Sasuke vs Kisame(why Kisame wins)

[slaton02]

I read the thread I didn't see any proof

since you had a hard time seeing I'll tell you, Kisame absorbed lightning and paralyzing stone technique. It has been comfirmed he can absorb element ninjutsu that breakes through his skin and when he is fused with samehada he can absorb chakra by touch it. Can you understand that?

Sasuke is stronger. Kisame will die by Amaterasu

Manga disagrees

 

[Champ]

since you had a hard time seeing I'll tell you, Kisame absorbed lightning and paralyzing stone technique. It has been comfirmed he can absorb element ninjutsu that breakes through his skin and when he is fused with samehada he can absorb chakra by touch it. Can you understand that?

Samehada doesn't like fire, try again.

 

[slaton02]

Samehada doesn't like fire, try again.

xd you have a hard time reading don't you? I just told Kisame can absorb without samehada and when he is fused with samehada. Samehada not likeing fire isn't even a issue as Kisame will be doing the absorbing.

You need to get off Amaterasu cause it's not killing Kisame since he can absorb it.

 

[Champ]

xd you have a hard time reading don't you? I just told Kisame can absorb without samehada and when he is fused with samehada. Samehada not likeing fire isn't even a issue as Kisame will be doing the absorbing.

You need to get off Amaterasu cause it's not killing Kisame since he can absorb it.

You have a hard time understanding when I ask for proof, I don't want yo opinion. I want the manga scan of him doin so.

 

[the dark king]

i've never seen preta path absorb amaterasu so i doubt samehada can, also susanoo arrows are fast what if he decides to fire 3 arrows consecutively? the only thing that can kill sasuke is water dome because we don't know if shark bullet can tank susanoo arrows that are covered with amaterasu. sasuke has shown skills with reverse summoning which he used to escape c4 so he can just use a similar technique to escape water dome. if kisame tries close combat then sasuke can simply burn him with amaterasu starting with his head faster than samehada can absorb(assuming samehada can absorb amaterasu at all)

even if amaterasu can be absorbed, attacks like magatama shouldn't be taken lightly even if samehada can absorb amaterasu sasuke can simply continue burning him at the same rate or faster than samehada absorbs and use that as an advantage to attack. also Kagutsuchi's defence shouldn't be underestimated.

even if kisame has samehada incomplete susanoo has four arms i so he'd be forced to choose between absorbing the amaterasu on susanoo( because of Kagutsuchi) or one of the four arms (remember one arms can hold a blade covered in susanoo) or the amaterasu sasuke will put all over his body since he'll be within his eye sight .

so unless kisame can grow another pair of arms that each have samehada he can cant come close to sasuke, because if kisame tries to absorb one of the above he will simply get hit be any of the other 4

sasuke mid-high diff

 

[slaton02]

You have a hard time understanding when I ask for proof, I don't want yo opinion. I want the manga scan of him doin so.

Look under the first spoiler tag you see him absorbing lightning. I can post him absorbing the paralyzing stone needles too.

 

[Champ]

Look under the first spoiler tag you see him absorbing lightning. I can post him absorbing the paralyzing stone needles too.

He's usin Samehada to absorb, and he doesn't like fire so try again

 

[slaton02]

i've never seen preta path absorb amaterasu so i doubt samehada can, also susanoo arrows are fast what if he decides to fire 3 arrows consecutively? the only thing that can kill sasuke is water dome because we don't know if shark bullet can tank susanoo arrows that are covered with amaterasu. sasuke has shown skills with reverse summoning which he used to escape c4 so he can just use a similar technique to escape water dome. if kisame tries close combat then sasuke can simply burn him with amaterasu starting with his head faster than samehada can absorb(assuming samehada can absorb amaterasu at all)

even if amaterasu can be absorbed, attacks like magatama shouldn't be taken lightly even if samehada can absorb amaterasu sasuke can simply continue burning him at the same rate or faster than samehada absorbs and use that as an advantage to attack. also Kagutsuchi's defence shouldn't be underestimated.

even if kisame has samehada incomplete susanoo has four arms i so he'd be forced to choose between absorbing the amaterasu on susanoo( because of Kagutsuchi) or one of the four arms (remember one arms can hold a blade covered in susanoo) or the amaterasu sasuke will put all over his body since he'll be within his eye sight .

so unless kisame can grow another pair of arms that each have samehada he can cant come close to sasuke, because if kisame tries to absorb one of the above he will simply get hit be any of the other 4

sasuke mid-high diff

I give credit to you for give the first decent argument but still it fails and I will list why.
preta path never went up against amaterasu soo.....whats the point of bring it up?
Sasuke doesn't have unlimited chakra you know? and GSB absorbs any chakra and make it bigger, it will absorb the arrow and susanoo if it clashes with it and kill Sasuke.

