So much for a debate. It seems to me this isn't a debate at all if you're going to be attacking Hiruzen's fans and claiming Minato beat Hiruzen in a title for Hokage when you have no evidence to even suggest he fought Hiruzen for the title of Hokage. In addition, Hashirama didn't whoop Madara's ass, Hashirama himself was in pretty bad shape himself if you've read the manga.
Honestly, Hashirama would be disappointed in his fans if he was real because I don't think Hashirama wanted to appoint a Hokage weaker than himself. Hashirama and Tobirama didn't train Hiruzen just so that Hiruzen would be weaker.