Orochimaru is overrated and fails at everything

[jamiehavoc19]

Dude it goes down like this. Full powered oro=cant be stopped.simple as that. He knows almost all jutsus. Hes mastered all elements and he has sealing techniques. He stood against jiraya and tsuande with no fruckin arms and still made a laughing stock out of the.. u need to reread or somethin bro. For reals.

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

Naruto, yes
Madara, Rinnegan, EMS, Mokuton nuff said
Obito, he killed a 14 year old kid, wow he is now 33 or smth. + Rinnegan, u mad bro
Hashirama, wood + spores, nuff said.

Madara didn't have Rinnegan or Mokuton. Edo Madara does, though. Even then, there's a good chance Minato could take on Edo Madara.

Obito hasn't used any Rinnegan techs. except 6PoP. That makes his Rinnegan pretty much irrelevant. Of course it'd be tougher for Minato, but the result would most likely be the same as the last time they fought.

Minato more than likely knows of Hashi's techs., while Hashi doesn't know of Minato's. Like I said, it's understandable if Hashi won.

 

[~Sovereign~]

When compared to Sasuke yeah but in general Orochimaru is one of the legendary sannin. He went toe to toe with Jiraya n Tsunade :sy: this thread fails

tsunade was scared of blood and kabuto was helping oro

His goal was to perfect the immortality jutsu and I'd say the jutsu is doing pretty good

his goal is to have an uchiha body but he fails at getting it

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

Naruto, yes
Madara, Rinnegan, EMS, Mokuton nuff said
Obito, he killed a 14 year old kid, wow he is now 33 or smth. + Rinnegan, u mad bro
Hashirama, wood + spores, nuff said



1. Report for kidlike Insult.. oh wait.. u are a kid
2. Manga states, Kishi > You

Lol, resorting to reports because you can't handle the heat. Snake.

You can say Kishi > me all you like but you have no proof :rofl: Just empty words...

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

Dude it goes down like this. Full powered oro=cant be stopped.simple as that. He knows almost all jutsus. Hes mastered all elements and he has sealing techniques. He stood against jiraya and tsuande with no fruckin arms and still made a laughing stock out of the.. u need to reread or somethin bro. For reals.

While I agree, that's a bad reason as to why Oro is strong. Tsunade was hungover and Jiraiya was poisoned by Tsunade, not being able to really fight. So...yeah.

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

his goal is to have an uchiha body but he fails at getting it

True, but he wanted an Uchiha body so he could use the Sharingan to help himself with the learning of all the jutsu in the NarutoVerse.

Edit: Sorry for the double post.

 

[Fluffyman]

Jiraya - dead.
Tsunade - most likely dead or atleast crippled.
Orochimaru - still walking around like a baws.


@Hiruzen fight: Hiruzen killed himself to seal Orochimaru with the Death Reaper Seal and failed. Orochimaru probably is the only one who ever managed to (literally) escape the Death God. The loss of his arms were the reason for most of his failures afterwards but hes still around and probably already has a plan to get his arms back from the Death God.

His body isnt too weak, his power is just too great.

 

[Zlad]

orochimaru is a failure and overrated. i have him in top 20 strongest but i've seen people put him in top 10 or 15

if i remember correctly he lost just about every fight he ever been in (he probably won 1 that im forgetting) and fails at everything he does

-he actually lost to hiruzen who was 60+ years old because he lost his arms and failed to destroy konoha
-he lost to 4 tailed cloak naruto
-he lost to sasuke
-he got one shotted by itachi TWICE
-he was stuck inside his own curse seal until helped him get out of it
-he didnt get to be 4th hokage
-he lost to tsunade
-he failed to take over sasukes body
-he didnt master edo tensai
-anko said minato can beat oro, oro's own student is against him
-he didnt have a strong enough body to get dragon sage mode (if i remember correctly)


he is just a guy that does millions of experiments and doesnt stay dead and thinks everything is funny

i have nothing against people that like oro but people think he is successful and he really isnt

he's back in the manga now maybe he can do some successful in the future

He won the battle with Hiruzen, who died and who survived? It's that simple.

No, he toyed with the 4 tails like we humans toy with our dogs/cats.

Because he was at his weakest point, Sasuke knew this well.

How is that fail? That is just amazing because then you cannot die.

It's not over yet you know.

He was the one that made it perfect after Tobirama created it.

Disagree, with two Edo's he can easily beat Minato.

One correct, now does that make him weak? He was feared and known by many people. He is underrated and strong.

Orochimaru > Sasuke

So you are back... Please don't be stupid like you always were.

