FearxDeath
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This is going to be my 2nd thread ever so bare with me on this one.
The point of this thread is to talk about whether or not Hanzo of the Salamander should be considered as one of the Top 10 Ninja in the world as I feel people these days dont give his power the respect it deserves, I realize that asking for Top 5 was a little too greedy on my part.
First off I want to say that if anything I am a Hanzo fanboy, I think it is bad**s that he has the dark vader mask to prevent him from BREATHING POISEN!!! that will kill the people around him, this excitement was only further built up by hearing that he was the LEADER of the Village hidden in the Rain. Then he defeated Jariaya, Tsunade and Orochimaru afterwards giving them the nickname the Legendary Sannin of Konoha. To be able to take on Tsunade, Oro and Jar is quite impressive but to beat them is unheard off. Alot of people claim that this happened while the sannin werent in THERE prime and thus if they were in there prime they would have dealt with hanzo accordingly. But here is a scan that shows that even at his prime jariaya was shocked to hear that hanzo was beaten by 1 man, pain.
Also keep in mind that with the Edo Tensie jutsu he was the only person we have seen in the series with will power so strong as to kept Kabuto from taking back control of him allowing him to be sealed. Also he went against kabuto's command, remember that even when the edo tensie have there personallities they still have to obey kabutos command, like how the revived kages couldnt stop fighting because that would be against kabutos commands but they could help the others out by telling them how to defeat them. Hanzo on the other hand openly defied kabuto's orders by ceasing to attack and then killing himself by stabbing himself and then keeping control of his body long enough for mifunes team to seal him, as a matter of fact one wonders whether or not he would have even been defeated if he had not allowed himself to be beaten.
Some people bring up the fact that Chiyo said he fought with hanzo several times, and yet she is still alive. Thus that would mean that she in her prime was as strong as hanzo as well. I find that to be a huge leap, remember if you asked Tsunade, Oro or Jar if they fought with Hanzo they would say they did as well, which they did. But it was 3v1 in there case, Mifune would say he did as well, and yet he is still alive? I have no problem believing that she either 1) Fought against Hanzo with a team of other ninja or 2) Lost to hanzo several times, barely surviving everytime.
The only reason he died was because he was attacked by all 6 paths of pain, I mean come on pain took on the entire village of konoha and won, except when nardo stepped in with his OP sage mode and tailed beast cloak. Not to mention that when he was attacked by pain he was an old man, slower, weaker, less chakra reserve and less stamina, edo tensie revives you as the same age you were when you died, Hanzo was an old man when he was revived, probably not as old as hiruzen but very close. And remember that Hiruzen in his prime was as strong as hashirama but as an old man he was considerably weaker. The same can be said for Hanzo.
Lastly Lets not forget that taijutsu is Hanzo's specialty. He was strong enough to outdue Mifune when they were younger, the fact that he wields his blade as well shows that he is extreely good with it.
I think with that we have some good reason to believe that Hanzo of the Salamander *In His Prime* should easily be in the Top 10 of the most powerful ninja of all time.
Let me go over a few people that some people chunk up as being part of the 10 top
Kabuto
This is the best choice by far and is one of the few people I can say Hanzo would have a hard time with, especially with sage mode. But I would ask people not to overestimate SM Kabuto, remember that during his fight with the uchiha brothers they could not simply kill him, they instead had to capture him, which is alot more difficult. The fact that they actually managed to do this is the best proof I have for not putting SMK in the Top 10.
Obito
Nobito is pretty overrated if you ask me (Heck if you throw hashirama cells into just about anyone these days they turn into a godlike ninja, remember this guy is still just a gennin with no real training), Nobito doesnt really have anything, the guy never fights and when he does he loses. The only thing he has going for him is the OP MS ability which wont work against Hanzo because once he gets close the poisen will own him.
Nagato
Pain vs Old Hanzo, we already know pain wins, but Pain vs Hanzo in his Prime ... idk. Lets look at this Jiraiya took out 3 pain paths, seeing that he is just 1/3 the power of all 3 sannin then that would mean that together all 3 sannin would be able to beat 9 paths of pain. Hanzo in his prime beat all 3 sannin, there for Hanzo in his prime beats 9+ paths of pain. But ofcourse you can argue the sannin werent at there strongest when they faced hanzo, so if we say they were half as strong as they were when they faced him then at the time they faced him they would have been able to beat 4.5 paths of pain. Which puts hanzo as being strong than 4.5 Paths of pain, which is close enough to 6 for me to say that he could take on 6 paths of pain. Remember that they wont be able to get close to him, pain cant absorb the chakra in poisen so that guys a dud, and the genjutsu pain cant get close enough to use it on hanzo. Hanzo's salamander beats the pains summoning, Duke nukem pain's rock and falcon punch pain are the only 2 that I see actually being able to land any damage to Hanzo, which arent good odds.
Naruto
Naruto is strong but he still has some ways to go as far as refining his technique. I mean, if you give any ninja the chakra pool of the nine tails they would be considered one of the strongest ninja in history. And I have yet to see naruto display any skill as far as technique goes, the guy only know a handfull of jutsu and his taijutsu is laughable, outside of SM. But ofcourse he does have SM and he does have a chakra pool the size of the 9 tails. And with that he could probably just wear Hanzo down with rasenshurikens so meh, op Main character is OP.
Hashirama
Another good match up, finally a worthy opponent. Hanzo will probably lose, but Hashirama is the strongest ninja ever.
Madara This is no Edo Madara as Edo Madara is too OP
Another good match up, Its hard to believe that Susano protects the person inside from air because that would mean that staying inside susano for too long leads to suffocating. There for Hanzo's poisen < Susano.
