Obito's weakness(Only Plot)

[synkross]

well, i made a thread explaining Obito's abilities but ppl just keep on underestimating it....
After analysing his abilities i've come to the conclusion that his only weakness can be plot nothing more.
in this thread i will clarify some misconceptions.

1st of, Kishi just gave obito the most OP ability and the way it was explained makes it unstopable so now it is a problem to deal with it.

I will start with the most famous fight.

Obito vs Minato:

we have all seen this fight so i will directly come to the concluding moment, the famous scene

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Now here all obito needed to do was keep his hand in real dimension to wrap while keeping the rest of his body in other dimension.
Clarifying One big misconception
Obito does not need to soldify his entire body to attack, he can just solidify the parts of his body(Hands, weapons etc)
so he can wrap even in ghost mode by just bringing his hand in real dimension and you can not tell by just looking, which of his body parts are in real world and which are phased
This ability is unstopable.

so it was plot that saved Minato.

Now,
Obito vs Naruto:
Now, lets see another seen where he was trolled by kishi again

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again he could've wraped naruto and avoided guy's kick at the same time.
and countless other times during his fight his ability has been compromised.

Now, kishi tried to nerf this ability by putting a time limit but then again how does the limit work or effect Obito?
and how the hell can anyone even know about this limit?!? again kishi trolls Obito

2nd misconception

Obito Out smarted:
seriously,planning world domination and achieving his goal by controlling the most evil motherf**kers in the entire narutoverse(Akatsuki) at the age of 14-15 isn't smart then i don't know what smart is.....long term planning requires the most brillient mind and this feat itself is legendary but again ppl assume that he could be out smarted by itachi in a fight or something ....his intelligence is on par or greater than Shikamaru/Itachi/Shikaku

and about the surprise amatrasu attack from Itachi on Obito...honestly it's like Iruka coming up with Biju bomb in your face.
ok i'm done for now..

 

[Kages]

Very nice

 

[jaykuhz]

yeah lol

 

[Minator93]

He wanted to absorb Minato and not only hold him or punch him! And in order to absorb him Tobi needs to be completely solid and that's what happened there nothing else.

He can't wrap in ghost mode because he'll need his Kamui eye in the real world and that's why he At least needs his head in the real world. But kishi has already clarified that he needs to be completely solid if he has to wrap anyone.

Fight against Minato, Torune and Fu, Konan and the pic you've posted!

 

[lol99]

obito has to make a conscious effort to use kamui whether partial or whole, the reason he got roflstomped was because he couldn't react in time, ftg is that fast
also obito cant warp naruto and avoid guy's attack at the same time, he has to be fully present in one dimension

Although you are right when you say obito cant be outsmarted, fans come up with "intelligence" argument when they have nothing else

 

[synkross]

obito has to make a conscious effort to use kamui whether partial or whole, the reason he got roflstomped was because he couldn't react in time, ftg is that fast
also obito cant warp naruto and avoid guy's attack at the same time, he has to be fully present in one dimension

again, misconception

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Here, Obito wraped sasuke and phased himself at the same time

 

[synkross]

He wanted to absorb Minato and not only hold him or punch him! And in order to absorb him Tobi needs to be completely solid and that's what happened there nothing else.

He can't wrap in ghost mode because he'll need his Kamui eye in the real world and that's why he At least needs his head in the real world. But kishi has already clarified that he needs to be completely solid if he has to wrap anyone.

Fight against Minato, Torune and Fu, Konan and the pic you've posted!