Sasuke does not have help in this fight so suigetsu reverse summoning is not happening + if he leave the battlefield it would be disqualified.

Kisame can absorb all the ninjutsu and chakra skills Sasuke has shown in 1 way or another susanoo can be absorbed as soon as it touches Kisame or samehada.

I will give a manga page to anything I haven't already that you doubt/didn't see. I can tell some of these people don't know Kisame's techs at all and need to read the manga or at least read his wikipedia page or something cause they are trying to debate things that have already been comfirmed (like his natural chakra absorbing)

 

[slaton02]

He's usin Samehada to absorb, and he doesn't like fire so try again

omg why are you debating something that's been confirmed? did you not see the lightning sword stab his shoulder? are you blind sir? watch the anime episode if it helps you see. I know i'll just post him absorbing another tech (you'll just deny that too probably)

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[Scary Yamato]

Sasuke can still stab Kisame with a sword. Samehada cant absorb metal. Susanoo can block all of kiame's attacks and if Samehada is close enough to absorb the chakra from Susanoo, then Kisame is close enough for a sword fight. With sasuke's Sharingan it should be easy for him to track and counter Kisame's movements.

Kisame also stated that he was weaker than Itachi, and I think most of us can agree that sasuke is around that level.

 

[Champ]

omg why are you debating something that's been confirmed? did you not see the lightning sword stab his shoulder? are you blind sir? watch the anime episode if it helps you see. I know i'll just post him absorbing another tech (you'll just deny that too probably)

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I'm not debating it, I asked can you prove it. Though I believe Kisame will be turn to ash by Amaterasu like danzo was. Kisame hasn't absored any large scale attack on his own without Sameheda, like against Bee's Lariat, Samehada absorbed it not Kisame, his chest got opened up. Nagato's preta path took Bee's Lariat without gettin damage in the process of draining his chakra. Anyway Sasuke Susano'o arrows which are too fast for Kisame to dodge, one to the head and he's dead.

 

[BigBlade Master]

xd you have a hard time reading don't you? I just told Kisame can absorb without samehada and when he is fused with samehada. Samehada not likeing fire isn't even a issue as Kisame will be doing the absorbing.

You need to get off Amaterasu cause it's not killing Kisame since he can absorb it.

What are u saying?
Kisame can't absorb Amaterasu

 

[SadSasuke]

If this is your argument, then Kisame can beat Itachi with less work, which is dumb because Itachi was already proven to be stronger than Kisame.

 

[slaton02]

If this is your argument, then Kisame can beat Itachi with less work, which is dumb because Itachi was already proven to be stronger than Kisame.

No he hasn't everything I'm say against Sasuke can be used against Itachi I already made a thread about it

What are u saying?
Kisame can't absorb Amaterasu

yes he can, prove me wrong. I just showed you he can absorb ninjutsu

Sasuke can still stab Kisame with a sword. Samehada cant absorb metal. Susanoo can block all of kiame's attacks and if Samehada is close enough to absorb the chakra from Susanoo, then Kisame is close enough for a sword fight. With sasuke's Sharingan it should be easy for him to track and counter Kisame's movements.

Kisame also stated that he was weaker than Itachi, and I think most of us can agree that sasuke is around that level.

Great shark bullet nuff said and Kisame never said Itachi is stronger than him

I'm not debating it, I asked can you prove it. Though I believe Kisame will be turn to ash by Amaterasu like danzo was. Kisame hasn't absored any large scale attack on his own without Sameheda, like against Bee's Lariat, Samehada absorbed it not Kisame, his chest got opened up. Nagato's preta path took Bee's Lariat without gettin damage in the process of draining his chakra. Anyway Sasuke Susano'o arrows which are too fast for Kisame to dodge, one to the head and he's dead.