 

[jamiehavoc19]

Naruto and shizun fought kabuto after tsunade knockedhim. And yea ur right bout the poisikn and crap forgot. But still if his battle with hiruzen had endeddifferently this magna would alrdy be over. Oro would have personally pickedsasuke up and had his body there and itd be done. Oros strongerthen madara. Hell oro was playing dr with madaras dna.and senjus. He cld make the damn rinnegan if he hasnt alrdy. And as for edo madara. Oro perfected it! U think he wont know how to stop madara?

 

[~Sovereign~]

Are you going to start giving facts or just keep telling your opinion?

everything i said is a fact

what manga are you reading

which one of my facts are opinions??

oro lost a fight, how is that my opinion??? smh

Lost to Naruto and Sasuke because of Oro's inability to perform seals and his sickness.

Wasn't necessarily stuck, and I don't recall him asking to be set free from it.

Didn't get to be 4th Hokage because of his illegal experiments.

Well...technically he didn't lose. Jiraiya was present as well. And he couldn't perform seals either.

...I believe it has been proven by others that Oro did in fact perfect Edo Tensei.

Anko never said that. You are misinterpreting what she said. She said she wished the 4th was present because he was the only shinobi she could think of that could nullify him. Stop him, not defeat him.

That has never been mentioned....from what I know.

if oro had his arm, what is he gonna do????????

oro had his arm when he fought naruto, hiruzen, itachi and sasuke

Dude it goes down like this. Full powered oro=cant be stopped.simple as that. He knows almost all jutsus. Hes mastered all elements and he has sealing techniques. He stood against jiraya and tsuande with no fruckin arms and still made a laughing stock out of the.. u need to reread or somethin bro. For reals.

OOOOH you mean the fight when jiriaya was weaken from tsunade putting the stuff in his drink and tsunade was scared of blood???

the fight when kabuto did the dirty work

the fight when naruto and shizune had to do most of the fight until tsunade got over the blood

you need to read not me

 

[repulse]

Madara didn't have Rinnegan or Mokuton. Edo Madara does, though. Even then, there's a good chance Minato could take on Edo Madara.

Obito hasn't used any Rinnegan techs. except 6PoP. That makes his Rinnegan pretty much irrelevant. Of course it'd be tougher for Minato, but the result would most likely be the same as the last time they fought.

Minato more than likely knows of Hashi's techs., while Hashi doesn't know of Minato's. Like I said, it's understandable if Hashi won.

...uhh, yes he did? After his fight with Hashi he gained Mokuton and Rinnegan?

Oh I sincerely doubt that. Considering that Obito now has a better grip on his abilities, and not to mention the Uchiha kinjutsu.

I doubt that as well, Minato knowing about Hashi's techs. Besides, Hashi would be familiar with S/T jutsu because of Tobirama.

 

[HiddenSound]

Okay, I'll correct you because it looks like you're serious.
1. Orochimaru beat Hiruzen. Edo Tensei was way too much for Hiru to handle so he had to resort to RDS. On top of it, Orochimaru was merely playing with him.
2. Itachi beat Orochimaru twice.... and? Itachi is one of the most powerful ever. That's like mocking someone for getting beaten by Naruto or So6P.
3. lol Anko never said Minato could beat Orochimaru. She only said that Minato would have the best chance at standing up to him. Unless you can provide the manga scan, which you can't.
4. 4 Tails was a draw. Before they could finish Yamato took care of Naruto and Orochimaru had to leave due to his sick and dying body not being able to handle it. Even then he still fought on par with him. And he thought the battle was fun.
5. He lost to Sasuke when he was sick.
6. Hiruzen wanted Orochimaru to be Hokage more over Minato because he knew Orochimaru was the stronger Shinobi, but Orochimaru was twisted. That, and Orochimaru never wanted to be Hokage in the first place.
7. He lost to Tsunade and Jiraiya when he was armless and could only use Taijutsu.
8. He did master Edo Tensei. Go reread the manga, Kabuto even said it. He simply used a more powerful binding talisman than Kabuto.

Alright, I feel like I've had enough with your stupid thread. I'm going to go to sleep. Bye.

 

[repulse]

if oro had his arm, what is he gonna do????????

oro had his arm when he fought naruto, hiruzen, itachi and sasuke

...perform jutsu? Use ninjutsu?
Haha, he never fought against Itachi. He was testing his strength. When he fought against Hiruzen, he made the mistake of taunting him. And after that fight his arms has been useless, meaning he was very much handicapped versus Naruto and Sasuke.

