[Discussion] Something just doesn't add up

Sanguis

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Ok this is the sharingan stages:

3 three tomoe Sharingan
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Mangekyō Sharingan
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Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan
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Rinnegan???????

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Something is not adding up here.

Yes I am aware it is only unlocked with Senju DNA + Uhchia DNA but can it actually be classed as an evolution? It is more like a sacrifice then anything, trade everything of the Sharingan to get something completely different.

Although I am actually being a bit sceptic on the Rinnegan. Instead just forget what I said in the previous paragraph and think of it as the Rinnegan is not a complete Doujutsu.

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This is the Juubi's eye and you can clearly see it is a mixture of both the Sharingan and Rinnegan. I hate to reference DBZ for a Naruto thread but it will give an idea what I am trying to say: Goku shows Gohan he can become an ultra Super Saiyan it had incredible power but as Goku stated it lacked the speed and Agility. So think of this same example and relate it to the Rinnegan, it has the power but it lacks Genjutsu and other Doujutsu abilities.

With this evidence it would of been impossible for the So6Ps to have the Rinnegan to begin with and only unlocked it through sealing the Juubi. I also believe his so called Creation of All things was just a story and he only had the powers that Nagato processed.

How do you explain him creating the moon? Pain already did something similar

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Splitting the Juubi apart into 9 tailed beasts? It could just be a Jutsu we have not seen performed from the Rinnegan yet.

Think of it logically how could the Sage reason or control something with infinite amounts of Chakra and does not care about anything.


Overall, I now believe that Madara is trying to obtain this eye by having full control over the Juubi when he seals it within him which will allow him to access its power and thus surpassing So6P and if my theory is correct the final Sharingan form will be able to cast Infinite Tsukuyomi on the world.

Hoped you enjoyed reading.
 
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But people that have the rinnegan can also use their EMS abilities so they don't lose any genjutsu abilities.
 

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good theory, i will think about it a bit more
 

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But people that have the rinnegan can also use their EMS abilities so they don't lose any genjutsu abilities.

They cannot be used at the same time the user needs to switch between the two.
 

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i should add one thing.... when EMS evolves in rinnegan u still keep the sharingan abilities ... proof of this is when madara still accessed susano ... i will say that i think the rinnegan can still evolve but u dont lose ur sharingan powers by getting rinnegan
 

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But people that have the rinnegan can also use their EMS abilities so they don't lose any genjutsu abilities.

This ^ Knowing that Madara uses his EMS on the Kages but can switch to Rinnegan
 

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They cannot be used at the same time the user needs to switch between the two.

so what about sussonno thats a m.s teck. and madara had the susonno with the rennigan.
 

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i guess u are right rinngan is not a complete doujutsu.
 

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so i guess if the renni is not a complete doujustu then sasuke will some how get the complete form since naruto already showing signs of looking like so6p. yin yang baby
 

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I don't think you can get higher than Rinnegan. Sharinnegan (Sharingan + Rinnegan) should only belong to Juubi :eek: (My opinion but I could ofc be very wrong indeed.)
As well it makes sense that Rikudou Sennin got Rinnegan after sealing Juubi because if Juubi would carry the head DNA of Uchicha and then Rikudou Sennin would carry the head DNA of Senju/Uzumaki, mixing these two together and it will give Rinnegan :)


Anyway nice thread.
 

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so what about sussonno thats a m.s teck. and madara had the susonno with the rennigan.

(Sorry for the wait my computer shut down)

He can change its form but he cannot summon it without the Sharingan

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Splitting the Juubi apart into 9 tailed beasts? It could just be a Jutsu we have not seen performed from the Rinnegan ye

It's actually the Creation of All Things Jutsu that separated Juubi into 9 bijuus
 

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It's actually the Creation of All Things Jutsu that separated Juubi into 9 bijuus

I don't think the Creation All Things Jutsu even existed, the sage may of just used Human Path powers in an advanced way to split the Juubi and the King of Hell Jutsu has a variety of uses such as repairing The Paths of Pain and also a lie detector.

But of course I am only assuming.
 
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