Naruto>obito

[ianeustaquio]

This.
Obito screws 99,99% of Narutoverse in 1vs1.

Naruto was only using KM when battling Obito.Stakes could have changed if he used BM.

 

[ianeustaquio]

Simple, it was INTANT.
Sharingan detection.
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He can't deflect continuous Tbb's from those five.

Hachibi assisted him in that fight.

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Naruto's speed,in close range,is almost an instant.Obito couldn't evade nor predict speeds of that level.
And Naruto intended to remove the black rods inserted on each of the Jinchurikis.Naruto could have gone head to head along with the frogs if he wants to take them out.

Im not saying that Frogs>2,3,5,6,7 tailed beast,I'm saying that the Frogs could aid Kurama in battling those 5.

 

[Frikid]

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obito clearly stated that minato teleported.
it is not blitzing. it is teleportation.

your turn

 

[ianeustaquio]

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obito clearly stated that minato teleported.
it is not blitzing. it is teleportation.

your turn

Again in a close range,BM Naruto's immense speed is almost an instant(Like a teleportation).Look at how Naruto avoided Raikage's Fastest Punch.Only Minato and Naruto avoided it.He can hit Obito in a close combat,thus countering Kamui.He can also get away from Kamui with reflexes beyond Minato's.

Plus,Naruto already know how Kamui works so I assume Obito can't get Naruto with a Kamui.

 

[KidGamer65]

Frog Summons are taken out by Gedo Mazo with little difficulty while Obito and his Six Bijuu take on Naruto. BM Naruto's TBB was more or less equal to the 5 Bijuu's TBB, add the 4-Tails' TBB in and they overpower Naruto's, and Rasengan is blocked by the Gunbai.

Speed Blitz isn't going to help Naruto hit Obito at all. Even if he uses his speed to get to him, he still needs to attack first and in that split second right before he attacks, Obito goes intangible and evades the attack. Also if Naruto's speed blitz lets him hit Obito, why didn't he just do that? Why are they relying on Kakashi to counter Kamui? Naruto can't replicate what Minato did as Minato used instant teleportation.

 

[ianeustaquio]

Frog Summons are taken out by Gedo Mazo with little difficulty while Obito and his Six Bijuu take on Naruto. BM Naruto's TBB was more or less equal to the 5 Bijuu's TBB, add the 4-Tails' TBB in and they overpower Naruto's, and Rasengan is blocked by the Gunbai.

Speed Blitz isn't going to help Naruto hit Obito at all. Even if he uses his speed to get to him, he still needs to attack first and in that split second right before he attacks, Obito goes intangible and evades the attack. Also if Naruto's speed blitz lets him hit Obito, why didn't he just do that? Why are they relying on Kakashi to counter Kamui? Naruto can't replicate what Minato did as Minato used instant teleportation.

Obito can't use Gedo and the Bijuus at the same time.If he can,he could have use it against Kurama when battling the other Bijuus.
And I assume only Madara can use gunbai since the fan belongs to him.Also in a close range,Naruto's speed is almost an instant enough to counter Kamui.
Then look at what Kakashi said."Sensei . .?"
He literally thought it was Minato because of his immense speed(almost an instant,like a teleportation).
A speed enough to deflect 5 TBB's.

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[BEASTLY NARUTO]

Obito can't use Gedo and the Bijuus at the same time.If he can,he could have use it against Kurama when battling the other Bijuus.
And I assume only Madara can use gunbai since the fan belongs to him.Also in a close range,Naruto's speed is almost an instant enough to counter Kamui.
Then look at what Kakashi said."Sensei . .?"
He literally thought it was Minato because of his immense speed(almost an instant,like a teleportation).
A speed enough to deflect 5 TBB's.

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you know, what amazese me is that even with an almost instant speed naruto could barely hit him.it purely unfair.kamui/his dimaterializing was not stated to be instant e.g konan vs tobi/obito.but now we see him doing it instantly.i don't just get it.

