Hiruzen knows and can perform all Konoha Jutsu's

[Blaze Release]

Think its fair to say some didn't read the thread *sigh*

 

[KingHashirama]

Also, the jutsus in the Scroll of Seals are forbidden o-o. (Edo tensei , is most likely in there).

Kage bunshin = Forbidden

Plus, after learning that many jutsus..... the best he could do was a DTR seal against Oro.. then thats freaking sad.

Think its fair to say some didn't read the thread *sigh*

People read it.. but they focused on the part where you contradicted yourself. You stated KKG do not count as Konoha's jutsu's.

Which is wrong, Byakugan and Sharingan Konoha KKGs and their jutsus belong to Konoha.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

Also, the jutsus in the Scroll of Seals are forbidden o-o. (Edo tensei , is most likely in there).

Kage bunshin = Forbidden

Plus, after learning that many jutsus..... the best he could do was a DTR seal against Oro.. then thats freaking sad.

It was confirmed by anbu that Age depletes chakra. So a possible explanation is that the jutsu Hiruzen knew required lots of chakra.

If Hiruzen had some Senju DNA like Danzo, Hiruzen could probably have beaten Oro easily.

 

[sage22]

Nice post but I don't think he can perform all the jutsu but I'm sure he knows of all the jutsu in the village. He can't perform kekkei genkai but I'm sure he knows of it. N I'm sure he knows how to use all the secret techniques of the village like ino family's jutsu, multi size jutsu, and anything else that is written down on those scrolls. I even think he has rasagan considering its just chakra control.

 

[Talal]

Maybe he was using Naruto's way of training (making Shadow Clones) yes he wouldn't use it as efficiently as Naruto, but it would help him learn much faster.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

to perform all of konohas jutsu he must have certain criteria:
1.A bijuu inside of him and as a perfect host
2.All 5 chakra natures with S rank level skills
3.byakugan
4.sharingan
5.EMS
6.all other KKG
7.alive
/thread

 

[Talal]

to perform all of konohas jutsu he must have certain criteria:
1.A bijuu inside of him and as a perfect host
2.All 5 chakra natures with S rank level skills
3.byakugan
4.sharingan
5.EMS
6.all other KKG
7.alive
/thread

Read the thread...

 

[Owarij]

Well blaze.. this thread proves

1) all people against hiruzen apparently have an inability to read...

Read the thread...

Don't think they can

 

[WeaponXcel]

Agree with the topic post, very well put

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

I just finished reading now actually, and I find absolutely nothing wrong with it. Well done. I do feel tempted to say Hashirama > Hiruzen though. And besides, since the Senju are the founders of all these jutsu, wouldn't you think it's safe to say Hashirama and Tobirama knew their fair share of jutsu as well? I mean, since Hashirama had one of the most powerful KKG, why would he use those techniques? And IMO, BOD is one of the best genjutsus out there.

 

[Thundercles]

This is, perhaps, the best Hiruzen thread ever. Great job.

 

[Blaze Release]

Well blaze.. this thread proves

1) all people against hiruzen apparently have an inability to read...






Don't think they can

So it seems this might also be part of it

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True its a troll technique but it re illustrates my point

 

[Owarij]

I actually thought it was impossible to learn all 5 elements?

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"Mastery of all elements would take years of training"

Kishi also stated most jonin can use 2 and more elements..

True its a troll technique but it re illustrates my point

LOL , to pass down such a deadly jutsu

 

[transroboball]

I like it. Good job.

 

[Thundercles]

So hiruzen can use susanoo, kamui, izanagi, izanami, rasengan, FTG, and edo tensai? :sy:

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"Mastery of all elements would take years of training"

Kishi also stated most jonin can use 2 and more elements..




LOL , to pass down such a deadly jutsu

Owarji, you are correct, it is obvious that some people don't read.

*Im glad you linked that.. gonna use that some time.

 

[PrimeOfTheSixPaths]

I would say it is safe to say he knew and knew how to perform every Konoha jutsu besides the ones that needed a kekkei genkai to perform (tsukyomi, Gentle Fist, Aburame techs, etc)

I think he knew of every jutsu though. Kakkashi knew of Tsukyomi, a lot of people knew of Amaterasu, so i think Hiruzen knew of them also.

 

[PrimeOfTheSixPaths]

Um no, he doesnt know FTG, rasengan, any clan techniques. Im sure he knows ABOUT them and how to perform them, but he does not have the capability or knowledge to learn EVERY jutsu

/Thread

Please, Kakashi AND Jiraiya knew Rasengan. Dont say Hiruzen didnt >.>
He knew of FTG, but probably didn't know the seals to perform it.

 

[Waltz]

Think its fair to say some didn't read the thread *sigh*

Many actually. I wouldn't wast time replying to them either.

 

[Deadai]

How is Hiruzen able to use Aburame clan ninjutsu if he does not have a body full of insects?

 

[Waltz]

How is Hiruzen able to use Aburame clan ninjutsu if he does not have a body full of insects?

Not his point. What he's saying is that Hiruzen is able to use Jutsu associated with konoha/Konoha's jutsu..not every single jutsu that existed in the leaf. Read his reply to strict on page 3:

Im talking about ancestor techniques being defined as konoha techniques and not latest techniques being developed as these technique are not konoha's jutsu but rather individual techniques. As for Hiruzen he was rumoured to have a rather large reserve, madara's katon is boosted by his powerful chakra that which the uchiha have. An example was Kurenai's genjutsu