Can someone explain this to me? (Hiruzen thread ;) )

[Kages]

I wanted to make this thread for quite a while, and next week I will make one a billion times bigger. xd So why do people doubt Kishi's words in the databook when he clearly stated Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage in the first and second databooks btw? I truly don't get it, no one ever said anything about Hashirama being the strongest Hokage. Who I'm your opinion is the stronger Hokage or strongest of all five? And this isn't just about who's strongest, I also want someone to clear things up about why they deny Kishi's words praising Hiruzen as the strongest. Thanks for replying and voting

 

[Bogard]

Simply because it was never said in the manga

 

[Kages]

Simply because it was never said in the manga

The databooks were written by Kishi

 

[Ciao]

I do not believe you will find an answer that will change your mind since you are obviously a fan of the 3rd.

 

[Holy Cross]

My list.

1: Hashirama

2: Hiruzen

3: Minato

4: Tobirama

5: Tsunade

 

[Kages]

I do not believe you will find an answer that will change your mind since you are obviously a fan of the 3rd.

Yes if there is a manga panel or databook that says Hashirama is stronger

How can you ride a man with erectile dysfunction so much?

.. Gtfo reported

 

[Bogard]

The databooks were written by Kishi

Kishi needs to sell, so he can say anything in those kind of books. xd A valid proof must come from the manga, which is always the most reliable source for a lector. Not everyone even knows what databook is. What is funny is not even that it was never said in the manga, but even his name is only rarely mentioned in part2 concerning power levels. Funny for someone who is supposed to be the strongest hokage

 

[Zlad]

Not going to vote. Kishi have clearly stated that Hiruzen is the strongest, but now he is taking Hashirama more up and forgetting all about Hiruzen. This is kishi's foult

 

[Kages]

Kishi needs to sell, so he can say anything in those kind of books. xd A valid proof must come from the manga, which is always the most reliable source for a lector. Not everyone even knows what databook is. What is funny is not even that it was never said in the manga, but even his name is only rarely mentioned in part2 concerning power levels. Funny for someone who is supposed to be the strongest hokage

hiruzen was mentioned by Oro, Danzo, Obito, Sasuke, Itachi?, Jiraiya, and many others in Lart 2. Doesn't prove a single thing otherwise

 

[Obito Uchiha123]

Maybe hashi

 

[OcularProwess]

Not going to vote. Kishi have clearly stated that Hiruzen is the strongest, but now he is taking Hashirama more up and forgetting all about Hiruzen. This is kishi's foult

you should learn to spell before you point the blame at an author

 

[Kages]

How can you ride a man with erectile dysfunction so much?

OT: Minato.

Lol, u mad?

My sig says it all

 

[TaBaYo]

Where can I find this databook btw?
Hiruzen is strong as said by Iruka, Orochimaru and Kabuto. But I think as at the time they said it, they viewed him as the strongest.
IMO Minato would have surpassed him if he leaved longer and Hiruzen respected him for that.
Although he couldnt, so still for now and for what is stated in the manga so far, Hiruzen is the strongest as said by Iruka and Orochimaru.
And Hashirama is the strongest as said by Madara.
Minato is not strongest but most genius as said by Jiraiya

 

[Joon]

Um. The tittle of Hokage? -Shrugs.

 

[Zlad]

you should learn to spell before you point the blame at an author

Why, it's not my main language. You understood what I said, so there is no problem really

 

[b7718]

Do you honestly believe Hiruzen was pulling off moves comparable to Madara and Hashi? Cause I never saw one or even read about one.

I've heard Iruka tell his young students that he's the strongest Hokage around, but that's comparable to a mother telling her child that his father is the toughest of all dads. - It's an exaggeration to make the child feel safe and secure because "he's" there to protect them.

 

[FizzyDrink]

I wanted to make this thread for quite a while, and next week I will make one a billion times bigger. xd So why do people doubt Kishi's words in the databook when he clearly stated Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage in the first and second databooks btw? I truly don't get it, no one ever said anything about Hashirama being the strongest Hokage. Who I'm your opinion is the stronger Hokage or strongest of all five? And this isn't just about who's strongest, I also want someone to clear things up about why they deny Kishi's words praising Hiruzen as the strongest. Thanks for replying and voting

HE NEVER DIRECTLY STATES THAT HIRUZEN WAS THE STRONGEST HOKAGE. Jeezz. I have seen every single example, and they're all indirectly stated as opinions of fictional characters, not facts said by Kishi himself. So none of that can be taken as any sort of proof. In the databooks it is not written "Hiruzen is the greatest hokage" it's written along the lines of "Hiruzen was respected as the greatest hokage" or "Hiruzen was called the greatest hokage". Nothing that we can take as any total proof.

 

[KamuiShiryu]

well it has been said by kishi in his databooks hiruzen > other hokages

it was said by kabuto that hiruzen > kages of his era if i remember

and what people dont understand it was said by iruka and hiruzen himself that he is the strongest hokage

that is why i think hiruzen is the strongest.... just cus he isn't relative right now doesn't change a fact lets say kishi starts a new arc and stops talking about the 1st does and focus' on tobirama does that mean tobirama is now the strongest?

 

[Dubbuoo]

it's a simple answer as to why one would deny kishi's words...

little feats to back up claims...

but by hiruzne fanboy logic...

hiruzen>= the ol' sage

EDIT:

why do you think being forced to suicide is winning?

 

[somniferous]

Wut? Why does Tsunade have 4 votes xd ?

I guess technically she is the "Strongest" physically.