What makes people say Itachi > Sasuke?

[Wik]

I just have something to add to the whole conversation about if it's reasonable to compare Sasuke to a healthy Itachi. The thing is if you are to compare current itachi with current Sasuke Itachi would be dead from the start, so you can't have this battle without an "IF" as you said. Also we have seen edo Itachi and the only difference between him and a healthy itachi would be unlimited chakra and the regenerative ability. So in fact imagining a healthy itachi is actually very easy. Edo Itachi without regeneration and the chakra pool he had when he fought Sasuke would be it if I am not mistaken.

I'd say it would be an even match since all that op does is facing them off with tactical advantage to Sasuke, if this was simulated Itachi would be the smarter mind and have that advantage even though power advantage would go to Sasuke. I'd still give the edge to Sasuke maybe but it would be a close match

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

nothing implies that he can manipulate another users flames, only his own

Amaterasu is Amatersu. Does Kishi have to spoon feed every little detail to you? It's the same flames. And since Itachi can't manipulate his, It's obvious Sasuke can.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

I just have something to add to the whole conversation about if it's reasonable to compare Sasuke to a healthy Itachi. The thing is if you are to compare current itachi with current Sasuke Itachi would be dead from the start, so you can't have this battle without an "IF" as you said. Also we have seen edo Itachi and the only difference between him and a healthy itachi would be unlimited chakra and the regenerative ability. So in fact imagining a healthy itachi is actually very easy. Edo Itachi without regeneration and the chakra pool he had when he fought Sasuke would be it if I am not mistaken.

I'd say it would be an even match since all that op does is facing them off with tactical advantage to Sasuke, if this was simulated Itachi would be the smarter mind and have that advantage even though power advantage would go to Sasuke. I'd still give the edge to Sasuke maybe but it would be a close match

Sasuke wins at the end of the day.

 

[Retsu]

Amaterasu is Amatersu. Does Kishi have to spoon feed every little detail to you? It's the same flames. And since Itachi can't manipulate his, It's obvious Sasuke can.

You're going on nothing but speculation

 

[Wik]

Sasuke wins at the end of the day.

Is this supposed to mean that you agree with me then or is it just to argue "fanboy" style?

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

You're going on nothing but speculation

I'm speaking the obvious actually.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

Is this supposed to mean that you agree with me then or is it just to argue "fanboy" style?

Anyone who's been here to witness my first post knows Imma Minato fanboy.

 

[Retsu]

lol, Itachi can stop Amaterasu as well, your argument is now invalid, Sasuke stands next to no chance now.

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[Aertes]

Did I say that? I said Sasuke can hold his distance, when Susano'o is used...

Amaterasu? Sasuke has the power to extinguish the flames. Sasuke's WAYYY more skilled at Amaterasu than Itachi. And Tsukuyomi is pointless since Sasuke already broke it...

What's crows gonna do? Lmao, Chidori senbon or Chidori sharp spear would demolish those birds.

What do you mean do you have proof Itachi can't manipulate Enton? It's called Blaze release. Only Sasuke has it. When has Itachi ever demonstrated Blaze release? Never. Lmao, I can't believe you just said such a foolish comment. Only Sasuke can extinguish the flames. Enton > Taijutsu, deal with it.

Anything else? This is quite boring.

Is it mentioned somewhere that Sasuke can manipulate and extinguish others user amaterasu and Itachi can't??I don't think so.That's your own speculation.
Don't forget that Itachi can use water clones,just one diversion from a clone an attack and that bird which is maintaining the precious distance of Sasuke is down.I never said anything about tsukuyomi I know that Sasuke can overcome this.
Don't forget that Sasuke had the cursed seal when fighting Itachi,he had more stamina,power,speed and chakra.Still Itachi played him like a fool,drained him and had enough power to seal Oro and the curse seal.And your only argument that Itachi can't use Izanami is that Sasuke won't let him because of his continuus attacks??Kabuto was attacking him too but he released Izanami pretty damn well.

 

[Retsu]

Is it mentioned somewhere that Sasuke can manipulate and extinguish others user amaterasu and Itachi can't??I don't think so.That's your own speculation.
Don't forget that Itachi can use water clones,just one diversion from a clone an attack and that bird which is maintaining the precious distance of Sasuke is down.I never said anything about tsukuyomi I know that Sasuke can overcome this.
Don't forget that Sasuke has the cursed seal when fighting Itachi,he had more stamina,power,speed and chakra.Still Itachi played him like a fool,drained him and had enough power to seal Oro and the curse seal.And your only argument that Itachi can't use Izanami is that Sasuke won't let him because of his continuus attacks??Kabuto was attacking him too but he released Izanami pretty damn well.

going by his logic, Itachi can extinguish the flames of Sasuke, which pretty much gives him no edge over Itachi...at all. Yata mirror can tank anything sasuke dishes out and sasuke has no counter for totsuka blade, I'd say check and mate.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

Nice try, but it doesn't end there.

