SM Jiraiya vs Kakuzu

[JIRAIYA perv]

Can't believe Kakazu is winning this poll.

Jiraiya mid-high diff. In SM Jiraiya can easily avoid Kakazu's attacks and has attacks that are more than powerful enough to destroy his hearts.

Naruto's rasenshuriken destroyed like 3 hearts in 1 hit. I'd think the giant ass rasengan J-man can do would destroy at least 2, and I don't think he'd have that much trouble hitting Kakazu in SM. With SM he'll be quite a bit faster than Kakazu.

exactly friend, jiraiya would be too much in SM (an overkill in my opinion), thats why i don't even see the point of this match up. again kakuzu cant keep up with jiraiya's speed and raw power in SM so basic punches and kick would mess him up (and i still didn't include jiraiya's jutsu witch will put an end to the fight).

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Can't believe Kakazu is winning this poll.

Jiraiya mid-high diff. In SM Jiraiya can easily avoid Kakazu's attacks and has attacks that are more than powerful enough to destroy his hearts.

Naruto's rasenshuriken destroyed like 3 hearts in 1 hit. I'd think the giant ass rasengan J-man can do would destroy at least 2, and I don't think he'd have that much trouble hitting Kakazu in SM. With SM he'll be quite a bit faster than Kakazu.

The poll speaks for itself, not everyone over looks Kakuzu's feats simply because he is up against a SM character. Saying words like Easy, Inferior, and etc is like comparing Ino to Madara. But That is not the cast they are both powerful opponents that will take time to take each other out High Diff.

Kakuzu had 3 hearts left against. Naruto destroyed his body cells, thus he wasn't able to move anymore and 2 hearts was destroyed. The last heart was killed from Kakashi.
Kakuzu still has Domu in this battle and OP didn't restricted it so Domu Domu is in play in this battle. J man Big Rasengan can kill 2 hearts if they were bundle up together. With Domu activated, not a chance, his hearts are safe inside, that would go with a rasenshuriken were to clash with Domu Domu. Making a Vs thread with all their feats coming into play makes the battle different then what can display in the manga.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

The poll speaks for itself, not everyone over looks Kakuzu's feats simply because he is up against a SM character. Saying words like Easy, Inferior, and etc is like comparing Ino to Madara. But That is not the cast they are both powerful opponents that will take time to take each other out High Diff.

Kakuzu had 3 hearts left against. Naruto destroyed his body cells, thus he wasn't able to move anymore and 2 hearts was destroyed. The last heart was killed from Kakashi.
Kakuzu still has Domu in this battle and OP didn't restricted it so Domu Domu is in play in this battle. J man Big Rasengan can kill 2 hearts if they were bundle up together. With Domu activated, not a chance, his hearts are safe inside, that would go with a rasenshuriken were to clash with Domu Domu. Making a Vs thread with all their feats coming into play makes the battle different then what can display in the manga.

sure buddy .... ya keep role playing as if you are kakuzu coz once people start comparing them like that, am out of here .... i can't even believe that the poll turned into kakuzu's favor (seriously ....)

 

[Brother Numpsay]

sure buddy .... ya keep role playing as if you are kakuzu coz once people start comparing them like that, am out of here .... i can't even believe that the poll turned into kakuzu's favor (seriously

Where have I made a fanfic response. All I have shown was showned Kakuzu feats and what he can do and counter. Then made a conclusion on why.

You making it seem like I am doing this:

Ok, Jiraiya starts in SM, huh?

So this is how the fight goes. Kakuzu charges while unwrapping his arms to attack. Jiraiya dashes and intercepts the attack like he did with human-path. Kakuzu goes flying back but saves himself with iron skin. Jiraiya uses sage art wild Lion's mane to chase Kakuzu. While dodging, shadow clone Jiraiya appears behind Kakuzu with Ultimate Rasengan. Kakuzu falls to the ground with 1-2 hearts gone. Before Kakuzu regains conciousness, he opens his eyes to find himself inside toad mouth trap. Then he's either interrogated then killed, or just killed.

In conclusion, this isn't a fight. This is more of a survivability trial for Kakuzu, which he would horribly fail at.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

The poll speaks for itself, not everyone over looks Kakuzu's feats simply because he is up against a SM character. Saying words like Easy, Inferior, and etc is like comparing Ino to Madara. But That is not the cast they are both powerful opponents that will take time to take each other out High Diff.

Kakuzu had 3 hearts left against. Naruto destroyed his body cells, thus he wasn't able to move anymore and 2 hearts was destroyed. The last heart was killed from Kakashi.
Kakuzu still has Domu in this battle and OP didn't restricted it so Domu Domu is in play in this battle. J man Big Rasengan can kill 2 hearts if they were bundle up together. With Domu activated, not a chance, his hearts are safe inside, that would go with a rasenshuriken were to clash with Domu Domu. Making a Vs thread with all their feats coming into play makes the battle different then what can display in the manga.

Yeah you're vastly overrating the power of domu domu. Against techniques like Jiraiyas Giant Rasengan and Naruto's Rasenshuriken it wouldn't provide much defense at all. Did you really say that it would defend against a rasenshuriken? You're crazy bro.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Yeah you're vastly overrating the power of domu domu. Against techniques like Jiraiyas Giant Rasengan and Naruto's Rasenshuriken it wouldn't provide much defense at all. Did you really say that it would defend against a rasenshuriken? You're crazy bro.

Yeah you're vastly overrating the power of domu domu. Against techniques like Jiraiyas Giant Rasengan and Naruto's Rasenshuriken it wouldn't provide much defense at all. Did you really say that it would defend against a rasenshuriken? You're crazy bro.

Maybe you don't understand Domu Domu:

Earth Release: Earth Spear* (土遁・土矛, Doton: Domu)
Ninjutsu, B-rank, Supplementary
User: Kakuzu

A body like diamond, repelling everything!!

With the chakra flowing through all parts of one's body, the skin is hardened, increasing its defence power to its utmost limits. Furthermore, the destructive power of human bullet attacks** is increased, making this a great all-purpose technique. The amount of techniques that can break through the areas hardened by the "Earth Spear" are close to zero, not including its undeniable weak point: "Lightning Release Ninjutsu".

[picture of Kakuzu's arm turning dark]
←With one hit of Kakuzu's hardened fist, the gates of the Temple of Fire are destroyed.

[picture of Kakuzu's face being cut by Raidou's sword]
↑By invoking this technique the instant an attack hits, one gains an immortal body.

*The names of Kakuzu's techniques don't make much sense at first sight. This is because Kishimoto took the names from the legendary mecha anime "Mobile Suit Gundam" (機動戦士ガンダム, Kidou Senshi Gandamu), slightly altered them in some cases, and thought of kanji for them. Domu comes from the MS-09 Dom (ドム).
**Attacks involving the use of one's own body as a direct weapon. E.g. punches.
Reference: Third Databook, page 290

Here is the same response I gave to this guy:

Ultra-Big Ball Rasengan was said that it can hollow out a Mountain. This is why you expect from this technique. Rasengan is basically a drill tech made with pure chakra. Regular Rasengan can break a piece of rock from a moutain(Or drill a hole depending on it's size)

But comparing a Mountain rocks durability to a Diamond's doesn't help. Rasengan hasn't shown any feats of breaking something as hard as diamond. Rasengan attempting to drill it's way to Kakuzu's Domu (hard like Diamond) skin won't cause some type of serious damage. Even though this tech will plow Kakuzu to the ground, something like this:

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Adding wind into a jutsu doesn't it make it better then Earth. Naruto's rasengan can't cut Diamond

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Where have I made a fanfic response. All I have shown was showned Kakuzu feats and what he can do and counter. Then made a conclusion on why.

You making it seem like I am doing this:

forget it bro, the way we compare characters are different and i wasn't trying to insult you in anyway, but since we view the fights differently then there is no use of debating dont you agree ?? anyways its all good.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

forget it bro, the way we compare characters are different and i wasn't trying to insult you in anyway, but since we view the fights differently then there is no use of debating dont you agree ?? anyways its all good.

I didn't take it as in insult you clearly don't understand how Kakuzu beats J man and thats cool. I'm pretty sure Kisimoto can simply make any of these characters to win. It all depends for the sake of who is more important (leaning toward J-man on this one). But since this is a vs thread that never happened in the manga were are going by feats countering feats.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

Maybe you don't understand Domu Domu:

Earth Release: Earth Spear* (土遁・土矛, Doton: Domu)
Ninjutsu, B-rank, Supplementary
User: Kakuzu

A body like diamond, repelling everything!!

With the chakra flowing through all parts of one's body, the skin is hardened, increasing its defence power to its utmost limits. Furthermore, the destructive power of human bullet attacks** is increased, making this a great all-purpose technique. The amount of techniques that can break through the areas hardened by the "Earth Spear" are close to zero, not including its undeniable weak point: "Lightning Release Ninjutsu".

[picture of Kakuzu's arm turning dark]
←With one hit of Kakuzu's hardened fist, the gates of the Temple of Fire are destroyed.

[picture of Kakuzu's face being cut by Raidou's sword]
↑By invoking this technique the instant an attack hits, one gains an immortal body.

*The names of Kakuzu's techniques don't make much sense at first sight. This is because Kishimoto took the names from the legendary mecha anime "Mobile Suit Gundam" (機動戦士ガンダム, Kidou Senshi Gandamu), slightly altered them in some cases, and thought of kanji for them. Domu comes from the MS-09 Dom (ドム).
**Attacks involving the use of one's own body as a direct weapon. E.g. punches.
Reference: Third Databook, page 290

Here is the same response I gave to this guy:




Adding wind into a jutsu doesn't it make it better then Earth. Naruto's rasengan can't cut Diamond

Lol bro you can quote the databook all day but all we got for this domu domu tech is it stopped chouji's lame ass attack. A Giant Rasengan and a Rasenshuriken are both WAY more powerful than that. There's no way in hell that is stopping a rasenshuriken..you pretty much shot yourself in the foot on that one. As for a giant rasengan i'd say that the chances of it stopping it are low at best.

You can believe what you want though.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Lol bro you can quote the databook all day but all we got for this domu domu tech is it stopped chouji's lame ass attack.

Oh so we have a Joki's type of response, interesting. 2 words: Prove It.

A Giant Rasengan and a Rasenshuriken are both WAY more powerful than that. There's no way in hell that is stopping a rasenshuriken..you pretty much shot yourself in the foot on that one. As for a giant rasengan i'd say that the chances of it stopping it are low at best.


You can believe what you want though.

Your ABC logic already failed by comparison.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

All i said was the ONLY feat we have for this domu domu is it stopped chouji's attack. Obviously he failed to use it to stop other attacks as he eventually lost and died. Why didn't he use it against Naruto when he used the rasenshuriken? What makes you think he's going to use this technique every single time SM jiraiya gets a hit in?

If Naruto could hit him with a rasenshuriken(base naruto) I see no reason why SM Jiraiya would have a hard time hitting Kakazu. It's stupid and illogical to say "Well he can use domu domu it defends all" because that's not how it played out in the manga and probably wouldn't be how it would play out in a fight against SM Jiraiya. You fail.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Kakuzu is found 54 days later, at the bottom of a hole, covered if toad poo.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

All i said was the ONLY feat we have for this domu domu is it stopped chouji's attack.
Woah you are pretty confident the capitalize "ONLY", I'll show you more (with the little screen time Kakuzu had):

Choji is 1.

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Buijuu is 2.

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A kunai attempt to pierce and explode on him, that's 3.

Obviously he failed to use it to stop other attacks as he eventually lost and died.
Because of lightening element. That is why Kisimoto's databook makes it an important factor

Why didn't he use it against Naruto when he used the rasenshuriken?
After Kakashi breaking 1/5 heart with lighting he wasn't able to pull it off anymore, thus his hearts are better off roaming free and firing elemental bazookas
What makes you think he's going to use this technique every single time SM jiraiya gets a hit in?
Manga shows he uses it whenever he is endangered from a major damage

If Naruto could hit him with a rasenshuriken(base naruto) I see no reason why SM Jiraiya would have a hard time hitting Kakazu.
No Domu and simply because Kakuzu over analyzed the situation. Naruto tricked him. This is a different battle, different opponent, each character starting with all their feats in play

It's stupid and illogical to say "Well he can use domu domu it defends all" because that's not how it played out in the manga and probably wouldn't be how it would play out in a fight against SM Jiraiya. You fail.

That it was how it played in the manga and Kisimoto clarified it it in his own databook about Domu, and how to counter Domu. You fail.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

Manga showed him use it one time dude. Literally once. Not whenever he was endangered. If you really think that Jiraiya is going to continuously be shot down and unable to hurt Kakazu because of this one earth element technique you're a moron.

Yeah Naruto tricked him....****in Naruto. What makes you think Jiraiya would be unable to do the same thing. It IS illogical to think he's going to be able to use the domu against every offensive attack Jiraiya uses, you're just a fanboy who is determined to prove Kakazu would win this fight for whatever reason, probably because no one gives a shit about Kakazu.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Manga showed him use it one time dude. Literally once. Not whenever he was endangered.
I showed you three didn't I, why are you ignoring them?

