural born genius" most of them are given to him and the ones that he worked for like his Katon were taught to him by masters and it still took him quite a bit of time to develop those powers. Naruto getting the second most powerful tailed beast is irrelevant since back in part 1 he couldn't control it. Like I said before back in part 1 Naruto couldn't control Kurama's chakra so whatever influence he had was irrelevant Naruto's chakra supply while he was in base came from being a Uzumaki.



Sasuke only put up such a good fight because he was a fighting a Sick Itachi that was holding back.
 

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The thing about Sasuke working hard to learn Katon isn't as impressive since he had his father who was the leader of the Uchihas teach him what it is, how it works and how to use it. Naruto got has Shadow Clones by reading a scroll, now what do you think is harder to accomplish having the strongest Uchiha show you how to do one of the most basic techs of their clan and also not to mention it still took Sasuke a week iirc or learn a A rank tech from words written on a scroll in only a night?



Please dont tell me Sasuke trained for the CM, all he did was swallow a few pills to learn how to control. ANYONE even Tenten can do that.




Actually it's the other way Naruto was born with untapped hidden talent, most of Sasuke's power boosts isn't because his a "natural born genius" most of them are given to him and the ones that he worked for like his Katon were taught to him by masters and it still took him quite a bit of time to develop those powers. Naruto getting the second most powerful tailed beast is irrelevant since back in part 1 he couldn't control it. Like I said before back in part 1 Naruto couldn't control Kurama's chakra so whatever influence he had was irrelevant Naruto's chakra supply while he was in base came from being a Uzumaki.



Sasuke only put up such a good fight because he was a fighting a Sick Itachi that was holding back.
Lol, when ever i see this kind of retarded post it always have to be someone who is a Naruto fan and who has a Naruto avatar and also think about Naruto only.

First, Shadow Clones is only B-rank Jutsu not A-rank Jutsu so don't make **** up.



Second, it easier to learn a Jutsus from a scroll since the hands of signs are there and Naruto can easily copy them.

Strongest Uchiha show you how to do? lol, you must be sick in the head if you think Fugaku was the strongest Uchiha...he got killed by a 13 years old Itachi so don't come here with the kind of BS.

Sasuke beat Deidara,Danzo, and Naruto...where they half dead? no

Yes, i going tell you a hundred times over that Sasuke trained for the CM and i could give two **** about what your fanboy ass thinks.
 
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Naruto was born with the nine tails. His father worked his seal so that kurama's chakra naturally mixed with his own, giving him access to his chakra at an early age without having to wrestle it away like killer bee. Naruto is part uzumaki. One of the most feared clans because of their traits. Naruto has unnatural stamina. He survives battles that normal people shouldn't be able to. He takes hits that kill most people instantly, yet he survives. Naruto has unnatural chakra levels even without kurama's influence. Kakashi even stated that naruto's chakra is 4 times the amount that he has. kakshi is a kage level ninja and yet a child has otherworldly chakra levels.

Naruto is not inncocent. He is just like sasuke. he had the best traits handed to him. I would agree if naruto was not an uzumaki, just a regular kid and if he was not minato's son. Naruto was spoonfed traits from birth. he was given a monster at birth that would grant him powers that make him better than even kage level ninjas way older than him. Naruto was spoon fed by kishimoto.

Stop it with this idiotic hate. I don't like naruto. I'm meh with sasuke. I don't care about any of the main cast.
You Arent right here though!!
First of all,Naruto wasnt born with kurama...It was sealed within him! ;)
Second,you saying naruto was born in the feared Uzumaki clan!However,to see that way sasuke was born in the uchiha clan,the direct successor of SO6P..So what you say seems contradicting itself.:)
Third, being an uchiha sasuke was seriously given gifts which werent earned by him! On the other hand,Having kurama sealed inside naruto,the whole of the village was opposed to him!!
Forth,Sasuke had the support of his clan members which was slaughtered before him,which led him to darkness...but Naruto had none at all from the beginning itself.He just was his HOPE that made him who he is!
Fifth,Having Minato as dad was of no use because he realised that truth when he was kinda 14!It was his Hope and Hardwork Who created a Hero of him! :cool:
Thus what you telling didn't make total sense,you were just being a Fanboy here! This was a Sureshot Reply to your post!! :cool: :D
 

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yeah all the uchiha powers are cheat codes,seriously enter the cheat code: brother died he gets MS and three new jutsus that can be used right away with no prior knowledge or training,enter the cheat code: get brothers eyes and he will be able to spam it,enter the cheat code hashirama's dna gets rinnegan with sh!tload of moves.seriously all these free power-ups are meant to keep the uchihas in the same boat as the rest of the top tier shinobis,give a fodder kamui or susanoo and he'll be on another level.U_U
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Lol, when ever i see this kind of retarded post it always have to be someone who is a Naruto fan and who has a Naruto avatar and also think about Naruto only.

First, Shadow Clones is only B-rank Jutsu not A-rank Jutsu so don't make **** up.



Second, it easier to learn a Jutsus from a scroll since the hands of signs are there and Naruto can easily copy them.

Strongest Uchiha show you how to do? lol, you must be sick in the head if you think Fugaku was the strongest Uchiha...he got killed by a 13 years old Itachi so don't come here with the kind of BS.

Sasuke beat Deidara,Danzo, and Naruto...where they half dead? no

Yes, i going tell you a hundred times over that Sasuke trained for the CM and i could give two **** about what your fanboy ass thinks.
actually it was multiple shadow clone technique which is A rank.

A scroll is never better than a first hand lesson.

Itachi's parents didn't put up a fight.

Deidara killed himself, Danzo was trying to conserve chakra for obito and sasuke was healed by karin.

Cs was a gift from oro. It can only be considered a tool he trained with after the timeskip.
 

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That Doesn't mean to stand around and watch and let someone else fight a battle
Oh so he stood around and didn't do anything? Lool








Now I understand itachi did most of the work, but honestly, you can't say that he didn't help.
 
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Stop talking trash.

1.) Your opinion about getting trained by elite shinobi's is false.

(1) Who trained Sasuke?
:Kakashi and Orochimaru.

(2) Who trained Naruto?
:Jiraiya, Kakashi, Yamato, Killer Bee, Iruka, Tsunade, a scroll so on and so forth.

2.) As for your statement about Sasuke's cursed mark being the superior power compared to most of his attacking arsenal:

No, it's not.

Sasuke, with three tomoe Sharingan was able to subjugate Naruto (Kyuubi)(s) (kudos to Sasuke seeing as Naruto had immense speed at that time) and had managed to counter pawn his combination of attacks to knock him out cold.

3.) Sharingan is a gift, yet, Kurama is not?

Imma just go lmfao at this.

4.) Naruto using a tailed beast power to offensively verse with other powerful characters can be considered as true power? While Sasuke tranplanting Itachi's eye ball inside his socket is considered as relying? He fights alone no support whatsoever; compared to Naruto who feeds onto Kurama's chakra and gains free intel about an enemy by the fox like the way Dwyane Wade dishes out the ball to LeBron James.

Ok. I. Am. Out. Of. Here. Good. Day.
Yeah a monster that hates Naruto and every human living is real gift yeah thanks mom for that present now everyone hates me and wants me dead ty ty
 
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