 

[jamiehavoc19]

Dude i have lol. This is hilarious man. Plain and simple. Oro toom on everyone with no arms and hslf the time he eith won or it was a draw. HES NEVER BEEN DEFEATED BECAUSE HES NOT DEAD. Im in no way an oro fan. I actually hate the guy. But still hes prolly the strongest ninja out there. We havent even seen him go to sage mode. Or fightat 100% he wasnt full lower against hizuren either if u reread enough.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

He's still the smartest character to date (not including Hiruzen and RIkudo Sennin)

 

[repulse]

Dude i have lol. This is hilarious man. Plain and simple. Oro toom on everyone with no arms and hslf the time he eith won or it was a draw. HES NEVER BEEN DEFEATED BECAUSE HES NOT DEAD. Im in no way an oro fan. I actually hate the guy. But still hes prolly the strongest ninja out there. We havent even seen him go to sage mode. Or fightat 100% he wasnt full lower against hizuren either if u reread enough.

...Your logic is fascinating. So, in order for someone to be defeated, they have to be dead? LOL

Strongest? No. Sage mode? HA.

 

[~Sovereign~]

True, but he wanted an Uchiha body so he could use the Sharingan to help himself with the learning of all the jutsu in the NarutoVerse.

Edit: Sorry for the double post.

oro failed to get the uchiha body

which proves my point, oro fails at accomplishing his goals

Jiraya - dead.
Tsunade - most likely dead or atleast crippled.
Orochimaru - still walking around like a baws.


@Hiruzen fight: Hiruzen killed himself to seal Orochimaru with the Death Reaper Seal and failed. Orochimaru probably is the only one who ever managed to (literally) escape the Death God. The loss of his arms were the reason for most of his failures afterwards but hes still around and probably already has a plan to get his arms back from the Death God.

His body isnt too weak, his power is just too great.

i said oro never dies, i gave credit for that if you read

hiruzen stop oro's plans to destroy konoha
so hiruzen was the war, while oro won the fight

He won the battle with Hiruzen, who died and who survived? It's that simple.

No, he toyed with the 4 tails like we humans toy with our dogs/cats.

Because he was at his weakest point, Sasuke knew this well.

How is that fail? That is just amazing because then you cannot die.

It's not over yet you know.

He was the one that made it perfect after Tobirama created it.

Disagree, with two Edo's he can easily beat Minato.

One correct, now does that make him weak? He was feared and known by many people. He is underrated and strong

hiruzen lost the fight but won the war...oro failed to destroy konoha because he got his arms healedand delayed his plans

oro lost to 4 tails, he stopped toying after the 4th tail formed, he said tbb could kill him want the link? this is fact

he still lost, i never said oro is weak, i said he lost every fight and fails, your confused

kabuto made edo tensai more perfect

oro would be stuck inside of the curse seal forever if sasuke didnt release him, oro said he didnt think sasuke would be the one to release him (spomething like this)

minato has contract seal which would break oro's control of edo tensai like madara did

minato>oro

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

he beat hiruzen

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

...uhh, yes he did? After his fight with Hashi he gained Mokuton and Rinnegan?

Oh I sincerely doubt that. Considering that Obito now has a better grip on his abilities, and not to mention the Uchiha kinjutsu.

I doubt that as well, Minato knowing about Hashi's techs. Besides, Hashi would be familiar with S/T jutsu because of Tobirama.

Yes, because an old, shriveled up Madara is going to beat Minato. Please stop.

True. That'd be a good fight to see.

Why wouldn't he learn about arguably the best Hokage's techs.? Just because Tobirama had S/T doesn't mean it's anything like Minato's. Obito has S/T and it's nothing like Minato's. So....

 

[jamiehavoc19]

...Your logic is fascinating. So, in order for someone to be defeated, they have to be dead? LOL

Strongest? No. Sage mode? HA.

Ok when both people retreat bc they cant fight. Thats called a draw. Ur unlimited bs bout this is wats fascinatating. Oro cant be beat. Because he cant die if u cat kill so.eone u cant beatthem. He knowsmore jutsusthe the damn magnahas even shown. As for sage mode laugh all u want. Its alotstronger the ur gunna give it credit. Just bc itachi andsasukebeat kabuto doesntmake it weak. Oros alotsmart then to get trapped in that genjutsu.. full power oro cld pwn anyoneu threw at him. Hell his pupil (kabuto) was younger the itachi when he said he was on par with kakashi. Itachi beat kakashi as an adult not a kid. Madara mfull poweredwould give one hell of a fight. But oro would be the one walking away not madara