Absorbing just needs a touch

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and this is why i'm saying Obito's loss to Minato was plot...if he was careful enough he should've kept only his hand in real dimension

 

[Champ]

Pretty good, but Minato fans are gonna attack you

 

[synkross]

Pretty good, but Minato fans are gonna attack you

i'm also a minato fan, all i'm saying is that Obito's Op ability has been compromised many times in his fights just for plot

 

[Bogard]

Obito simply didn't expected Minato to FTG behind him. I don't see why Obito will prefer stay intangible all the time if he suspects nothing

 

[synkross]

Obito simply didn't expected Minato to FTG behind him. I don't see why Obito will prefer stay intangible all the time if he suspects nothing

lolz,suspect nothing?.....he was facing one of the most fastest and deadliest opponents,and we know Obito is always very careful but well it....

there is honestly no answer to Plot-no-jutsu

 

[Lilvic92]

Agreed, Obito is current most powerful shinobi only behind Edo Madara.

 

[lol99]

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again, misconception

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Here, Obito wraped sasuke and phased himself at the same time

not sure what you mean but thats not warping, this is what i call 'warping'

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complete transfer to kamui dimension

this is what i call 'phasing'

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he sends a part of his body when something is about to hit him and brings it back when the attack stops overlapping with his body

he was trying to warp (completely send minato) to kamui dimension

he can temporarily send (phase) any object that he is touching along with himself and this is what he did with sasuke, he sends his clothes along with himself doesn't he

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konan here explains

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absorb here means the same as 'warp' and slip means 'phase'

 

[synkross]

not sure what you mean but thats not warping, this is what i call 'warping'

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complete transfer to kamui dimension

this is what i call 'phasing'

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he sends a part of his body when something is about to hit him and brings it back when the attack stops overlapping with his body

he was trying to warp (completely send minato) to kamui dimension

he can temporarily send (phase) any object that he is touching along with himself and this is what he did with sasuke, he sends his clothes along with himself doesn't he

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konan here explains

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absorb here means the same as 'warp' and slip means 'phase'

Honestly, this is what i thought but after kakashi's explanation....

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so his phasing and wraping are the same jutsu.

Now about the Konan's explanation....she was talking about Obito's teleportation ability which requires his entire body to be solid

 

[lol99]

Honestly, this is what i thought but after kakashi's explanation....

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so his phasing and wraping are the same jutsu.

Now about the Konan's explanation....she was talking about Obito's teleportation ability which requires his entire body to be solid

yes it is the same ability its just that when he uses kamui on his body parts i call it phasing and when he uses it to teleport or to send others it becomes warping, the same ability used in two different way

she was also talking about 'absorbing' someone or something in the page i posted, anyways i dont remember anytime he has warped anyone or anything while some part of his body is in the kamui dimension at the same time. And it makes sense cause it is the same ability so he cant use it on his body and something else at the same time

 

[synkross]

yes it is the same ability its just that when he uses kamui on his body parts i call it phasing and when he uses it to teleport or to send others it becomes warping, the same ability used in two different way

she was also talking about 'absorbing' someone or something in the page i posted, anyways i dont remember anytime he has warped anyone or anything while some part of his body is in the kamui dimension at the same time. And it makes sense cause it is the same ability so he cant use it on his body and something else at the same time

In the scan where Obito wraped himself and sasuke at the same time is the proof....lets analyse that scene shall we..
1st off, raikage is fast as hell so what is it that Obito did? so he had to phase himself and sasuke to other dimension simultaneously he was warping sasuke's body while part of his body was in other dimension.

you said, phasing is something that temporarily goes to kamui dimension but that thing can be left there in that dimension and not brought back. so phasing is actually faster than absorbing cuz it absorbs and returns back.

 

[Tec]

You know nothing John Snow.

Obito needs to be completely solid to absorb, which was his intention with Minato and Naruto. So the fact he had to make him self intangible at the moment Guy and Kakashi came in was essential. The case with Minato was, he wasn't 100% aware of just how fast Minato was, he even states this after he is attacked by Minato. This is again confirmed as Minato lunges towards Tobi / Obito and releases his control on the 9 Tails as Obito is talking.... before going off on a rant about plot holes. Make sure you have been following the plot in the first place. Thanks.

 

[NagazuDead]

So true...
Kishi made this sharingan ability so op...
and then tried to nerf it
and know trolls..