MS Itachi and Jiraiya vs EMS Sasuke

MS Itachi and Jiraiya vs EMS Sasuke

  • Itachi and Jiraiya

    Votes: 19 79.2%
  • EMS Sasuke

    Votes: 5 20.8%

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genii96

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Yeah I know :T_T:

btw, what do you think: An Itachi and Tsunade, or an Itachi and Orochimaru combination can defeat Sasuke?

tsunade's chakra to itachi will basically make him temporary emsxd

also while he faces sasuke from the front,she can ambush from behind to break his susanoo.sasuke can't afford to face her and ignore itachi. So they win mid-high diff IMO

itachi and orochimaru rape low diff.
Oro solos IMO
shedding renders amaterasu useless
sasuke's tsukiyomi was brojen by danzo,orochimaru has a 5 in genjutsus,so can break it

he can send his kusanagi unserground and have it come up under sasuke to stab him.

He can make shadow clones,and all of them go hydra mode on sasuke.

He has edo hashirama,tobirama and dan incase edo isnt rrstricted.

Also didnt sasuke agree than oro would beat him if he was healthy?.

Anyway,with itachi there,they win rather handily.

You should forget abt sasuke and come over to my side;),it feels good being on the end of the ones who have the most supportersxd.(considering nearly every debate abt gaara/tsunade usually have more debaters on the opposing teamxd)
 

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- That scenario was very different. Even Sasuke pushes himself indefinitely to use high tier techniques during his fight with Danzo, but this is CS. How long did he maintain it before it leeched out his chakra completely and he dropped dead? He wouldn't be able to maintain a level four Sussano for such a long period when Sasuke said that even at ribs level every cell in his body ached.

- Even if it's less than a second, he can still be taken out, as Danzo was before he used Izanagi. Jiriya is not quicker than izanagi, now is he? If you believe that Sasuke is simply letting him get inside, then this is not a very solid point. Even if I do give you leeway, then Sasuke can simply summon a hawk and take to air, completely out of the range of Jiriya's frog song and can wait it out till the point Itachi's chakra levels drastically drop and so does his CS.

- Kakashi didn't react to it, he simply wrapped them. He said that they were 'too fast' and Danzo also supported this logic, when he said that there wasn't any time to form a single hand seal. Regardless of how fast he is, he isn't faster than Kamui or Izagani. Even the thought is far-fectched.

- Where is it stated that he can't spam it? This is a cop out to put more weight on the other party's performance.

- Jiraiya's performance with Pein was laughable. Don't even bring that argument up. That is human path. It charged straight in to suck his soul. It's not an offensive path at all, but a defensive one. Practically useless otherwise, and not proficient in any taijustu or speed feats. If he kicked him out of the way, then it isn't a feat at all. Jiraiya only faced about 5 % of pein's power, and died brutally when Asura confronted him. Had he shown something for that, I would've even considered your point.

- That shoe slipper point works against you, as he built his momentum by gathering is strength and then pushing himself off the wall. As you can see the dent left in the wall afterwards with the backwards force he applied. Completely useless in this battle.

- - His Sussano has three hands. Just thought you should know. Like I said; a non-commodity in this battle. This guy is over-rated by fans a lot.

1) That was a half dead completely exhausted itachi, I think a fresh Itachi can keep susanoo up easily long enough for Frog song, or even izanami if needed.

2) Out of range?, It travels via sound, There i no range on the tech, No range/High that sasuke could reach in time anyway. Unless sasuke or his Halk can move faster than sound he isn't going anywhere.

3) He warped it, Hence he reacted to it, To warp kakashi places barriers around the object to warp it. He didn't simply place them anywhere and randomly warp.
While There might not of been enough time for seals, there was still time for him to react to the arrow coming his way, Hence the tree that sprouted from his body.

For someone in Sm and a sensor barrier around them aswell, I'm pretty sure he can react in some way shape or form, let alone itachi standing near him who had the best feat of activating susanoo (Speed wise).
Also you don't have to be faster to dodge, Naruto proved this Against the 3rd raikage, Sensor skills help so much, Hence why i brought the barrier into this in the first place.

4) Laughable or not, That has nothing to do with it, Fact he Blitzed a path. speed feat is a Speed feat, NO matter how you down play it.
You sound like you think the arrow is instant, It's far from it. If you think neither jiraiya with all his enhancments and Itachi next to him cannot defend against sasuke's arrows then i'm just gonna laugh. If they're a team they would start of next to each other, Sasuke's arrows isn't getting past itachi's Susanoo, So this is mostly a irrelevant debate.

Itachi's susanoo has 3/4hands also (cannot remember how many exactly), Yet even with unlimited chakra he didn't Spam 3 of them, only the one.
Simply because it has 3 hands doesn't mean it can Spam arrows with one and Magatama with the other, Thats while ignoring that sasuke has never shown to know about or even having the ability to use Magatama. (not that i can remember anyway).
 

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Going with itachi and jiraiya.

sasuke could cover his susano with amaterasu but I think itachi could put out the flames since its shown he could.

I'm not sure if susano arrow could hit jiraiya in sage,

I think if sasuke was caught in frog song, he would be completely vulnerable, temporarily.

Even though sasuke has ems over itachi along with more stamina, look at their first fight. itachi outlasted him.

I think any summons that jiraiya brings up would get amaterasu'd or shot by sasukes susano arrow.

All in all jiraiya and itachi
 

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SM Jiraya can dodge arrows and it's proven by the fact SM gave the ability to a slower Kabuto do so. For those who don't understand how SM works, it enhances the former abilities of the user in all compartiments(speed, taijutsu, ninjutsu and even genjutsu). Kabuto is even slower in base than Jiraya(3.5 for Kabuto when Jiraya has 4.5), but SM enhanced his abilities so much that it allowed him to do so, so when we take into consideration the fact that Jiraya is even faster in base, do the math
 

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Jiraiya gets killed with an arrow
 

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Since when did Sasuke get so strong he would easily get demolished by jariah and itachi, Jairah alone killed three rennagan peins and itachi would probably beat him anyway... failllllllllllllll
 

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Since when did Sasuke get so strong he would easily get demolished by jariah and itachi, Jairah alone killed three rennagan peins and itachi would probably beat him anyway... failllllllllllllll

This is the fail ;)
 
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