Another shooting in the US.

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Since I haven't posted it, I mourn the loss of life that occured in this tragedy. A Sonic tear has been shed for the family.



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I understand that I truly feel bad for these people and there familes I really do


both of you say something needs to be done.....I don't think so because if you try to change it things will get worst. A black market will open up and you can bet the murderers will be going there! You know what fûck it let them change the laws! Let them take my gun away I'll be quick to buy one in the black market! And no I'm not a murderer I'll have mine for protection just like I do now.
When I said something needs to be done I didn't mean banning guns...read the end of my post.
 

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You can keep telling yourself that. But, the fact remains. That if you were to revolt against your government, you would be totally annihilated. There is absolutely no chance, that the general population of America would win against the Government.

Also, I said nothing about "taking away your right to revolt". I said, that America need to fix or make new gun laws.
Bullshit. Soldiers wouldn't shoot their own people. Idk where you are from but you've got another thing coming if you think our brothers and sisters would fire on us.
 

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Murder is illegal but it still happens. Gun laws won't do diddly shit
Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom all have fairly strict gun laws, and between the 3 of them, there are a total of 85 deaths pre year (average). The combined population of those 3 countries, is roughly 90mil.

America has terrible gun laws, and the death count (from firearm) is 10,000 per year (average). Population is 300mil.

See the difference? Even if we had 300mil people, combined between UK, NZ and AUS the death count would be about 300 per year. That's a difference of 9700. It's obvious that the gun laws, we have here are doing something. IF you can't see this, then I don't know what to say.

Also peeps, I never said anything about taking away your rights to have firearms. What I said was, that the laws need to be changed or new laws need to introduced.
 

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Bullshit. Soldiers wouldn't shoot their own people. Idk where you are from but you've got another thing coming if you think our brothers and sisters would fire on us.
Soldiers can and will shoot their own people if ordered. Some of them may walk out, but I guarantee you it will and has happened. Why don't you go research what happened during hurricane katrina and the rodney king riots.

Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom all have fairly strict gun laws, and between the 3 of them, there are a total of 85 deaths pre year (average). The combined population of those 3 countries, is roughly 90mil.

America has terrible gun laws, and the death count (from firearm) is 10,000 per year (average). Population is 300mil.

See the difference? Even if we had 300mil people, combined between UK, NZ and AUS the death count would be about 300 per year. That's a difference of 9700. It's obvious that the gun laws, we have here are doing something. IF you can't see this, then I don't know what to say.

Also peeps, I never said anything about taking away your rights to have firearms. What I said was, that the laws need to be changed or new laws need to introduced.
You look at one tree instead of the whole forest. This is why I cannot take you seriously.
 

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Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom all have fairly strict gun laws, and between the 3 of them, there are a total of 85 deaths pre year (average). The combined population of those 3 countries, is roughly 90mil.

America has terrible gun laws, and the death count (from firearm) is 10,000 per year (average). Population is 300mil.

See the difference? Even if we had 300mil people, combined between UK, NZ and AUS the death count would be about 300 per year. That's a difference of 9700. It's obvious that the gun laws, we have here are doing something. IF you can't see this, then I don't know what to say.

Also peeps, I never said anything about taking away your rights to have firearms. What I said was, that the laws need to be changed or new laws need to introduced.
I'm sorry but I still disagree. I see things getting worst if they are changed.
 

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Soldiers can and will shoot their own people if ordered. Some of them may walk out, but I guarantee you it will and has happened. Why don't you go research what happened during hurricane katrina and the rodney king riots.



You look at one tree instead of the whole forest. This is why I cannot take you seriously.
I disagree with you.
 

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The government basically it seems to be pushing a movement to rid us the amendments, starting with right to bare arms, nowadays there are so much effeminate men, that the most likely the amendments would be dissolved into a mere joke, for we gave into our passions, susceptible to commit iniquity due to our television driven minds, worldly and weak. we are brainwash and rinsed out of our moral values, not knowing our true purposes as men any longer, stumbled across a book called "The Great Controversy" by Ellen G. White.