 

[ianeustaquio]

you know, what amazese me is that even with an almost instant speed naruto could barely hit him.it purely unfair.kamui was not stated to be instant e.g konan vs tobi/obito.but now we see him doing it instantly.i don't just get it.

At last,someone who gets my point.
I think it really is PNJ.

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

At last,someone who gets my point.
I think it really is PNJ.

lol yeah pure plot hole

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

Frog Summons are taken out by Gedo Mazo with little difficulty while Obito and his Six Bijuu take on Naruto. BM Naruto's TBB was more or less equal to the 5 Bijuu's TBB, add the 4-Tails' TBB in and they overpower Naruto's, and Rasengan is blocked by the Gunbai.

Speed Blitz isn't going to help Naruto hit Obito at all. Even if he uses his speed to get to him, he still needs to attack first and in that split second right before he attacks, Obito goes intangible and evades the attack. Also if Naruto's speed blitz lets him hit Obito, why didn't he just do that? Why are they relying on Kakashi to counter Kamui? Naruto can't replicate what Minato did as Minato used instant teleportation.

lol those things take lots of chakra but though i don't blame you for say those things lol even kishi forgot that obito is not an edo.lol obito has infinite chakra now.you guys fail to understand that obito is the one with plot armor

 

[KidGamer65]

lol those things take lots of chakra but though i don't blame you for say those things lol even kishi forgot that obito is not an edo.lol obito has infinite chakra now.you guys fail to understand that obito is the one with plot armor

Except Obito has already done all of these things and still isn't out of chakra. How does Obito have plot armor on? Why would controlling Bijuu via Rinnegan's Six Paths and Outer Path, along with controlling the Gedo and using Kamui take up all his chakra? Especially when half of his body is made of Senju DNA.

Obito can't use Gedo and the Bijuus at the same time.If he can,he could have use it against Kurama when battling the other Bijuus.
And I assume only Madara can use gunbai since the fan belongs to him.Also in a close range,Naruto's speed is almost an instant enough to counter Kamui.
Then look at what Kakashi said."Sensei . .?"
He literally thought it was Minato because of his immense speed(almost an instant,like a teleportation).
A speed enough to deflect 5 TBB's.

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Well then Obito uses his Mokuton to take out the Frog Summons.

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Obito doesn't need to use Uchiha Gaeshi to block Naruto's Rasengan, as he already nullified his Rasengan with the fan.

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Whatever Kakashi said doesn't change the fact that Naruto can't teleport like Minato can.

I said Naruto's TBB is countered using the 6 Bijuu's TBB, if Naruto is firing his he can't go and hit the other Bijuu's TBB away, and he hit 5 individual TBBs away, not all 6 of them combined into one TBB.

Naruto's speed isn't enough to counter Kamui. Obito instantly becomes intangible, Naruto's speed isn't instant. Also I like how you guys are calling PNJ and Plot Hole cause Naruto can't hit Obito w/o Kakashi's help.

 

[ianeustaquio]

Well then Obito uses his Mokuton to take out the Frog Summons.

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Well that's a genjutsu.He cannot take out all the frog summons,unless he can put them all in that genjutsu.

Obito doesn't need to use Uchiha Gaeshi to block Naruto's Rasengan, as he already nullified his Rasengan with the fan.

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Naruto's speed will take care.

Whatever Kakashi said doesn't change the fact that Naruto can't teleport like Minato can.

We all know that Naruto can't teleport.What I'm saying is with Naruto's immense speed,he is almost teleporting.

Naruto's speed isn't enough to counter Kamui. Obito instantly becomes intangible, Naruto's speed isn't instant. Also I like how you guys are calling PNJ and Plot Hole cause Naruto can't hit Obito w/o Kakashi's help.

Obito's intangibility is instant,we all know that.But Obito's reflexes aren't that fast even with the help of those eyes.Naruto is too fast to be seen.Again,he is almost teleporting.What we have seen in manga is KM Naruto battling Obito.If Naruto is in BM,stakes would have changed.

