[VS] Kisame Vs Minato

[Forbidden Technique]

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Kisame Vs Minato​

Location: Kisame Vs Team Gai
Distance: 40 Meters
Knowledge: Full
Restrictions: None

Let me know who wins with logical answers please.​

 

[TheTailedSage]

Kisame High diff In samehada water orb
Minato High diff on land

Fused with samehada inside the water orb FTG Isnt working unless hes already throws the kunai outside the orb, but since kisame knows about the FTG i doubt he would let Minato throw any kunai or even touch him , rasengan in the water orb could distort the water however if he send s sharks after him then there isnt much minato can do, Kisames swimming gives him the advantage really minatos speed is surpressed so anyone saying hes faster in water needs to prove it

Gaint water shark bomb jutsu absorbs charkra so the only possible counter i would give for this is TSB which requires prep time but over all i can only see Kisame winning in the water because outside of the orb Minato would have the advantage

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Kisame High diff In samehada water orb
Minato High diff on land

Fused with samehada inside the water orb FTG Isnt working unless hes already throws the kunai outside the orb, but since kisame knows about the FTG i doubt he would let Minato throw any kunai or even touch him , rasengan in the water orb could distort the water however if he send s sharks after him then there isnt much minato can do, Kisames swimming gives him the advantage really minatos speed is surpressed so anyone saying hes faster in water needs to prove it

Gaint water shark bomb jutsu absorbs charkra so the only possible counter i would give for this is TSB which requires prep time but over all i can only see Kisame winning in the water because outside of the orb Minato would have the advantage

Well if it was a fight on land, Minato would take it low diff...but when have we seen Kisame fight without some type of large water source? Never.

But I agree with you, Water Dome renders FTG as means of an offense almost useless.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Well if it was a fight on land, Minato would take it low diff...but when have we seen Kisame fight without some type of large water source? Never.

But I agree with you, Water Dome renders FTG as means of an offense almost useless.

Now i think about it yeah your right kisame isnt really that fast and The Hax FTG Rapes LOL and i agree ive never seen kisame fight without a water sorce

 

[Unorthodox]

kisame because water dome

 

[Bogard]

You didn't favour Kisame in your conditions? Minato blitz him from the start then. It's manga canon that he can't follow Naruto's speed who was considered "not on Minato's level" by Yamato

 

[TheTailedSage]

You didn't favour Kisame in your conditions? Minato blitz him from the start then. It's manga canon that he can't follow Naruto's speed who was considered "not on Minato's level" by Yamato

He is fodder without FTG he has to mark something or throw a kunai to uset if kisame uses water dome knows about it he eats him for lunch

 

[TheTailedSage]

You didn't favour Kisame in your conditions? Minato blitz him from the start then. It's manga canon that he can't follow Naruto's speed who was considered "not on Minato's level" by Yamato

He is fodder without FTG he has to mark something or throw a kunai to uset if kisame uses water dome knows about it he eats him for lunch

 

[Edo Odin]

Just a thought, can the Kunai be countered by Water techs ? After all, the seal is just made out of paper.

If not I'd give it to Minato. Due to you giving both full knowledge, and due to the 40 meter distance, he has time to spread around his Kunai at will. This'd serve as a good counter to the Great Shark Bullet, as he could teleport out of it's way, and if Kisame uses the Water Dome, Minato could summon the Frogs to help him out. I also don't see Kisame hitting Minato with anything with Minato's immense speed.

 

[Bogard]

He is fodder without FTG he has to mark something or throw a kunai to uset if kisame uses water dome knows about it he eats him for lunch

Well it's up to you to disagree with the manga

 

[Minator93]

Minato summons Gamabunta and Gamaken. After that its pretty much a stomp U_U

 

[Cpt Long Schlong]

Well it's up to you to disagree with the manga

Although I agree with you, that's nothing you can even say with your credibility. You disagree with manga proof on every scene depicting Minato not to be a God-King.

Minato summons Gamabunta and Gamaken. After that its pretty much a stomp U_U

Are you for real?

 

[TheTailedSage]

Well it's up to you to disagree with the manga

I'm not disagreeing with the manga I'm disagreeing with you . Show me a scan where it says minato is just as fast w/o flying thunder god, since kisame knows about this he will be cautious about this

 

[silmarill]

cant he just absorb water dome with his space time barrier ****? like he did with the tbb on hokage statues, the seals covered a fkn mountain areawise...

 

[silmarill]

I'm not disagreeing with the manga I'm disagreeing with you . Show me a scan where it says minato is just as fast w/o flying thunder god, since kisame knows about this he will be cautious about this

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Here u see Kakashi compared Naruto's speed with Minato's.
he thought his sensei was blitzing around. He clearly didnt compare it with ftg cause there is no speed or trace nor a movement in ftg.

Like it or not , Minato is 2nd fastest character with base speed only after Naruto.

 

[Bogard]

I'm not disagreeing with the manga I'm disagreeing with you . Show me a scan where it says minato is just as fast w/o flying thunder god, since kisame knows about this he will be cautious about this

You are the one who claim he is fodder without FTG, so your the one who should prove your claim. Anyway, i'm not sure if even if i show you the mangapage, you will consider it judging by your attitude, but i will still post it:

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Again, manga disagrees with you, but it's up to you to disagree with the manga

 

[Minator93]

Although I agree with you, that's nothing you can even say with your credibility. You disagree with manga proof on every scene depicting Minato not to be a God-King.



Are you for real?

There's no way Kisame is beating Gamabunta U_U, he has water element+liquid bullets+his oil allows to use fire style with paper bomb combo! He took on Shukaku and held full powered Kurama!

Gama can handle Samehada attacks which pretty much owned Asuma U_U

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[TheTailedSage]

You are the one who claim he is fodder without FTG, so your the one who should prove your claim. Anyway, i'm not sure if even if i show you the mangapage, you will consider it judging by your attitude, but i will still post it:

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Again, manga disagrees with you, but it's up to you to disagree with the manga

This only half proves your point, when i say fodder i mean in this fight, this speed isnt helping him, water done his sprred is surpressed and kisame has the upper hand

Tell me im wrong about water dome, even if he is ffast w/o ftg it doesnt compare to when he does have it

Here u see Kakashi compared Naruto's speed with Minato's.
he thought his sensei was blitzing around. He clearly didnt compare it with ftg cause there is no speed or trace nor a movement in ftg.

Like it or not , Minato is 2nd fastest character with base speed only after Naruto.

Why would he compare it to FTG, its an evvasive tech as well as offensive, he is teleporting whichrequires you to move in some way shape or form, Naruto was able to dodge ays fastest punch with raw speed where as minato HAD to use FTG deal with it

 

[Negative Knight]

Kisame, High-diff.

Bogard will undoubtedly pick me up on this. I'm all for a debate, despite supporting the more difficult side xd.

 

[Edo Odin]

Kisame, High-diff.

Bogard will undoubtedly pick me up on this. I'm all for a debate, despite supporting the more difficult side xd.

But, he can't really handle the toad summons, nor can he get a hit off on Minato :shrug: