Debate: Edo tensei is over rated comparing to those without it

[aGuyNamedQuest]

I keep seeing these threads about harashima, madara, hiruzen, minato and nagato. First comparing anyone, you have to think about when they died, when they were alive, what skills they had and when their skills stopped progressing.

MADARA: When it comes down to this guy the only person to whoop him was harashima. If you get serious and realize that his edo form is invincible you will not compare him to no one else but harashima in his alive form.

HIRUZEN: against madara....NEVER!!!! Only way he has a chance of surviving long enough to hurt madara is if he went edo too and that isn't even a definite. GET REAL DATABOOK FAN BOYS!!!

MINATO: possible match ups is hiruzen and obito. He beat him in a match for the title of hokage and whooped obito in the nine tails attack.

Nagato: He will never go against anyone on his own because he is too young minded and cannot master the rinnegan without help.(EXAMPLE: When he was alive he used yahiko and the origanal akatsuki to fight for him.) When he went edo, kabuto was controlling him...he was not moving on his own and when he was, him and itachi was slumping around walking. During the fight against itachi...if he knew how to do all those moves by himself why didn't he attack the leaf village by himself...DUHHH...He was too weak mentally to master those techniques..hence the chakra recievers and rinnie tensei through dead commrades.

HARASHIMA: Wether it be edo form or alive...no other shinobi in this thread will stop him due to the eveidence i provide.

WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE IS OK.....DEBATE

 

[Edo Odin]

You're an idiot... :|

Nagato mastered the Rinnegan further than anyone so far. He didn't use Yahiko to fight for him, he followed his will because Yahiko was the leader, and because Nagato shared his dream with him and wanted to help him.

 

[StraawHat]

Edo Tensai is for homosexual males.

 

[Reaper]

He did not use Yahiko -.-

 

[UchihaInza]

yea edo tensei is a jutsu that is forbidden to use BLAME TOBIRAMA !! Uchiha Inza

 

[Aertes]

By Harashima you mean Hashimara???

 

[StraawHat]

Edo Tensei requires a lot of skill, power, ability and Troll No Jutsu.

 

[Dantee]

Minato didn't beat Hiruzen for the title of hokage. Hiruzen got old and retired.

 

[Talal]

Edo Tensei requires a lot of skill, power, ability and Troll No Jutsu.

Fixed.

 

[Deadai]

nope, its an OP jutsu w/o a weakness

 

[aGuyNamedQuest]

You're an idiot... :|

Nagato mastered the Rinnegan further than anyone so far. He didn't use Yahiko to fight for him, he followed his will because Yahiko was the leader, and because Nagato shared his dream with him and wanted to help him.

Madara has mastered the rinnegan further than anyone firend...madara is has no problems using the rinne on his own...nagato's six paths got wrecked by naruto him self...he seperated all six paths using chakra recievers and dead bodys because he can't do it on his own....he did not master it becase he would be invincible...yet he is a dead man at itachi's hand. He did not master anything but his own death

 

[Dantee]

Madara has mastered the rinnegan further than anyone firend...madara is has no problems using the rinne on his own...nagato's six paths got wrecked by naruto him self...he seperated all six paths using chakra recievers and dead bodys because he can't do it on his own....he did not master it becase he would be invincible...yet he is a dead man at itachi's hand. He did not master anything but his own death

Nagato on the chakra recievers could still fight and use the rinnegan powers. IF not how did he revive the whole village? Edo Tensei revives you in the state that you died. You failed trying to troll Nagato. He is as strong if not stronger than Hashirama and MAdara.

 

[Insidious Smile]

For Bats Sake ! :sy:

 

[StraawHat]

Fixed.

Lol, you're right, it makes more sense now

 

[Owarij]

This thread..I have no words

 

[Insidious Smile]

Minato didn't beat Hiruzen for the title of hokage. Hiruzen got old and retired.

and retarded...

 

[OnPoint]

You failed hard trying to par Nagato.

 

[Deadai]

Madara has mastered the rinnegan further than anyone firend...madara is has no problems using the rinne on his own...nagato's six paths got wrecked by naruto him self...he seperated all six paths using chakra recievers and dead bodys because he can't do it on his own....he did not master it becase he would be invincible...yet he is a dead man at itachi's hand. He did not master anything but his own death

That's ridiculous

Nagato has had far more practice with Rinnegan then Madara has.

Also Pain would wreck Itachi

 

[Edo Odin]

Madara has mastered the rinnegan further than anyone firend...madara is has no problems using the rinne on his own...nagato's six paths got wrecked by naruto him self...he seperated all six paths using chakra recievers and dead bodys because he can't do it on his own....he did not master it becase he would be invincible...yet he is a dead man at itachi's hand. He did not master anything but his own death

He did master it, how else would he have been able to use it vs Naruto and Bee ? Madara so far has only shown Preta Path, and based on the fact that Nagato had it for almost all his life, it's safe to assume that he mastered it further than Madara did, or at least to a level equal to Madara. Saying Nagato didn't master it is beyond stupid.

Naruto beat the paths with an immense amount of PnJ, and with the Deva Path being useless for most of the fight. After Deva gained his power back, he destroyed the boss toads, Fukasaku, and Naruto in about a minute.

He did master it, and that's the reason for Kishi crippling him. If he hadn't, like you say, Nagato would have become pretty much invincible.

Itachi killed a Nagato puppet being controlled by Kabuto by surprising him, while Nagato was also fighting two jins...

 

[LiirKo]

Nagato on the chakra recievers could still fight and use the rinnegan powers. IF not how did he revive the whole village? Edo Tensei revives you in the state that you died. You failed trying to troll Nagato. He is as strong if not stronger than Hashirama and MAdara.

This^