Is it hypocritical of America ....

[Ishan Hokage]

So what your saying is that if they do make the bombs and it falls into the "extremist" hands that that would be very bad for everybody ?

Ahh Auditore? I love that game
Anyways, on-topic I'll say the world needs to grow up n get over wars

 

[Ƒālconer]

So what your saying is that if they do make the bombs and it falls into the "extremist" hands that that would be very bad for everybody ?

it would be, are you kidding me. Open your eyes and stop being so offended. America is having enough domestic problems and the last thing we need is foreign attacks, not just America but the whole world. Iran can't be trusted, its a sad fact of life but its there own fault for giving themselves a bad reputation and I'm not even talking about Iranian people. I'm talking about the Iranian government, they are vicious and aggressive and they pose a threat to everyone world wide.

 

[Rayder]

Ahh Auditore? I love that game
Anyways, on-topic I'll say the world needs to grow up n get over wars

I doubt the world will ever get over wars. xd
But I hope they work together, even though there will always be mistrust and suspicion among them.

 

[King Of Sharingan]

Couldn't the victims of America's attacks say the same about America keeping weapons ? :|
Also one important thing you mentioned: "IN THE PAST"
Are you saying all of Iran was involved in 9/11 ? :

That's why Obama's working on a gun ban.
And no I'm not, I'm talking about their military.

 

[Rayder]

it would be, are you kidding me. Open your eyes and stop being so offended. America is having enough domestic problems and the last thing we need is foreign attacks, not just America but the whole world. Iran can't be trusted, its a sad fact of life but its there own fault for giving themselves a bad reputation and I'm not even talking about Iranian people. I'm talking about the Iranian government, they are vicious and aggressive and they pose a threat to everyone world wide.

I was just clarifying if that was what you meant. Obviously the world and even Iran itself would be affected if the extremists got their hands on the weapons. But the same risk goes for all the countries with nuclear. They all have their "bad apples" who could cause the same problem. It depends on what side your standing on when you say Iran can't be trusted. Do you think the people on the Iran side trust America ?

 

[Ƒālconer]

I was just clarifying if that was what you meant. Obviously the world and even Iran itself would be affected if the extremists got their hands on the weapons. But the same risk goes for all the countries with nuclear. They all have their "bad apples" who could cause the same problem. It depends on what side your standing on when you say Iran can't be trusted. Do you think the people on the Iran side trust America ?

my response to that question is social manipulation and extremist dogma. As far as that goes I won't say America doesn't manipulate its people but I would assume Iran sees us as an enemy and its there fault for provoking action

 

[Germanicus]

Let's be honest here; the U.S. is not going to utilize nuclear weapons. Ever again, anywhere short of a nuclear war, precipitated by someone else. Disarmament has been pursued since the Cold War. But how can we completely disarm if other people keep trying to manufacture the damn things? Simple answer; we cannot. Nuclear warheads are a check and balance system. (As we learned, again, from the Cold War.) As long as people have them, no one would dare to use them. The one time results were enough for the world to see that no one wants anyone to drop one of those things.


So could it be interpreted as hypocritical? Yes.
Would it be wise to get rid of them first? No.

 

[wargear]

Yes, it is.

My oldest son is a junior in college.. like many of you posting in this he's in the "young naive and stupid" years.. thats cool we all were at some point. Like you he's gonna save the planet save the whales live green and help everyone. Thats cool too! I told him when he gets to my age he'll still be trying to save... more of his own money! I know there are alot of folks here from around the world with diverse opinions... Allow me to address my fellow americans here and decide if you agree... I served in the Navy as an aircraft mech after Vietnam and have been lucky to visit many places around the world. A few years ago I went to Hawaii on vacation and visited Pearl Harbor and the Arizona memorial for the first time. I'd been to pearl several times the carriers first stop on WestPac duty but being a 19yr old all I did was chase girls and party.. my girlfriend saw that I got very emotional and asked why? My response was to ask if she knew what it was to be on a ship in the middle of nowhere and see the missles coming nowhere to go or hide.. Then I told her how you always felt the hate everywhere you went and we'd asked for it for sure but... I told her if she thought East Milwaukee was bad she had no clue India where I saw families 2-3 sometimes living in a cargo container.. kids playing in Manila stop and **** in the dirt street and keep playing.. Thailand where girls came down from the hills to earn a dowery by whoring themselves out.. the stench of Seoul and Hong Kong... I could go on but like or not we are the best greatest country on earth and our people the most generous. Everyone wants us to save their ass and throw money at them but they wouldn't piss on us to put us out if we were on fire! And you think we should let a bunch of religious nutcases have nukes? Tell ya what Hipster go stand next to the Hiroshima memorial study your history and get back to me after you visit the Arizona.. My next vacation? Standing in the surf at Omaha beach trying to imagine what it was like for a 19yr old kid from Pittsburg who never been more tha 20 mi from home before he died in the water... sent there to save a bunch of ungrateful pricks from a dictator...