Remember, Amaterasu is a short ranged technique. According to the Wiki, 5-10 meters. It won't fly high into the sky to take Sasuke off his crow, and Amaterasu burns as slow as hell. Actually, Sasuke escaped with body shedding technique. White Zetsu thought Itachi stopped him, the same way he thought Itachi one shotted Sasuke at the start of the fight with Tsukuyomi. But he was wrong.

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[Draphsin]

nothing implies that he can manipulate another users flames, only his own

Blaze release is the manipulation of amaterasu. Why on earth would he not be able to manipulate any and all forms of amaterasu??

EDIT: This doesnt work the other way around simply because of the toll it takes on itachi to extinguish it. He would be dead or dying before he could put out the flames

going by his logic, Itachi can extinguish the flames of Sasuke, which pretty much gives him no edge over Itachi...at all. Yata mirror can tank anything sasuke dishes out and sasuke has no counter for totsuka blade, I'd say check and mate.

LOL you dont get it do you? sasuke can last for days inside of susanoo, how long can itachi use it? your'e speaking as if itachi can constantly spam susanoo which is obviously not the case. Healthy or not, itachi only has MS and everything he uses can be countered by sasuke's susanoo/EMS/hawk summon

 

[Retsu]

Blaze release is the manipulation of amaterasu. Why on earth would he not be able to manipulate any and all forms of amaterasu??

EDIT: This doesnt work the other way around simply because of the toll it takes on itachi to extinguish it. He would be dead or dying before he could put out the flames



LOL you dont get it do you? sasuke can last for days inside of susanoo, how long can itachi use it? your'e speaking as if itachi can constantly spam susanoo which is obviously not the case. Healthy or not, itachi only has MS and everything he uses can be countered by sasuke's susanoo/EMS/hawk summon

the bold part is nothing but you pulling made up facts out your ass, no one has demonstrated anything like that, not even madara, and Itachi's not gonna drop dead after putting out a few flames

 

[Aertes]

Nice try, but it doesn't end there.

Remember, Amaterasu is a short ranged technique. According to the Wiki, 5-10 meters. It won't fly high into the sky to take Sasuke off his crow, and Amaterasu burns as slow as hell. Actually, Sasuke escaped with body shedding technique. White Zetsu thought Itachi stopped him, the same way he thought Itachi one shotted Sasuke at the start of the fight with Tsukuyomi. But he was wrong.

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Ok forget about amaterasu, you are saying that there's no technique that Itachi can use to bring down that bird??You are hilarious.
And how is Sasuke supposed to beat Itachi from a long range then??
And still,why not Izanami???Cause Kabuto was continuous attacking him but he managed to use izanami.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

Ok forget about amaterasu, you are saying that there's no technique that Itachi can use to bring down that bird??You are hilarious.
And how is Sasuke supposed to beat Itachi from a long range then??
And still,why not Izanami???Cause Kabuto was continuous attacking him but he managed to use izanami.

Itachi never got hit while he was preparing for it.

And no, I'm saying Sasuke can use the hawk when Susano'o is up, to get out of his totsuka's range. You're saying Amaterasu would work, which I just proved to be bull****. Anything else you want to debate about#?

 

[Aertes]

Itachi never got hit while he was preparing for it.

And no, I'm saying Sasuke can use the hawk when Susano'o is up, to get out of his totsuka's range. You're saying Amaterasu would work, which I just proved to be bull****. Anything else you want to debate about#?

Ffs with that freakin bird.He has so many fire and water techniques that can bring that **** down,all he needs is a diversion with a clone use one of his techniques and the bird is out of the picture.He takes the bird out and he can use Susanoo perfectly fine.
Kabuto did attack him when he was preparing for Izanami and nowhere in the manga is stated that the preparation of Izanami requires much time,it's more like an instant jutsu that has to remembers the the sensation of the caster and the opponent bodies replicate it and connect it.Itachi did all this while fighting Kabuto in SM so why can't he do it with Sasuke??
And I don't get how Sasuke will endure this fight longer than Itachi.EMS gives eternal light meaning that there's no limitation in the times you can use dojutsu techniques but it's not stated that gives you more chakra or better stamina.Sasukes eye start bleeding after using Susanoo and amaterasu once against raikage.I don't see his stamina and chakra level being higher than Itachi's.

 

[Turson]

There is no denying it: current Sasuke > alive Itachi as we know him from manga.

 

[UchihaInza]

Itachi let Sasuke win ..Uchiha Inza