Naruto without the Kyuubi wich Ninja coud he still beat

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He'd be able to have different moves without the 9tails, remember it stopped him having the frogs generate natural chakra for him and probably would have taken his training into different directions like maybe a second element. He'd still be Hokage material, remember the 3rd and 4th had no KG and were able to come up with crazy good moves on their own.

I'd bet Jiraiya would have got Minato's special guards to teach him the FTG tech rather than teach him some of the other things he did.
 

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Yes. Of course he can!
Minato is raw as any other Shinobi, but he became the 4th Hokage. And he is Naruto's Father.
His mother is an Uzumaki. So the long life, and massive amount of chakra is on his DNA already.
He got A legendary Sannin for a Master.
He Just need to train hard.

and oh...
And he is the main Hero of the story


Plus he ate a lot of Ramen. ^_^
 

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He would still be strong, not as strong. But he would also probably be dead.
 
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It's not necessarily talking 'Shxt'. What he said IS true, The fact of the matter is, you're just overreacting :|

anyone that thinks every other character other than Naruto was simply just "given" power ups is retarded, and a fan boy. Sasuke has nothing to do with this thread. all he had to do was answer the question or leave. instead he got all butt hurt and brought someone else up. yeah i'm the one that overreacted lol sure thing fan boys you go ahead and keep riding it
 

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Um.. Some of you make good points, but sage mode without kurama? He wouldn't need sage mode cos the Akatsuki wouldn't have gone after him. Infact, he would be dead cos if u remember, the only real reason he's alive right now cos he summonded Gammabunta all that time ago before the Chunin Exams, or maybe even earlier then that cos he only had a chance against Haku on The Great Naruto Bridge cos he tapped into the 9 tails' chakra, but he would still have the rasengan/rasenshuriken. So yeah, rant over
 

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you say you don't like threads like these but you're quick to subtly talk sh*t about the other character right

Sasuke had all his abilities handed to him.
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Alas, how did you know it was Sasuke I was refering to?xd
 

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So consider Naruto doesnt have the kyuubi anymore nothing of the kyuubi no chakra nothing more
Woud you call him strong ?
Coud he be hokage ?
And wich Ninja coud he still beat ??

Yes, Naruto can still go Sage Mode and fuse with Ma and Pa toad which lets him stay in SM. Naruto can beat many strong ninjas still like the 4h Raikage (Naruto shadow clone went SM and used his sensory ability to sense the 3rd Raikage's attack and countered him). So Naruto can avade A's attacks with his sensory ability then counter with frog kata ( even if A blocks he'll still get hit by Naruto's which killed 1 of Pain's body so it will hit A since it's direct hit) or use Ma and Pa genjutsu to stop A then use his giant rasengan or rasen shuriken on him. Sasuke will lose by getting hit with frog song and a rasen shuriken. Beat Tsunade (she can't heal from the rasen shuriken :p). Plus he can focus on training to learn more wind jutsus and a 2nd element.
 
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Sasuke had all his abilities handed to him.
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Alas, how did you know it was Sasuke I was refering to?xd

sharingan was awakened during battle
ms awakened when someone really close to you is killed by you/someone else
ems is gained by taking the eyes of your brother

yeah all that was "given" without any hardships

how'd i guess? fan boys are the easiest people to read
 

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So consider Naruto doesnt have the kyuubi anymore nothing of the kyuubi no chakra nothing more
Woud you call him strong ?
Coud he be hokage ?
And wich Ninja coud he still beat ??
Naruto is still a Toad Sage,few Ninjas can cope with a Sage in battle. Ask Nagato about the power of a full Sage.
 

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Hmmm ok naruto woud be still strong
But woud he able to hold his self against edo tensei madara and obito ?
 

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I dislike threads like this. There is NO SUCH THING as a Naruto with out Kurama. It doesn't and will not exist.