 

[kourosh]

my response to that question is social manipulation and extremist dogma. As far as that goes I won't say America doesn't manipulate its people but I would assume Iran sees us as an enemy and its there fault for provoking action

i don't think so, if you knew alittle history you wouldn't say this

 

[HiraishinFTG]

Is it hypocritical of America? From an objective standpoint yes. But if you look at the political situation in Iran, the majority of the world's sensible governments believe they are too erratic, dangerous, and aggressive to be allowed nuclear capabilities. So we will risk hypocrisy for the sake of safety.

 

[Grim]

it would be, are you kidding me. Open your eyes and stop being so offended. America is having enough domestic problems and the last thing we need is foreign attacks, not just America but the whole world. Iran can't be trusted, its a sad fact of life but its there own fault for giving themselves a bad reputation and I'm not even talking about Iranian people. I'm talking about the Iranian government, they are vicious and aggressive and they pose a threat to everyone world wide.

but why Russia, China and India supports Iran? Little Ironic? Ghadafi and Hussein bouth wanted to sell oil for gold instead of U.S dollar.. now same thing is happening with Iran - China - Russia and India and it's a good thing for a world economy and sad news for U.S

 

[Olorin]

so what if it is? also its not only the us most of the world doesnt want another country in the club

a nuke in a stable democracy is very different than a nuke in Iran which is in one of the most unstable regions in the world

i'd love to ramble on and write a wall of text but i just dont have the time and its probably not worth it

 

[Ƒālconer]

i don't think so, if you knew alittle history you wouldn't say this

enlighten me

 

[Typhon]

It most certainly is, but at the same time the world doesn't need any more nukes than it already has. So if a little hypocrisy from the United States and other Western powers can keep another country in an unstable area of the world from getting nuclear weapons, so be it.

 

[SilverSlick]

my response to that question is social manipulation and extremist dogma. As far as that goes I won't say America doesn't manipulate its people but I would assume Iran sees us as an enemy and its there fault for provoking action

That last part was hilarious! "It's their fault for provoking action.". Are you serious? See this is what the TC talks about when he says America being hypocrites. Lets get this straight, Iran would not be in the position they are now had it not been for the great USA. Allow me to elaborate

During the 1950's Mohammad Mossadeq(hope I spelled that right) was elected by the Iranian people. Mainly because of his political reforms. Mohammad was widely popular amongst the people. His most famous policy was the nationalization of Iranian oil which had been primarily controlled by what is today BP. Of course Great Britain highly disapproved of this move. So MI6 with the help of the CIA staged a coup and took Mohammad from power. Who they replaced him with was a ruthless dictator known as the Shah. Of course, the U.S. and U.K. were great friends with the Shah while the Iranian people hated him.

Of course, this led to Iranians hate for the west you know since they overthrew Iran's democratically elected leader and replaced them with a ruthless dictator. Come 1979, the people of Iran decided they had had enough and staged a coup of their own. Of course the ones that took power were the Shi'a.

Anyways, America did a similar thing to Cuba. They installed a dictator(Batista I believe?) who was widely unpopular so Che Guevara and Fidel Castro overthrow the dictator and installed a government of their own. Of course our installation of a ****ING DICTATOR led to U.S. hate in Cuba.

So please, I don't want to hear any **** about Iran provoking ****. In my opinion, America is the problem, has been the problem, and will always be the problem because they keep meddling in everyone's ****. You know what country has repeatedly disregarded IAEA and UN inspections? Israel.


Edit: Not saying I'd like for Iran to get nukes. Around this time last year, 16 intelligence of the US agreed Iran wasn't trying to pursue nukes but only nuclear power. Of course things change. All I'm saying is people are blowing their program out of proportion.