If you really think that Jiraiya is going to continuously be shot down and unable to hurt Kakazu because of this one earth element technique you're a moron.
Where did I say Kakuzu solo's through one jutsu, you weren't here when I post this but this was my conclusion from previous post:
"Kakuzu has wide radius of elemental bazooka's, that can come from different direction. Jingou will be a problem too. Taking out 5 hearts is not a simple task, Kakuzu will soon take his heart, with this.

-Not breaking Domu protects Kakuzu's 5 hearts (hearts have a safe base), J-mans raw strength will not deal damage to Domu Domu, without frog song, he has nothing in his arsenal to break it.


Yeah Naruto tricked him....****in Naruto.
What I read: "I underrate Naruto so there fore your argument is invalid. What Kakzu did was brillent, why waste time foddering shadow clones when you can go after the main body? That is exactly what he did:

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Then Kakuzu makes a decision what how he wants to do now:

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What makes you think Jiraiya would be unable to do the same thing. It IS illogical to think he's going to be able to use the domu against every offensive attack Jiraiya uses, you're just a fanboy who is determined to prove Kakazu would win this fight for whatever reason, probably because no one gives a shit about Kakazu.

It's illogical to say J man has the same mind and same tatics as Naruto. Every offense attack can be blocked, cancel, or counter by Kakuzu's elemetnal attacks and Domu protects him being dangered by any physical attacks.

"you're just a fanboy who is determined to prove Kakazu would win this fight for whatever reason, probably because no one gives a shit about Kakazu."

I have backed up everything I have said, unfortunate this sentence made you look very ignorant and was self defeating.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

Nah my eyes are open. No one cares about Kakazu, need a tissue?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

MY counters were debunked, therefore I will result into insults and hopefully he will try to feel bad, about a fictional character

Ok.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

Lol my counters weren't "debunked" you just repeated your domu argument until it got boring and i just started making fun of kakazu. Every one of jiraiya's attacks can be blocked, canceled, or countered by kakazu? Care to go through his entire jutsu list and prove that? I doubt it.

I never said Jiraiya has the same mind and tactics as Naruto. However he is very experienced and is known worldwide and feared because of it. No doubt he could figure out a way to hurt Kakazu, you underestimate Jiraiya.

Domu doesn't counter every deathblow that Jiraiya Could potentially hit Kakazu with. What would Kakazu do if he was summoned into the toads stomach like Itachi and Kisame were? Can he Domu his way out of it? Amaterasu? Oh wait, all kakazu has is elemental attacks. He'd have no answer for that. I'm not retarded though so I'm not going to say "Toad stomach, game" like you have basically said "Domu, game"

I like how the toad genjutsu wasn't included in the thread. Perhaps to tip the favor in Kakazu, because he'd have no chance if it was allowed.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Lol my counters weren't "debunked" you just repeated your domu argument
I repeating that it's not gonna work against Rasengan and Physical attacks.

until it got boring and i just started making fun of kakazu. Every one of jiraiya's attacks can be blocked, canceled, or countered by kakazu? Care to go through his entire jutsu list and prove that? I doubt it.
This is why I making a debate in the first place, so go ahead

I never said Jiraiya has the same mind and tactics as Naruto. However he is very experienced and is known worldwide and feared because of it. No doubt he could figure out a way to hurt Kakazu, you underestimate Jiraiya.

Of course it can find a way but in what feat he has shown. And what about Kakuzu's experiece, and the reason Akatsuki wanted him?

Domu doesn't counter every deathblow that Jiraiya Could potentially hit Kakazu with. What would Kakazu do if he was summoned into the toads stomach like Itachi and Kisame were? Can he Domu his way out of it? Amaterasu? Oh wait, all kakazu has is elemental attacks. He'd have no answer for that. I'm not retarded though so I'm not going to say "Toad stomach, game" like you have basically said "Domu, game"
Then you are assuming that Kakuzu is in the same location/battlefield Itachi and Kisame were, a hallway hotel? And why do you make a claim that only Amatseru is the only way to escape?. Toad stomach requires a cave-in battle environment so it's not even a spamable move

I like how the toad genjutsu wasn't included in the thread. Perhaps to tip the favor in Kakazu, because he'd have no chance if it was allowed.

Its dumb restricting characters move but if it was not then Kakuzu dies one time, then four more kills to go. (Which result to a free surprise attack, since both don't have knowledge on each other)

 

[LORDLORDZA]

SM Jiraiya vs Kakuzu
jiraiya wins with the 2 toad it absorbing chakara it like unlimited chakara if kakuzu release is heart to fight jiraiya can summon all the frog them to fight . Jiraiya wins