yagura

[~Sovereign~]

logically, yagura isnt a perfect host

danzo says here that yagura can control bijuu but danzo says "said to have" which means he is going by what he heard -

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this is more proof, kurama basically says killer bee and 8 tails are the only ones that got alone -

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^^ this proves yagura isnt friends with his bijuu only killer bee and naruto are

hashirama, madara, obito and yamato can control/tame bijuu but none of them are friends with bijuu like naruto and killer bee are

yagura cant do anything with bijuu, he was being controlled probably his whole life, he cant break any genjutsu until the bijuu decides to help you break it, like naruto couldnt get out of genjutsu until now...there is no one to break yagura's genjutsu so he was controlled until he died

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madara or obito has been controlling yagura from the shadows to make the world think he was a perfect host when he really isnt friends with his bijuu, he was being controlled by madara or obito, people who can control/tame bijuu...this is obviously why becoming friends with a bijuu is better than controlling it

 

[Hipster Madara]

Yes, I agree. And?

 

['Nāpalm]

agreed... but what is the gist of your statement?

 

[Sir Blades]

well there is fault in your post, having control does not necessarily mean he has to be friends with the beast, it just means that he has control, similar to what naruto did in beginning of confining the jinchuriki arc.

 

[~Sovereign~]

agreed... but what is the gist of your statement?

Yes, I agree. And?

to prove he wasnt a perfect host like naruto and killer bee

alot of people think naruto and killer bee can be effected by genjutsu like yagura was, so i made this thread for them

 

[~Sovereign~]

well there is fault in your post, having control does not necessarily mean he has to be friends with the beast, it just means that he has control, similar to what naruto did in beginning of confining the jinchuriki arc.

thats not having control

naruto TOOK the kyuubi's chakra and made km mode

 

[Merita]

Maybe he was in control of Isobu, like Naruto in Kyubi Mode, but not best friends, like Naruto in Bijuu Mode.

 

[DESTRUCTO]

Plus Danzo said "maybe the fourth Mizukage Yagura". In a way Gaara kind of learned to control his. It just means they keep it from taking over and going on a rampage.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Maybe he was in control of Isobu, like Naruto in Kyubi Mode, but not best friends, like Naruto in Bijuu Mode.

naruto wasnt controlling kyuubi with km mode

km mode is simply the chakra that naruto took from the kyuubi when they fought

 

[~Sovereign~]

Plus Danzo said "maybe the fourth Mizukage Yagura". In a way Gaara kind of learned to control his. It just means they keep it from taking over and going on a rampage.

all jinchuriki does that....and gaara had no control over his bijuu

 

[Sir Blades]

you are just reading a bit too much in to the text of the manga.

 

[KillerSageBro]

I strongly agree with bladesofchaos360 coz its mainly about getting the tailed beast under control U_U

 

[BlacLord™]

naruto wasnt controlling kyuubi with km mode

km mode is simply the chakra that naruto took from the kyuubi when they fought

Of course it's taking control. To take control is to become a wielder. Naruto took Kurama's chakra and started wielding it, he fought and defeated Kurama to take control of his chakra.

Another perfect example is if someone takes a sword from someone, they have control of it and consequently, wield it.

 

[Ōkami]

i don't see what you're getting at please tell me

 

[~Sovereign~]

I strongly agree with bladesofchaos360 coz its mainly about getting the tailed beast under control U_U

having a bijuu under control is not the same as have the bijuu give you all of its power and fight with you willingly

when obito control kurama, did you see obito using bm mode?? no

you are just reading a bit too much in to the text of the manga.

no i just comprehend

 

[~Sovereign~]

Of course it's taking control. To take control is to become a wielder. Naruto took Kurama's chakra and started wielding it, he fought and defeated Kurama to take control of his chakra.

Another perfect example is if someone takes a sword from someone, they have control of it and consequently, wield it.

km mode is naruto use the chakra that he TOOK

BM mode is naruto actually using the kyuubi and kyuubi helping naruto back to go all out

i don't see what you're getting at please tell me

look at post #5

 

[zinescience]

So,Basically it is obito that controlled the 3 tails

 

[Sir Blades]

having a bijuu under control is not the same as have the bijuu give you all of its power and fight with you willingly

when obito control kurama, dod you see obito using bm mode?? no


no i just comprehend

naw, i think you are reading a bit too much in to it, danzo stated it, the manga states it so therefore i would like to think that he had control of the three tails you just cant deny that. or else it wouldnt be mentioned.

 

[Champ]

When Kurama said only Bee & the Hachibi were friends, I knew he wasn't a Perfect Jin.

 

[~Sovereign~]

So,Basically it is obito that controlled the 3 tails

exactly

naw, i think you are reading a bit too much in to it, danzo stated it, the manga states it so therefore i would like to think that he had control of the three tails you just cant deny that. or else it wouldnt be mentioned.

did you read?? danzo said "said to have" which mean danzo is going by what he HEARD, like the rest of the world

kisame didnt even know his own boss mizukage was being control so how would danzo know??

When Kurama said only Bee & the Hachibi were friends, I knew he wasn't a Perfect Jin.

people dont understand that