Sasuke's talk of revenge is not justified

[new sage of 6 paths]

We all know sasuke has been pursuing revenge since day 1.he has gotten two victims,itachi and danzo.but what's the use,why is he being all biased and one sided,naruto lost his father and mother to kurama,but still kurama and naruto are best buddies.Don't tell me that Naruto never had any family,so he doesn't feel any pain when he lost them.what about MITO AND KUSHINA,they lost their WHOLE CLAN in an entire day,kushina and mito forgot about the past and set their goal for the future,even Naruto got past that as if nothing eve happened.infact,wasn't the uchia that where plotting a coup,if it happened more peoples life would have been caught in the unreasonable mess.sasuke already got most of his revenge,he should man up,because the elders follow danzo's every whim,basically they had no say.sasuke should be a man and stop making sad faces,its a shinobi world,many people losed loved ones,if he is to become the uchiha that will stop their circle of hatred,he should start acting instead of moping around,most uhiha have been obsessed wit revenge,saauke should distinguish himself.

Pls no insults,its a new year,and I aint gonna get caught in flames.

 

[obito777]

So what would you do if you were sasuke then?

 

[sasukeultimateninja]

Dude,either you are not current with the mangas or you are still dwelling in the past.sasuke no longer has interest in revenge anymore.ever since itachi showed him the truth.it is like he has no reason to dwell in revenge. Orochimaru even testified to that.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

I will get revenge on the people who orchesterated it which are itachi,danzo,and tobi,which sasuke has almost done.no need to wipe an entire village of the map.

 

[obito777]

Dude,either you are not current with the mangas or you are still dwelling in the past.sasuke no longer has interest in revenge anymore.ever since itachi showed him the truth.it is like he has no reason to dwell in revenge. Orochimaru even testified to that.

No, he stills want revenge but he wants to know everything in order to see how he should get about it in his own way with his own will.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Dude,either you are not current with the mangas or you are still dwelling in the past.sasuke no longer has interest in revenge anymore.ever since itachi showed him the truth.it is like he has no reason to dwell in revenge. Orochimaru even testified to that.

Then what did sasuke tell his brother after he came back as Edotensei,besides sasuke is still bent on revenge.

 

[obito777]

I will get revenge on the people who orchesterated it which are itachi,danzo,and tobi,which sasuke has almost done.no need to wipe an entire village of the map.

It still doesn't change the fact that in sasuke's mind everyone in the village that made his life hell is living life up while he have to watch and remember everything that he used to have before it was taken away from him.

 

[Xlad]

Wth are you talking about? The fact that the Uchiha is planning a coup doesn't guarantee Danzo or those shady bastards rights to kill almost all of them, especially the mothers and children. The village's shady root shouldn't have destroy the Uchiha, especially forcing one of their own to do so. There are other measures to stop the coup besides violence. They both have led tragic lives, Sasuke witnessed everything Itachi was forced to do while Naruto just collected hatred from his villagers and being alone by himself from the start.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

It still doesn't change the fact that in sasuke's mind everyone in the village that made his life hell is living life up while he have to watch and remember everything that he used to have before it was taken away from him.

Everone had everything taken away from them,even naruto

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Wth are you talking about? The fact that the Uchiha is planning a coup doesn't guarantee Danzo or those shady bastards rights to kill almost all of them, especially the mothers and children. The village's shady root shouldn't have destroy the Uchiha, especially forcing one of their own to do so. There are other measures to stop the coup besides violence. They both have led tragic lives, Sasuke witnessed everything Itachi was forced to do while Naruto just collected hatred from his villagers and being alone by himself from the start.

And sasuke has gotten most of his revenge,serously,what will it accomplish deatroying a village,self satisfaction maybe?

 

[obito777]

Everone had everything taken away from them,even naruto

And he should had gotten revenge too

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

We all know sasuke has been pursuing revenge since day 1.he has gotten two victims,itachi and danzo.but what's the use,why is he being all biased and one sided,naruto lost his father and mother to kurama,but still kurama and naruto are best buddies.Don't tell me that Naruto never had any family,so he doesn't feel any pain when he lost them.what about MITO AND KUSHINA,they lost their WHOLE CLAN in an entire day,kushina and mito forgot about the past and set their goal for the future,even Naruto got past that as if nothing eve happened.infact,wasn't the uchia that where plotting a coup,if it happened more peoples life would have been caught in the unreasonable mess.sasuke already got most of his revenge,he should man up,because the elders follow danzo's every whim,basically they had no say.sasuke should be a man and stop making sad faces,its a shinobi world,many people losed loved ones,if he is to become the uchiha that will stop their circle of hatred,he should start acting instead of moping around,most uhiha have been obsessed wit revenge,saauke should distinguish himself.

Pls no insults,its a new year,and I aint gonna get caught in flames.

Well don't make sasuke thread and not expect to get flamed its that simple.And in case you have not been reading the manga sasuke already began distinguishing his revenge and hatred try to stay updated and your threads wont suck lol

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Well don't make sasuke thread and not expect to get flamed its that simple.And in case you have not been reading the manga sasuke already began distinguishing his revenge and hatred try to stay updated and your threads wont suck lol

I don't like insult.and am updated,the last time sasuke saw his brother,he said that seeing him once again makes him even hate the leaf more,and he was just weighing his options to see how to go about his revenge.and my thread doesn't suck.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

And he should had gotten revenge too

Everyone is not sasuke,and vice-versa to naruto,but sasuke has done enough,destroying hideen leaf won't acomplish anything,it won't brin back his clan.

 

[TheCCV]

If you ask me, he should be aiming for the village elders and hokages. The villagers knew nothing about it, nor did they find the Uchiha massacre a joyous event. It was devastating news for everybody, except for of course, the higher ups in the village since they were the ones who edged on Itachi to do it.

 

[Xlad]

And sasuke has gotten most of his revenge,serously,what will it accomplish deatroying a village,self satisfaction maybe?

I never stated or implied that he should destroy the ENTIRE Village. If he wants to get revenge, put it on the root and elders instead. He doesn't want to destroy the village out of self-satisfaction, but because of how they treated his clan. What I'm saying is that he should tone it down at least. You have to understand that the Uchiha plans a coup to stop the oppressive BS Tobirama pulled. He shouldn't have oppressed the entire clan jut because of what Madara did. They are no better against each tbh. U_U

Like Itachi said "It's wrong on what he is doing, but it is also wrong to just blame him."

 

[Sasunarufan13]

Just like every person is unique, so are the characters. It's not because Naruto is always willing to forgive everyone (which isn't even realistic considering how he's been treated in the past) that that means Sasuke should do the same. And while Naruto doesn't have any parents or family at all, he doesn't experience the same pain that Sasuke goes through. Sasuke had parents until he was seven, eight years old; he had finally started to gain his father's approval and then he comes home to find everyone dead, and his brother makes him relive everything before blocking some of his memories. That sort of thing leaves a mark behind.

Plus Itachi told Sasuke he needed hatred to gain his revenge. After Sasuke killed Itachi, he got to hear the truth about everything which left him feeling unbalanced, because everything he thought to be true up until that point turned out to be a lie. The brother he had grown to hate because he seemingly snapped and killed the entire clan, turned out to be still the same brother he loved and had strived to be like because he wanted to protect his little brother. Itachi gave up his reputation and his future, to ensure that peace would stay in Konoha and to make sure his brother was save.

How do you think someone will react when he hears all that? Do you think he'll be like "Oh well, this sucks, but I suppose I can just go back to the village where my entire clan was killed and feel happy for the rest of my life"?

It's natural that he wants revenge - and considering the Uchiha clan's history in drenched in blood and violence, it's easy to see why Sasuke would fall in the same trap.

No, it's not logical to kill an entire village - but that's exactly the same thing that happened to his clan. There were innocent people in his clan as well that got killed like the ones who were trying to stage a coupe. Danzo and the Elders didn't differentiate between the guilty and innocent clan members, so Sasuke wants to operate with the same thought: why distinguish between the guilty ones who ordered his brother to kill the clan and the innocent ones when his clan didn't get the same privilege?
He wants them to feel the pain he had to go through when he heard the truth.

Not everything is black and white. For someone who grew up with the thought that only revenge and hatred would get him what he wanted, it's not easy to go back from that path. He seems to be rethinking his earlier thought of revenge, but that doesn't mean he should just suddenly do a switch and be all happy and forgiving to everyone. Naruto may be able to do that (though admittedly he's also a bit naive and a bit too forgiving if you ask me) but that doesn't mean Sasuke is able to.

Everybody reacts different to certain situations. Everyone deals with traumatic experiences in different ways. I find Sasuke's way more believable (though I don't say it's justified, because it isn't) than Naruto's way, but maybe that's just me

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

When i read your thread you mention about Sasuke's alternative plans when he made a small alliance with Obito. Stop using the whole leaf village being whipped out, because Sasuke perhaps will abandon the task of destroying it. Also, you get flamed because you compare Naruto to Sasuke. You can't compare them except on their solitude and ability to understand each other. Sasuke's life has been full of traumatic situations that he couldn't cope in the aftermath. I will agree that Sasuke should change and man up at some point. Last, the difference between Naruto losing his parents and Mito/Kushina losing their clan is pointless to argue. Sasuke puts sad faces because of the new revelations of each discovery he makes. Ex: Itachi being a good guy all along tormented Sasuke. The other clans didn't have your brother or sister constantly remind you of revenge. Naruto, Mito, and Kushina didn't have the perpetrator remind them of their lost ones.

 

[Voltron]

If your parents were killed, would you want to kill the person who killed them?

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Just like every person is unique, so are the characters. It's not because Naruto is always willing to forgive everyone (which isn't even realistic considering how he's been treated in the past) that that means Sasuke should do the same. And while Naruto doesn't have any parents or family at all, he doesn't experience the same pain that Sasuke goes through. Sasuke had parents until he was seven, eight years old; he had finally started to gain his father's approval and then he comes home to find everyone dead, and his brother makes him relive everything before blocking some of his memories. That sort of thing leaves a mark behind.

Plus Itachi told Sasuke he needed hatred to gain his revenge. After Sasuke killed Itachi, he got to hear the truth about everything which left him feeling unbalanced, because everything he thought to be true up until that point turned out to be a lie. The brother he had grown to hate because he seemingly snapped and killed the entire clan, turned out to be still the same brother he loved and had strived to be like because he wanted to protect his little brother. Itachi gave up his reputation and his future, to ensure that peace would stay in Konoha and to make sure his brother was save.

How do you think someone will react when he hears all that? Do you think he'll be like "Oh well, this sucks, but I suppose I can just go back to the village where my entire clan was killed and feel happy for the rest of my life"?

It's natural that he wants revenge - and considering the Uchiha clan's history in drenched in blood and violence, it's easy to see why Sasuke would fall in the same trap.

No, it's not logical to kill an entire village - but that's exactly the same thing that happened to his clan. There were innocent people in his clan as well that got killed like the ones who were trying to stage a coupe. Danzo and the Elders didn't differentiate between the guilty and innocent clan members, so Sasuke wants to operate with the same thought: why distinguish between the guilty ones who ordered his brother to kill the clan and the innocent ones when his clan didn't get the same privilege?
He wants them to feel the pain he had to go through when he heard the truth.

Not everything is black and white. For someone who grew up with the thought that only revenge and hatred would get him what he wanted, it's not easy to go back from that path. He seems to be rethinking his earlier thought of revenge, but that doesn't mean he should just suddenly do a switch and be all happy and forgiving to everyone. Naruto may be able to do that (though admittedly he's also a bit naive and a bit too forgiving if you ask me) but that doesn't mean Sasuke is able to.

Everybody reacts different to certain situations. Everyone deals with traumatic experiences in different ways. I find Sasuke's way more believable (though I don't say it's justified, because it isn't) than Naruto's way, but maybe that's just me

Many people experienced the pain he whent through,example is yugao and hayate,baki is still alive in fact,mito had loved ones too in uzushogakure,so does kushinam.so the stuff about sasuke losing everything he had is invalid(and what u said about naruto,that's why I dint include him).if he truly loves and respect his brother,he will honour his wishes,am in no way saying sasuke should go back to konoha,just saying he should wise up.