1. I proved he can absorb ninjutsu so why would he not absorb Ama? It failed to burn a fodder samurai, A's arm, and karin so it burning him before he can absorb it would be false.
2. actually Bee's lariate didn't cause the hole in his chest Samehada did. If you look he blocked the attack with samehada and the sword was pushed into Kisame an ripped open his torse. Just look at it
3. A giant arrow at Kisame's head is likely not gonna to happen considering it such a small target and he can move. danzo Had enough time to use wood style I think Kisame has enough to side step it and take slight to no damage from it and if Sasuke is in waterdome with him...well we can all say it's over for Sasuke because Kisame is too fast, can summon hundereds of sharks and sense.

 

[Champ]

1. I proved he can absorb ninjutsu so why would he not absorb Ama? It failed to burn a fodder samurai, A's arm, and karin so it burning him before he can absorb it would be false.
2. actually Bee's lariate didn't cause the hole in his chest Samehada did. If you look he blocked the attack with samehada and the sword was pushed in Kisame an ripped open his torse. Just look at it
3. A giant arrow at Kisame's head is likely not gonna to happen considering it such a small target and he can move. danzo Had enough time to use wood style I think Kisame has enough to side step it and take slight to no damage from it and if Sasuke is in waterdome with him...well we can all say it's over for Sasuke because Kisame is too fast, can summon hundereds of sharks and sense.

Samehada absorbed Bee's chakra, after Kisame got his chest blew open. If Kisame could absorb chakra as fast as you say he can, the he would've absorbed Bee, but he didn't. Fight would be over too quick since Kisame has a 4 in speed and Kakashi has a 4.5 and he couldn't get out the way of Sasuke arrows, Kisame gets killed.

 

[the dark king]

i think kisame has limits to how much he can absorb and even if he doesn't can samehada simultaneously absorb an entire susanoo and absorb the amaterasu flames that sasuke will undoubtably envelop kisame's body with? using this method of attacking sasuke could kill or prevent kisame from using water dome or shark bomb they

shark bomb will kill sasuke and i agree to that, if it can eat amaterasu then it can kill him

the reason i brought up preta path is because of the 2 pics below, why didn't nagato use preta path instead he used shinra tensei after getting burnt alive

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since edo bodies move on their own to counter moves in the best way why not just absorb it instead of using shinra tensei? and why wait till he was already badly burnt? that leads me to believe that he couldn't absorb it.

i think kisame has to have a limit to the speed at which he absorbs chakra . sasuke can attack with with with kirin and use blaze release the instant kisame starts absorbing kirin, and even if he can absorb both sasuke will simply use this moment to either attack him with shuriken jutsu or use the body flicker tech to attack kisame with his sword.

even if kisame can be broken out of genjutsu doesn't he have to realize he's in a genjutsu or does it happen automatically? if it doesn't happen automatically then sasuke can use a deceptive genjutsu like he did to danzo. if kisame absorbs sasuke's combined attacks that i've suggested above then he has to have a brief period where he's open sasuke can use this to attack him.

if kisame is imune to genjutsu, can absorb amaterasu, absorbs usanoo, absorb 2 atacks aimed at at different directions simultaneously, can heal incredibly fast the sasuke is screwed.

i tried my best to defend sasuke but based on the logic that amatersu has chakra and can be absorbed kisame mid-high diff

my question is if kisame ca absorb even amaterasu can't he absorb tbb or jinton? if so then kisame beats onoki and would give naruto hell

kisame with samehada can beat most nin if what u say is correct

 

[UchihaInza]

yea slaton i mean kisame is strong but i dont think he would stand a chance with ems or AMATERASU!!! i mean kisame beat killer b and his bro and gai at the same time but sacrificed himselfe...but he couldnt barely keep up with them..what do you think the new and improved sasuke would do ???just demolish xd Uchiha Inza

 

[genii96]

Sasuke should be stronger,though if a great shark bullet is let loose,sasuke is dead

 

[slaton02]

Samehada absorbed Bee's chakra, after Kisame got his chest blew open. If Kisame could absorb chakra as fast as you say he can, the he would've absorbed Bee, but he didn't. Fight would be over too quick since Kisame has a 4 in speed and Kakashi has a 4.5 and he couldn't get out the way of Sasuke arrows, Kisame gets killed.

