Why the Juubi may have had consciousness

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We all know what Kurama said that the Juubi was the primordial god who created countries and oceans and is the source of all chakra. and it neither has feelings or emotions, but doesn't it? did anyone suspect that the Juubi may have had a "reason" to attack humanity back during the Sage's time? Maybe, just maybe, the Juubi over time formed a consciousness of its' own and saw the world torn apart by war and chaos which caused its' antagonism towards humans? remember that Jiraiya described S06P's time as a time of endless warring and battling, and when there is conflict, the environment is affected, destruction brings imbalance to nature, and thus nature itself reacted to this destruction in the form of the Juubi.

From the start of the series, we were all lead to believe that Kyuubi and the other Bijuus were mindless, feral and evil chakra monsters who terrorized the world, and only afterwards in the plot did we found out that they weren't really evil, they were hostile towards humans because they were treated badly and hunted down for their powers, so I think the same can be applied to the Juubi, that the Juubi over time formed a sort of collective consciousness from nature seeing the blatant disregard humans had for the environment and for life in general and decided to attack/eradicate humanity as retribution.

The sage may have simply saw the Juubi as a threat and subdued it without prior notice of the possible reasons for its' attacks, not that the Sage didn't act out of valor, but maybe he too was somehow misinformed, Hashirama the First Hokage, though he may not have harbor ill-feelings towards the Bijuus, none the less saw them as just means to an end, capturing them and distributing them to the different ninja villages. a source of power to maintain the balance of political power in the shinobi world.

This is a common literary plot device known as "misunderstood creatures" creatures who seem to be evil, or not necessarily evil but harmful, but the truth is they're not, we have just seen the human-side of the Bijuus, is it not possible to see the "human-side" of the Juubi? perhaps it merely attacked humans because of their wanton disregard for life, perhaps this primordial creature had enough of humanity's destructive ways and decided to once and for all eradicate humanity.

This would prove beneficial to the story plot-wise because

a. This would give the opportunity to "reason" with the Juubi (in the event it breaks free from Madara and Obito's control) to stop attacking humans.

b. No one currently living in Narutoverse can truly match the power of the fully transformed Juubi, not Madara, not Obito, not even Naruto. Only the Sage of the Six Paths himself was able to truly defeat it. In the event it breaks free and decides to destroy everyone it could do so single-handedly, but if there's is consciousness within the Juubi, if Naruto will be able to reason with it why humanity really isn't evil, then that provides an option for victory.

c. It would give absolute finality to the threat of the Juubi because even if Naruto was to capture/seal it within a Jinchuuriki or within himself, it will eventually break free again when the host dies, and thus the cycle of destruction will continue, if Naruto can speak to it and convince it that there is still goodness in humanity, then the Juubi might have faith in the light of humanity and will leave them in peace forever.
 
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It's nothing complex. As a being, it has it's own consciousness and as it approaches it's final stage it's consciousness grows closer to it's original state and it's harder to control.
 

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Juubi must be evil because otherwise there would be no need for SO6P to seal it
 

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It's nothing complex. As a being, it has it's own consciousness and as it approaches it's final stage it's consciousness grows closer to it's original state and it's harder to control.

You have to wonder why a primordial being who existed probably centuries or thousands of years before the Sage himself, would only attack humans during the Sage's time when conflict was ripe. Surely it would've been able to destroy humanity since the dawn of time itself and the first humans existed but it didn't. So it's logical to conclude that there is a reason it became antagonistic to humans.
 
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You have to wonder why a primordial being who existed probably centuries or thousands of years before the Sage himself, would only attack humans during the Sage's time when conflict was ripe. Surely it would've been able to destroy humanity since the dawn of time itself and the first humans existed but it didn't.

Well i think the title is somewhat misleading but the Content is very well put together. Nice Theory.
 

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I agree with you, I think as well that Juubi is a misunderstood creature. And As well that Chakra contains memories from all the other bijuus that became the parts of Juubi then Juubi itself should understand/see that Naruto actually don't want Juubi to be used as a weapon. And this could possibly build a bond between them.

Juubi won't notice this until he is uncontrollable, etc last transform.
 

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The Gyūki displayed fair analytical ability when it advised 'running opposites' to escape Suirō Sameodori. [ ] The Jūbi is but the assimilation of all the bijū, so perhaps its intellect is far greater than what any bijū has shown thus far.​
 

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The Gyūki displayed fair analytical ability when it advised 'running opposites' to escape Suirō Sameodori. [ ] The Jūbi is but the assimilation of all the bijū, so perhaps its intellect is far greater than what any bijū has shown thus far.​

Agreed, and it's also possible that the assimilated Bijuus would play a pivotal part in "convincing" the Juubi to see the good in humanity.
 

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Agreed, and it's also possible that the assimilated Bijuus would play a pivotal part in "convincing" the Juubi to see the good in humanity.

I actually think it would entertaining if the Jūbi exercised a Genjutsu (Izanami) at a point in time to stop the cycle of hatred. Essentially everything is a continuously loop that begins at Rikudō Sennin choosing a successor, and continues until mankind decides to accept that hate is not the way, but rather placing faith in others.
 
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I actually think it would entertaining if the Jūbi exercised a Genjutsu (Izanami) at a point in time to stop the cycle of hatred. Essentially everything is a continuously loop that begins at Rikudō Sennin choosing a successor, and continues until mankind decides to accept that hate is not the way, but rather placing faith in others.

This would be like some kind of Anti-Boddhi-Satva. I like the idea, "Become enlightened damn it.". Fortunately, Samsara doesn't require it since the cycle is already there.
 

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This would be like some kind of Anti-Boddhi-Satva. I like the idea, "Become enlightened damn it.". Fortunately, Samsara doesn't require it since the cycle is already there.

Varrah's idea also has a very Nietzschean idea: that of eternal recurrence of the same, and the way to break it is for humanity to attain self-actualization/ enlightenment or become an Ubermensch to break the cycle of the eternal return.
 

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obito did wonder at one point that he gave the juubi too much consciousness
so i wouldn't doubt it has one
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obito did wonder at one point that he gave the juubi too much consciousness
so i wouldn't doubt it has one
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Indeed, that is a possible indication of early manifestations of the Juubi's mind/consciousness, Obito might have felt it already then.
 
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