And why take it away from him? It's his rightfully-earned power, he went through life-threatening training in order to gain it, unlike another certain ninja who has everything handed to him by others.


to be honest i kind of like the idea of taking kurama away from naruto, well not away but out of naruto. I think naruto would still be strong and i think with madara lurking its still a possibility, it would be cool to see kurama and naruto do the blood contract and kurama be his summon rather than jin, or since naruto is uzumaki super senju maybe he can release kurama withour dying and seal him when he needs a power up. i cant imagine kurama always being inside naruto,seriously what if naruto is getting insde hinata, how awkward would that be? with his mom it wasnt so bad because they didnt communicate but i mean him and naruto are buddies now so im jus sayin

He still has incredible speed without kurama. (proven when Naruto saved sakura from being killed by sasuke)
He'd still have sage mode.
He beat a nine tails pup with just taijutsu.
He's half of an uzumaki. Best chakra reserves and life force.
He can still spam a bunch of rasengan even without Kurama.

I'd say he'd still be strong, not AS strong but still strong.


But as stated above Naruto wouldn't exist without the Nine tails. It would ruin the entire story and it'd have to be re written. I'm just glad this isn't one of those ( Take naruto's nine tails ad Sasuke is stronger threads ) or any of the sort debates. If you take something away from a character it's basically handicapping the other and making it pointless.

to be honest i agree with your argument about handicapping charactors, but with madara still lurking and narutos uzumaki super senju blood i dont think its totally unlikely to see naruto without kurama. Actually i think it would be cool if say madara removed kurama and somehow kurama fought him off and protected naruto, and then kurama became narutos summon so as not to be narutos source of power but his actual comrad. or itd be cool if naruto could seal and release kurama at will but i like the summon idea better.


Resegan,massive chakra pool,strong life force and sage mode.


He still has them without kurama people !!!!!lol

agreed. Naruto is still boss and i think he would have sick wind techs better than danzos if he didnt have kurama on top of his sage mode and super rasangans
 

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he would have die when he faught haku which is a long time ago
 

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without kurama naruto would have a better chakra control meaning more jutsus,since he wouldn't waste his time trying to control kurama's chakra(and that's what he was doing his entire life with jiraya),he would still has SM and he would be able to fuse with toads with no problems.
he would still be a beast,but unfortunately he wouldn't keep up with the current power-houses,who got way too much power handed to them.
 

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Stop with these threads naruto with out kurama does not exist deal with it
 

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So consider Naruto doesnt have the kyuubi anymore nothing of the kyuubi no chakra nothing more
Woud you call him strong ?
Coud he be hokage ?
And wich Ninja coud he still beat ??

This is easy HELL NO, he would have been beaten and discourage. Against neji kumara saved him, against gaara kumara saved him, against sasuke maybe because he had the cursed seal. In naruto shippuden, naruto wouldn't have got to where is if not for kurama's power.
 

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This is easy HELL NO, he would have been beaten and discourage. Against neji kumara saved him, against gaara kumara saved him, against sasuke maybe because he had the cursed seal. In naruto shippuden, naruto wouldn't have got to where is if not for kurama's
Sounds like your a hater
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Same could abot every one with ha
 

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Naruto was already weaker then nearly every single villain with Kurama (Pein, Obito, Madara etc) so whats the point of taking it away it wouldn't make a difference he be even more useless since Uzuzmaki's have crap potential
 

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Naruto was already weaker then nearly every single villain with Kurama (Pein, Obito, Madara etc) so whats the point of taking it away it wouldn't make a difference he be even more useless since Uzuzmaki's have crap potential

Weaker,picture nagato without MADARA'S EYES
 

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Did Naruto use the Kyuubi to master Shadow Clones? Rasengan? Wind Nature? Or Sage Mode?...No!

Naruto alone has 4X the amount of Chakra Kakashi has. & a part of Naruto's chakra is what kept the Kyuubi at bay so if the Kyuubi wasn't there Naruto would have even more Chakra to use.

Naruto would still be a beast could that be said about Sasuke if he didn't have the Sharingan? Simple answer to that question is no but it doesn't matter because Sasuke does have the Sharingan & Naruto has the Kyuubi.
 

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Naruto would still be very strong. But Naruto wouldn't be the same, its like Thor without his Hammer, or Kakashi without his Sharingan, or Captain Yamato without his Senju DNA.
 
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