Bijuu Mode Vs Perfect Susanoo

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Madara brung the fox to aid him in fighting Hashi. Why just bring Perfect Susanoo when he can use both?

I doubt if he could use them at the same time. After all, it was said in manga that Madara could tame Kyuubi only for short spans of time, so it must have been taxing as hell for him. Adding PS to this would be an overkill IMO.
 

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well the only example of a perfect susanoo we have seen is madara and that is void since the ****er cant die.
Now we have actually seen what BM can do and its alot..he has been fighting nonstop since the war started only taking brief breaks.

Now madara is right now suffering no side effects on fatigue or the usually bloody eye body rejection that other uchihas have shown....
AND THATS BECAUSE HES DEAD
 

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The reason Madara didn't use PS against hashirama is because PS drains a MASSIVE amount of chakra to control something like the kyruubi is cheaper and does your dirty work for you. It's just common war sense why waste my chakra when I can waste something equally powerful with less chakra consumption?And to answer your question PS, why? Well let's see madara himself was able to read naruto's speed (Sharnningan) and reflected his attack. Uchiha's have many tricks we still have yet to we still haven't seen the full extent of perfect susano's power. Sure Bijuu mode is powerful Offensively and PS is more defensively but we'll never know since all we do know is perfect susano's mountain crushing power but let's look at something else. Madara summoned a massive meteor with only complete susano imagine the destructive power that perfect susano can summon or maybe PS can use jutsu through Madara it does have 2 free hands remember Susano is really the Uchiha spirit in a "demonic" like form since uchiha's are strong "Spiritually". But until we have seen the full extent of what PS can d all other answers are up to speculation. But more notably why would Madara use PS often? he seems to hold a big ego about it but Madara as he is can take Biuu mode down without PS no offense to naruto uzumaki fans.
 

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The reason Madara didn't use PS against hashirama is because PS drains a MASSIVE amount of chakra to control something like the kyruubi is cheaper and does your dirty work for you.

Kurama is cheaper? I doubt that. It was said in manga: Madara was able to tame Kyuubi only for short spans of time, so it must have been very taxing on him. Moreover, he most probably knew beforehand that Hashirama can supress Kyuubis chakra, yet he decided to use him, not his PS in their final fight. That also says something.
 

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Look at their feats. A single sword slash that was so fast reduced a huge mountain to dust. How is it not above BM?
 

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Look at their feats. A single sword slash that was so fast reduced a huge mountain to dust. How is it not above BM?

I will just quote myself from my previous post, lol.
Its true that PS strenght is overwhelming, but same can be said about Kurama. Afterall, it was described as creature being able to destroy a mountain with a swing of its tail and its not just empty hype.

-> Look at how huge Chibaku Tensei is, compare its size to the size of the mountains below.

-> And this is what KM8 Naruto (it wasnt full power) was doing to it.

-> Only one tail was needed to subdue a tailded beast. Thats how strong Kurama is.
Also, this:
Kurama is cheaper? I doubt that. It was said in manga: Madara was able to tame Kyuubi only for short spans of time, so it must have been very taxing on him. Moreover, he most probably knew beforehand that Hashirama can supress Kyuubis chakra, yet he decided to use him, not his PS in their final fight. That also says something.
 

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Look at their feats. A single sword slash that was so fast reduced a huge mountain to dust. How is it not above BM?

BM vaporized mountains. He knocked several tailed beast balls to the side and destoryed them. And he fired off tailed beast balls that could vaporize mountains.
 

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I doubt if he could use them at the same time. After all, it was said in manga that Madara could tame Kyuubi only for short spans of time, so it must have been taxing as hell for him. Adding PS to this would be an overkill IMO.

No I'm pretty sure it only said something about Obito. Madara possesed the EMS which was a tier above the MS, I doubt Madara would bring the fox unless it was advantageous to him.
 

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Look at their feats. A single sword slash that was so fast reduced a huge mountain to dust. How is it not above BM?

BM Naruto easily deflected 5 TTB's which have the power to turn 5 mountains into dust...and then made a gigantic TBB that matched the power of 5 bijuu combined TBB, and redirected it...
 

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No I'm pretty sure it only said something about Obito.

Nope, Minato said: "If hes anything like Madara, he cant tame Kyuubi for long". Im too lazy to search for it, but you can trust that Im not making it up, you can check that yourself.
 
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Perfect Susanoo wins. Ask Madara, you can't deny a fact, Naruto's writer has already broken too many rules he made.
 

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of course PS is stronger right now. it destroyed a mountain and a slash easily took down 5 kages, most of whom have super strong defenses.
 

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By feats, I can't see how Perfect Susano'o can be considered the favourite here.
 

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I would agree BM > PS

But Madara didnt use it again because he is too prideful, plus the wood dragon would work better as it can just absorb the chakra
 

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I will just quote myself from my previous post, lol.

That massive compression of chakra took a certain amount of time to charge. Look at my post again; it takes both speed and power into account. PS wins here because the slash is extremely quick, unlike that charged BD.
 

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Nope, Minato said: "If hes anything like Madara, he cant tame Kyuubi for long". Im too lazy to search for it, but you can trust that Im not making it up, you can check that yourself.

Sigh. The pic you showed me said Kuchiyose. Kuchiyose means summoning. In the context Minato was using it he meant if I keep Madara away from the Kyuubi his control won't last that long.
 

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Am i missing something here? Didn't Madara say that PS is *comparable* to the power of a Bijuu? That means he is around the level of Shukaku maybe even below.
 

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That massive compression of chakra took a certain amount of time to charge. Look at my post again; it takes both speed and power into account. PS wins here because the slash is extremely quick, unlike that charged BD.
But Bijuu Mode can own a mountain with swing of its tail. I dont see how thats inferior to PS.
In the context Minato was using it he meant if I keep Madara away from the Kyuubi his control won't last that long.
Sorry, but Minato never said anything about keeping Madara away from the Kyuubi. He only wanted to keep him away from the village, becuase as he said it would only cause more chaos on the battlefield.
 

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But Bijuu Mode can own a mountain with swing of its tail. I dont see how thats inferior to PS.

Sorry, but Minato never said anything about keeping Madara away from the Kyuubi. He only wanted to keep him away from the village, becuase as he said it would only cause more chaos on the battlefield.

It was also said the 9 tails could start a Tsunami with the swing of its tail. And Naruto restrained 5 tailed beasts with its tails.
 
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