Naruto SM >> Sasuke MS

[November]

may i m wrng...but guys its always that good is always better than bad force...other wise the whole wrld in in deep shit...so naruto >saskue

i know. i like naruto too
if the good always win the bad, the story is not interesting.
sometimes the good wins and sometimes the bad wins
the most important is who deserve to win in the end

 

[Nicksterz]

Naruto dissagrees with you,

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Invalid. Kishi pulled a rabbit out of his ass with that one considering Naruto hasn't even fought Sasuke yet in part 2 in an actual battle so how Naruto would "just know" is bs.

 

[insid3rkil3r]

Lol how convenient there seem to be a reason then for everything but the moment your precious fanboy gets praised its without a doubt the truth.
how biased

lol proove me wrong... Naruto said he couldnt defeat Sasuke.... if it that was only to protect Sasuke.... he wouldnt have said to himself that he needed Kyuubi's power in order to be able to defeat him.

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haters gotta hate

 

[insid3rkil3r]

Invalid. Kishi pulled a rabbit out of his ass with that one considering Naruto hasn't even fought Sasuke yet in part 2 in an actual battle so how Naruto would "just know" is bs.

Just like how they know each other's thought when their fist touch?

Thats how it is...

 

[November]

Madara can see the diff with his ems between real clones or not
Numerous times in the manga Sasuke was unable to see diff between clones, dont make me go search up the pages.

-When sasuke fighted naruto, sasuke didn't master sharingan to that level
-When sasuke fighted bee, bee used special clone to trick sasuke (it's the clone that mix with Hahibe's tentacle. i think even madara couldn't see through it)
EDIT: when sasuke was using amaterasu at the first time, his eyes hurted and got weaken ;furthermore, he had to save karin (no time to watch bee)

 

[silmarill]

lol proove me wrong... Naruto said he couldnt defeat Sasuke.... if it that was only to protect Sasuke.... he wouldnt have said to himself that he needed Kyuubi's power in order to be able to defeat him.

The fact that hes KEEPING THIS to himself is only pointing the obvious even more.


haters gotta hate

So when Itachi states something about Jirayia its just a lie to you.

But when Naruto in some miraculous way suddenly becomes a telepath and can read Sasuke's thoughts and because of that concludes he cant beat Sasuke its immediately the truth?

Talk about taking the benefit of the moment for fav characters :|

Im not a hater.

 

[silmarill]

lol proove me wrong... Naruto said he couldnt defeat Sasuke.... if it that was only to protect Sasuke.... he wouldnt have said to himself that he needed Kyuubi's power in order to be able to defeat him.

The fact that hes KEEPING THIS to himself is only pointing the obvious even more.


haters gotta hate

So when Itachi states something about Jirayia its just a lie to you.

But when Naruto in some miraculous way suddenly becomes a telepath and can read Sasuke's thoughts and because of that concludes he cant beat Sasuke its immediately the truth?

Talk about taking the benefit of the moment for fav characters :|

Im not a hater.

 

[Nicksterz]

So when Itachi states something about Jirayia its just a lie to you.

But when Naruto in some miraculous way suddenly becomes a telepath and can read Sasuke's thoughts and because of that concludes he cant beat Sasuke its immediately the truth?

Talk about taking the benefit of the moment for fav characters :|

Im not a hater.

Don't you just adore these sasuke *male genitalia* riders? ^_^
Edit: Uchiha* as apposed to just sasuke.

 

[insid3rkil3r]

So when Itachi states something about Jirayia its just a lie to you.

But when Naruto in some miraculous way suddenly becomes a telepath and can read Sasuke's thoughts and because of that concludes he cant beat Sasuke its immediately the truth?

Talk about taking the benefit of the moment for fav characters :|

Im not a hater.

Believing Itachi was lying makes complete sense.

For starters..., most polls and discussion suggest that the majority of people believe that Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya.

Second, if Itachi alone beating Jiraiya is what makes the most sense.... Itachi and Kisame vs Jiraiya should be obvious.

Third.... Kisame even suggest not once but twice that Itachi should have been able to take on Jiraiya by himself... and couldnt understand why Itachi was running.

Had Jiraiya been truly stronger than Kisame and Itachi.... im sure Itachi, being the smart ass that he is,,,, wouldnt have wasted Tsukuyomi on Sasuke when he had just used it on Kakashi.....

why? Because if 100% Itachi and Kisame cant defeat Jiraiya.... that means that worn out Itachi and Kisame would have certainly lost... and we know Itachi had plans for the future.... circumstances are clearly pointing towards Itachi protect the leaf.......

There is PLENTY of reason to believe this statement was only there to protect Jiraiya... otherwise kishimoto wouldnt have used Kisame to state that Itachi could have taken Jiraiya on before AND after they left.



As for Sasuke and Naruto.... Naruto trying to protect Sasuke would have made sense when he was talking to the rookies... but the fact that he goes and tells himself AGAIN when meeting with the frog sage that he needs Kyuubi in order to fight Sasuke.... that is a different story... one that you can't seem to swallow.

 

[November]

Sm Naruto = Ms Sasuke
Happy Ending
agree?

 

[silmarill]

Believing Itachi was lying makes complete sense.

For starters... people assume, most polls and people suggest that the majority of people believe that Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya.

Second, Itachi alone beating Jiraiya is what makes the most sense.... but this wasnt Itachi alone but Itachi AND Kisame vs Jiraiya.

Third.... Kisame even suggest not once but twice that Itachi should have been able to take on Jiraiya by himself... and couldnt understand why Itachi was running.