He did absorb bee's chakra but samehada was pushed ino him Ama burn feats have been alot slower than that lariate, and Kakashi didn't side step the arrow he kamui'd it since it was the better op. If Kisame gets cle o Sase hi chakra and layers of susanoo will be absorbed.

i think kisame has limits to how much he can absorb and even if he doesn't can samehada simultaneously absorb an entire susanoo and absorb the amaterasu flames that sasuke will undoubtably envelop kisame's body with? using this method of attacking sasuke could kill or prevent kisame from using water dome or shark bomb they

shark bomb will kill sasuke and i agree to that, if it can eat amaterasu then it can kill him

the reason i brought up preta path is because of the 2 pics below, why didn't nagato use preta path instead he used shinra tensei after getting burnt alive

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since edo bodies move on their own to counter moves in the best way why not just absorb it instead of using shinra tensei? and why wait till he was already badly burnt? that leads me to believe that he couldn't absorb it.

i think kisame has to have a limit to the speed at which he absorbs chakra . sasuke can attack with with with kirin and use blaze release the instant kisame starts absorbing kirin, and even if he can absorb both sasuke will simply use this moment to either attack him with shuriken jutsu or use the body flicker tech to attack kisame with his sword.

even if kisame can be broken out of genjutsu doesn't he have to realize he's in a genjutsu or does it happen automatically? if it doesn't happen automatically then sasuke can use a deceptive genjutsu like he did to danzo. if kisame absorbs sasuke's combined attacks that i've suggested above then he has to have a brief period where he's open sasuke can use this to attack him.

if kisame is imune to genjutsu, can absorb amaterasu, absorbs usanoo, absorb 2 atacks aimed at at different directions simultaneously, can heal incredibly fast the sasuke is screwed.

i tried my best to defend sasuke but based on the logic that amatersu has chakra and can be absorbed kisame mid-high diff

my question is if kisame ca absorb even amaterasu can't he absorb tbb or jinton? if so then kisame beats onoki and would give naruto hell

kisame with samehada can beat most nin if what u say is correct

Nagato was being controlled by Kabuto and shinrei tensei is better than absorbing it. Plus preta path absorbing works differently than Kisame's. Kirin takes way too much prep Saske doesn't have, you thinkabout all the way Sasuke can win without thinking of the charka amount. He has chakra know? an you're not thinking about Kisame being the attacker youre just lookin at Sasuke spamming techs with no charka loss and Kisame not attacking.

Amaterasu has chakra you shouldn't even question that and yes es Nart would have truble with him too he was aleady stated o be the best jin hunter in akatsuki and t never fall/die(diffrent translation) and never tire. I do thinkthre is a limit to how much he can absorb so I would not think he can absorb tbb without GSB and Jinton is a weir jutsu that puts you in a box and turn you into dust, I doubt he can absorb if it's executed because it's instant death. He may be able to if he uses samehada to swip around the box before the jutsu is completed. I don't know how dust release works.Yes Ksame can eat most nin becase he can absorb most ninjutsu and hi durability, he really is underrated on here but when you look at the facts he can do all of this. I would agree Kisame mid diff if youre not being sarcastic which you shouldn't be.

 

[Champ]

He did absorb bee's chakra but samehada was pushed ino him Ama burn feats have been alot slower than that lariate, and Kakashi didn't side step the arrow he kamui'd it since it was the better op. If Kisame gets cle o Sase hi chakra and layers of susanoo will be absorbed.

Kisame didn't absorbs Bee's chakra, Samehada did. Kisame got his chest blew up, while Preta path absorbed Bee's chakra without gettin hurt. So Amaterasu will turn him to ash before he can react or absorb it. Lariat is slower than Amaterasu and he couldn't even react to that. Kamui was Kakashi only option since he couldn't move, Kisame doesn't have Kamui he gets his head blown off. Couldn't understand the last part, but Sasuke has too many ways to win. genjutsu which will drop Kisame, and leave him open to any attack, Sasuke can take samehada out the picture quick with Amaterasu, or Kirin which will obliterate him.