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You look at one tree instead of the whole forest. This is why I cannot take you seriously.
Why do you say that? How was that looking at "One tree instead of the whole forest"? The fact is, that something is wrong with America's gun laws, and until people can accept this, nothing is going to change.
 

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Why would they do that ?
Martial law went into play and they were ordered to shoot people looting food that was going to rot, not to mention they legally could go into houses and in doing so harmed multiple civilians.

Why do you say that? How was that looking at "One tree instead of the whole forest"? The fact is, that something is wrong with America's gun laws, and until people can accept this, nothing is going to change.
You don't consider the multiple scenarios that go into play when someone shoots up a school/mall or whatever it may be. You immediately blame gun laws instead of looking at the whole picture.
 

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I wonder sometietimes if these gun control f*cktards realize that laws like that only hurt good citizens? Pot, underage drinking, speeding, and stealing is illegal too but it still happens. Alot. Hell id like to smoke a fatty now and then but its illegal so i dont, because im a law abiding citizen. Most people still do, its cool. So if people dont care to shoot up some heroin or something they wont care to buy a unregistered gun. In fact, how many gun crimes are committed by legal gun each year? And by illegal unregisted guns? Yep. If i intended to shoot someone out of malice id definitly say "hot damn guns are illegal i cant."(sarcasm) its a crock.
 

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Last friday in Philippines, a gun man also killed 7 people and wounded 12 people. He is just walking around the Kawit a town outside manila, Philippines then there he shot 7 people. It was just a regular day for some Filipinos but their lives were lost because of a shot of a bullet. I personally think not just america but the whole world should really do something about the gun shoot. To read more information go to .
 

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Martial law went into play and they were ordered to shoot people looting food that was going to rot, not to mention they legally could go into houses and in doing so harmed multiple civilians.



You don't consider the multiple scenarios that go into play when someone shoots up a school/mall or whatever it may be. You immediately blame gun laws instead of looking at the whole picture.
Did I ever say, that 'Changing the gun laws, would magically fix the problem'? No I didn't, I said that America needs to change it's gun laws. Now, I know that changing the laws won't magically fix the problem, but it's a step in the right direction.
 

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Did I ever say, that 'Changing the gun laws, would magically fix the problem'? No I didn't, I said that America needs to change it's gun laws. Now, I know that changing the laws won't magically fix the problem, but it's a step in the right direction.
And here's where I disagree again, changing the law won't stop people like that getting there hands on a gun.
 

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Did I ever say, that 'Changing the gun laws, would magically fix the problem'? No I didn't, I said that America needs to change it's gun laws. Now, I know that changing the laws won't magically fix the problem, but it's a step in the right direction.
The only people affected by laws being changed are those who abide by the laws. So it is not and will never be a step in the right direction.
 

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The only people affected by laws being changed are those who abide by the laws. So it is not and will never be a step in the right direction.
Exactly. It takes the guns way from the good guy who may saveyour asses from the criminal by shooting him with his legal, registered, concealed gun.
 

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And here's where I disagree again, changing the law won't stop people like that getting there hands on a gun.
It won't stop them getting guns, correct. But, it'll make it harder for them to get their hands on them.


The only people affected by laws being changed are those who abide by the laws. So it is not and will never be a step in the right direction.
No, if new laws are introduced, banning sales on some guns (Auto, Sub-Auto machine guns). Ultimately it's going to make these type of weapons harder to acquire. I don't see how this would "hurt" law abiding citizens. They would still be able to own there Bolt-actions and pistols. I don't see why, civilians need Auto, Sub-Auto machine guns.
 

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It won't stop them getting guns, correct. But, it'll make it harder for them to get their hands on them.




No, if new laws are introduced, banning sales on some guns (Auto, Sub-Auto machine guns). Ultimately it's going to make these type of weapons harder to acquire. I don't see how this would "hurt" law abiding citizens. They would still be able to own there Bolt-actions and pistols. I don't see why, civilians need Auto, Sub-Auto machine guns.
Marijuana, cocaine, heroin, acid ect is illegal yet it only takes me 5 minutes to get possession of any of those. Like I said prior banning assault weapons will not fix or help this issue. It only takes weapons out of civilians hands and opens a black market up.
 
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