The point of this thread is to talk about whether or not Hanzo of the Salamander should be considered as one of the Top 10 Ninja in the world as I feel people these days dont give his power the respect it deserves, I realize that asking for Top 5 was a little too greedy on my part.
First off I want to say that if anything I am a Hanzo fanboy, I think it is bad**s that he has the dark vader mask to prevent him from BREATHING POISEN!!! that will kill the people around him, this excitement was only further built up by hearing that he was the LEADER of the Village hidden in the Rain. Then he defeated Jariaya, Tsunade and Orochimaru afterwards giving them the nickname the Legendary Sannin of Konoha. To be able to take on Tsunade, Oro and Jar is quite impressive but to beat them is unheard off. Alot of people claim that this happened while the sannin werent in THERE prime and thus if they were in there prime they would have dealt with hanzo accordingly. But here is a scan that shows that even at his prime jariaya was shocked to hear that hanzo was beaten by 1 man, pain.
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Also keep in mind that with the Edo Tensie jutsu he was the only person we have seen in the series with will power so strong as to kept Kabuto from taking back control of him allowing him to be sealed. Also he went against kabuto's command, remember that even when the edo tensie have there personallities they still have to obey kabutos command, like how the revived kages couldnt stop fighting because that would be against kabutos commands but they could help the others out by telling them how to defeat them. Hanzo on the other hand openly defied kabuto's orders by ceasing to attack and then killing himself by stabbing himself and then keeping control of his body long enough for mifunes team to seal him, as a matter of fact one wonders whether or not he would have even been defeated if he had not allowed himself to be beaten.
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Some people bring up the fact that Chiyo said he fought with hanzo several times, and yet she is still alive. Thus that would mean that she in her prime was as strong as hanzo as well. I find that to be a huge leap, remember if you asked Tsunade, Oro or Jar if they fought with Hanzo they would say they did as well, which they did. But it was 3v1 in there case, Mifune would say he did as well, and yet he is still alive? I have no problem believing that she either 1) Fought against Hanzo with a team of other ninja or 2) Lost to hanzo several times, barely surviving everytime.
The only reason he died was because he was attacked by all 6 paths of pain, I mean come on pain took on the entire village of konoha and won, except when nardo stepped in with his OP sage mode and tailed beast cloak. Not to mention that when he was attacked by pain he was an old man, slower, weaker, less chakra reserve and less stamina, edo tensie revives you as the same age you were when you died, Hanzo was an old man when he was revived, probably not as old as hiruzen but very close. And remember that Hiruzen in his prime was as strong as hashirama but as an old man he was considerably weaker. The same can be said for Hanzo.
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Lastly Lets not forget that taijutsu is Hanzo's specialty. He was strong enough to outdue Mifune when they were younger, the fact that he wields his blade as well shows that he is extreely good with it.
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I think with that we have some good reason to believe that Hanzo of the Salamander *In His Prime* should easily be in the Top 10 of the most powerful ninja of all time.
Let me go over a few people that some people chunk up as being part of the 10 top
Kabuto
This is the best choice by far and is one of the few people I can say Hanzo would have a hard time with, especially with sage mode. But I would ask people not to overestimate SM Kabuto, remember that during his fight with the uchiha brothers they could not simply kill him, they instead had to capture him, which is alot more difficult. The fact that they actually managed to do this is the best proof I have for not putting SMK in the Top 10.
Obito
Nobito is pretty overrated if you ask me (Heck if you throw hashirama cells into just about anyone these days they turn into a godlike ninja, remember this guy is still just a gennin with no real training), Nobito doesnt really have anything, the guy never fights and when he does he loses. The only thing he has going for him is the OP MS ability which wont work against Hanzo because once he gets close the poisen will own him.
Nagato
Pain vs Old Hanzo, we already know pain wins, but Pain vs Hanzo in his Prime ... idk. Lets look at this Jiraiya took out 3 pain paths, seeing that he is just 1/3 the power of all 3 sannin then that would mean that together all 3 sannin would be able to beat 9 paths of pain. Hanzo in his prime beat all 3 sannin, there for Hanzo in his prime beats 9+ paths of pain. But ofcourse you can argue the sannin werent at there strongest when they faced hanzo, so if we say they were half as strong as they were when they faced him then at the time they faced him they would have been able to beat 4.5 paths of pain. Which puts hanzo as being strong than 4.5 Paths of pain, which is close enough to 6 for me to say that he could take on 6 paths of pain. Remember that they wont be able to get close to him, pain cant absorb the chakra in poisen so that guys a dud, and the genjutsu pain cant get close enough to use it on hanzo. Hanzo's salamander beats the pains summoning, Duke nukem pain's rock and falcon punch pain are the only 2 that I see actually being able to land any damage to Hanzo, which arent good odds.
Naruto
Naruto is strong but he still has some ways to go as far as refining his technique. I mean, if you give any ninja the chakra pool of the nine tails they would be considered one of the strongest ninja in history. And I have yet to see naruto display any skill as far as technique goes, the guy only know a handfull of jutsu and his taijutsu is laughable, outside of SM. But ofcourse he does have SM and he does have a chakra pool the size of the 9 tails. And with that he could probably just wear Hanzo down with rasenshurikens so meh, op Main character is OP.
Hashirama
Another good match up, finally a worthy opponent. Hanzo will probably lose, but Hashirama is the strongest ninja ever.
Madara This is no Edo Madara as Edo Madara is too OP
Another good match up, Its hard to believe that Susano protects the person inside from air because that would mean that staying inside susano for too long leads to suffocating. There for Hanzo's poisen < Susano.
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