 

[Frikid]

Again in a close range,BM Naruto's immense speed is almost an instant(Like a teleportation).Look at how Naruto avoided Raikage's Fastest Punch.Only Minato and Naruto avoided it.He can hit Obito in a close combat,thus countering Kamui.He can also get away from Kamui with reflexes beyond Minato's.

Plus,Naruto already know how Kamui works so I assume Obito can't get Naruto with a Kamui.

even light cannot escape a blackhole, and einstein stated that light is the fastest.
naruto is clearly wayyyy too slow than light, so how would he escape the blackhole(kamui) ?
the only way to counter kamui is through another s/t or izanagi.

and since sharingan get predict movements, it doesn't matter how fast is naruto, he isn't instant, and his movements can be predicted. he can get attack by kamui way too easily.

PS : your arguments are just your opinions, you should give facts from databook or manga before you claim them otherwise i wouldn't reply you again.

 

[KidGamer65]

Well that's a genjutsu.He cannot take out all the frog summons,unless he can put them all in that genjutsu.


Naruto's speed will take care.

We all know that Naruto can't teleport.What I'm saying is with Naruto's immense speed,he is almost teleporting.

Obito's intangibility is instant,we all know that.But Obito's reflexes aren't that fast even with the help of those eyes.Naruto is too fast to be seen.Again,he is almost teleporting.What we have seen in manga is KM Naruto battling Obito.If Naruto is in BM,stakes would have changed.

What? That's Mokuton not Genjutsu.

Naruto's speed will take care of what?

Ok then, still not fast enough to catch Obito.

Wrong, Obito needs excellent reflexes to be able to activate Kamui to evade attacks as well as does, it doesn't matter if Naruto can be seen or not while he is in motion because once he goes to strike Obito goes intangible.

 

[ianeustaquio]

even light cannot escape a blackhole, and einstein stated that light is the fastest.
naruto is clearly wayyyy too slow than light, so how would he escape the blackhole(kamui) ?
the only way to counter kamui is through another s/t or izanagi.

and since sharingan get predict movements, it doesn't matter how fast is naruto, he isn't instant, and his movements can be predicted. he can get attack by kamui way too easily.

PS : your arguments are just your opinions, you should give facts from databook or manga before you claim them otherwise i wouldn't reply you again.

Fine then,I get your point.Naruto cannot escape Kamui if Obito take hold of him.Repped
But,can Obito take hold of Naruto.If he cannot,then Kamui would be useless as an offense against Naruto.

What? That's Mokuton not Genjutsu.

Naruto's speed will take care of what?

Ok then, still not fast enough to catch Obito.

Wrong, Obito needs excellent reflexes to be able to activate Kamui to evade attacks as well as does, it doesn't matter if Naruto can be seen or not while he is in motion because once he goes to strike Obito goes intangible.

Well then,can Obito handle 2 BM clones simultaneously attacking ?

 

[KidGamer65]

Well then,can Obito handle 2 BM clones simultaneously attacking ?

Can they hit him? No they can't. Clones get wrecked by the Bijuu or the Mazo anyway.

 

[ianeustaquio]

Can they hit him? No they can't. Clones get wrecked by the Bijuu or the Mazo anyway.

Yes they can.The real Naruto can handle those Bijuu and Mazo since Obito cannot use them at the same time.

 

[KidGamer65]

Yes they can.The real Naruto can handle those Bijuu and Mazo since Obito cannot use them at the same time.

Proof they can? Cause all I have seen you do is cry "speed blitz" this whole time, and not to mention the fact that many characters have already tried feints and have any of them worked? Nope, so don't try to use feints here as a counter to Kamui.

The 6 Bijuu simply fire their TBB at Naruto, which will overpower his own cause as we saw in the manga, Naruto's TBB was equal to the 5 Bijuu's TBB. While the Real Naruto is fighting the Biju. Obito simply destroys any clones that come at him.