strong world canon?

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is the one piece movie strong world canon? because if a battle between the legendary shiki (who probably had haki) and pre timeskip luffy were to happen luffy would get murdered so its hard to believe that its canon, because if it was canon then luffy's bounty would have been higher than law's is now.

shiki fought sengukou and sengukou ****s on luffy any day, also it took both garp and sengukou to beat shiki and half of marineford was destroyed, pre and post tmeskip luffy would not have been able to do that so IMO strong world isn't canon.

shiki >= silvers rayleigh and i doubt pre timeskip or even post timeskip luffy are at that level.
 
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Strong world is Canon Oda confirmed it and in the time line it takes place between Thriller bark arc and Sabaody Archipelago arc

Oda also over saw the making of the movie and wrote the script for it
 

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Strong world is Canon Oda confirmed it and in the time line it takes place between Thriller bark arc and Sabaody Archipelago arc

Oda also over saw the making of the movie and wrote the script for it
so you honestly believe that pre timeskip luffy even had small chance of beating shiki? shiki's power is around yonko, garp, and sengoku level so luffy beating one of the great pirates IS NOT CANON. assuming the movie is canon, luffy beating shiki is still definitely not canon.
 

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so you honestly believe that pre timeskip luffy even had small chance of beating shiki? shiki's power is around yonko, garp, and sengoku level so luffy beating one of the great pirates IS NOT CANON. assuming the movie is canon, luffy beating shiki is still definitely not canon.
have you even seen the movie?
 

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yes i have seen it but at shiki's level his haki should have easily been able to block luffy's gigant thor or at least he should have been fast enough to dodge it seeing as he is a legendary pirate who most likely had very powerful sensory and armament haki. an attack like that wouldn't even have beaten akainu's haki. it was impressive and shiki was suprised yes, BUT someone like shiki should have been able block that attack with haki otherwise he wouldn't be a legendary pirate, instead he used a few rocks to block the attack with one big one protecting him (which wasn't enough obviously).

anyway my point is if based of what we know about haki someone without haki like pre timeskip luffy even with a lightning imbuned giant attack should not have been able to beat shiki. this movie basically makes it look like without his devil fruit shiki is useless but that cant be true for a legendary pirate. someone like shiki who can control gravity around himself and is legendary should have been able to dodge gigant thor.
 

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yes i have seen it but at shiki's level his haki should have easily been able to block luffy's gigant thor or at least he should have been fast enough to dodge it seeing as he is a legendary pirate who most likely had very powerful sensory and armament haki. an attack like that wouldn't even have beaten akainu's haki. it was impressive and shiki was suprised yes, BUT someone like shiki should have been able block that attack with haki otherwise he wouldn't be a legendary pirate, instead he used a few rocks to block the attack with one big one protecting him (which wasn't enough obviously).

anyway my point is if based of what we know about haki someone without haki like pre timeskip luffy even with a lightning imbuned giant attack should not have been able to beat shiki. this movie basically makes it look like without his devil fruit shiki is useless but that cant be true for a legendary pirate. someone like shiki who can control gravity around himself and is legendary should have been able to dodge gigant thor.
pre timeskip luffy had haki and you have to remember that was a Shiki from 20 years after his fight with Sengoku and he was missing his legs so he wasn't at 100% but regardless the movie is considered canon even though it's far fetch that luffy beat him
 

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pre timeskip luffy had haki and you have to remember that was a Shiki from 20 years after his fight with Sengoku and he was missing his legs so he wasn't at 100% but regardless the movie is considered canon even though it's far fetch that luffy beat him
okay so its canon but if luffy were to fight shiki in the manga he'd get his ass kicked is that correct?
 

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also in the movie luffy wasn't trained in haki by rayleigh yet so i don't see how the kid who couldn't even beat smoker (even at that time since he had no haki) could lose to shiki

shiki>akainu>aokiji>kizaru>luffy even twenty years later cause he's just that awesome. lol just realized im a shiki fanboy :D
 

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even if it happened in the Manga Luffy would have one the final fight i notice with one piece Luffy looses the first and maybe second fight before actually winning and he still had conquerors king haki just no control over it
 

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i think shiki lost mainly because haki hadn't really been introduced into the storyline and people knew very little about it so oda couldn't give shiki haki (which wasn't fair)

but seriously without the plot interfering based on what we know do you think luffy can beat shiki? IMO no but i want to get your opinion as well.
 

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and yeah your right he had emeperors haki but i still cant believe the kid who was being manhandled by smoker in the war lost to shiki lol :)

thats like saying smoker>shiki
 

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i think shiki lost mainly because haki hadn't really been introduced into the storyline and people knew very little about it so oda couldn't give shiki haki (which wasn't fair)

but seriously without the plot interfering based on what we know do you think luffy can beat shiki? IMO no but i want to get your opinion as well.
not at first but like i said Luffy usually looses the first fight then comes back to win so i say Luffy would still take it
 
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