There is PLENTY of reason to believe this statement was only there to protect Jiraiya... otherwise kishimoto would have had Kisame state that Itachi could have taken Jiraiya on.



As for Sasuke and Naruto.... Naruto trying to protect Sasuke would have made sense... but the fact that he goes and tells himself AGAIN when meeting with the frog sage that he needs Kyuubi in order to fight Sasuke.... this should be obvious enough.

I know Itachi > Jirayia
That wasnt my point.
My point is you allow yourself to take 1 thing in the manga for fiction but at the same time when it falls in your favor it seems more plausible for u that a character out of nowhere gets powers aka charles xavier and on that makes ridiculous illogical statements.

 

[insid3rkil3r]

I know Itachi > Jirayia
That wasnt my point.
My point is you allow yourself to take 1 thing in the manga for fiction but at the same time when it falls in your favor it seems more plausible for u that a character out of nowhere gets powers aka charles xavier and on that makes ridiculous illogical statements.

No, as i provided the reasons as to why i believe Itachi was superior to Jiraiya and why it was ''obvious''....

I did the same for Naruto and Sasuke.

Had Naruto admit that he was unable to defeat to Sasuke just once, it would have been POSSIBLE that he was protecting Sasuke.... yet only POSSIBLE, not canon.

But he said it AGAIN to himself alone without any reason to lie to the sage, then it's not hiding something... it's confirming it.


Im not taking everything that is said in the manga as completly canon, circumstances are of great importances.... but there is a limit to everything.

Refusing to take everything as canon as just as bad as taking everything. But the problem is that in the world, we need to give the benefit of the doubt and that we are to believe something intil proven wrong.

Had naruto said it once, i could have understood you, but when he repeats himself in order to confirm to us that he indeed knows that he can,t possibly defeat Sasuke, you need to realise that enough is enough.

OT ; poll has 2 choices... not 3

Can Sage Naruto defeat MS Sasuke, evidence points towards no,
Could it be a tie; Yes, but poll has Yes or No.

 

[lol99]

VIZ translation:

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Said you can't beat him just by being strong - not that he would lose to him. He was talking about some spiritual shit that I don't really care about tbh, because that would mean not even Madara could beat MS Sasuke even tho he is stronger than him (-_-).

I would have posted a better scan but I am now on phone so this will have to do for now

 

[KakuzuHatesMoney]

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the Zetsu's speech is not all true. Zetsu didn't know that or He didn't tell sasuke that :
Kyuubi helped naruto to beat pain
Deva Path is Handicaped

The kyuubi is Naruto. How many times does the manga have to emphasize that??? They are one; at least they are supposed to be. Look at Bee and his brotha the Hachibi. Get over yourselves fanboys saying dumb shit like this. I guess Sasuke is weak because he relied on Curse Seal to defeat Deidara? I guess Itachi is weak because he relies on Sharingan; oh wait its a core concept of their fighting styles. Naruto uses Kyuubi and Sage mode. Sasuke uses Sharingan/insert any uchiha tech and orochimaru powers. Its as simple as that. Yes he works together with another being, but hes a jinchuriki: he's meant to.

 

[AirWind]

Yes...and vice versa, depends on the situation. Probable logic.

 

[November]

The kyuubi is Naruto. How many times does the manga have to emphasize that??? They are one; at least they are supposed to be. Look at Bee and his brotha the Hachibi. Get over yourselves fanboys saying dumb shit like this. I guess Sasuke is weak because he relied on Curse Seal to defeat Deidara? I guess Itachi is weak because he relies on Sharingan; oh wait its a core concept of their fighting styles. Naruto uses Kyuubi and Sage mode. Sasuke uses Sharingan/insert any uchiha tech and orochimaru powers. Its as simple as that. Yes he works together with another being, but hes a jinchuriki: he's meant to.

you are worse than fanboy or troll U_U
I Posted like that Because to prove about zetsu's speech
Zetsu said Naruto is stronger than sasuke Not kyuubi + naruto is stronger than sasuke.
next time, you should think before posting
Edit: i know you are Negative Knight. this is your alt account, isn't it?
Hate me as much as you want but sorry i don't care

 

[Namikaze Senju]

its obvious naruto is stronger than sasuke

 

[KakuzuHatesMoney]

you are worse than fanboy or troll U_U
I Posted like that Because to prove about zetsu's speech
Zetsu said Naruto is stronger than sasuke Not kyuubi + naruto is stronger than sasuke.
next time, you should think before posting
Edit: i know you are Negative Knight. this is your alt account, isn't it?
Hate me as much as you want but sorry i don't care

Ok you're some guy with terribad English who accuses other posters of smurfing and trolling because you don't agree with them. GG. No, I have no idea who Negative knight is. I saw him post a few times when lurking, but never payed any attention to him beyond that. Trolls are usually the ones who accuse others of trolling. You mentioned how the Kyuubi and Naruto defeated Pain and made it seem like the Kyuubi and Naruto aren't essentially the same person when they clearly are.

 

[MartinRico]

MS sasuke no, how does sagemode dodge amaterasu?
Before MS, Naruto wins easy.

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That's how he would dodge it.

 

[the dark king]

if its old sage mode naruto then sasuke because of genjutsu but if its naruto whose bffs with kurama then naruto wins since genjutsu wont have much effect. but i think it should be old sm naruto to make it fair since were using an old sasuke. at the time ms sasuke was stronger since naruto was weak against genjutsu and he had to stay still in order to get into sage mode.

naruto is always going to be stronger
sasuke is always going to be more skilled and talented