Pein Vs. Madara?

[KidGamer65]

Hmm ok try spinning it like this:

Do you think Madera could single handedly defeat kakashi (kage level) anbu, jounins, fodder, Naruto with rasenshurikens, senjutsu, toads and the kyybi?
when in fact he lost to only one person in the past (Hashirama).

No I think he could not do that. Only a rinnegan user could begin to do stuff like that.

That is just more horrible A>B>C logic, doesn't apply here, if you want to use A>B>C logic so bad, go debate on a DBZ forum.

Kakashi isn't touching EMS Madara, neither are those fodders (Anbu, Jonin).

Naruto? SM Naruto isn't scratching Madara's PS.

Kyuubi? Madara simply subdues it with the Sharingan like he did last time.

That one person Madara lost to is much stronger than anyone Pain fought at Konoha.

 

[Midday]

EMS Madara can also summon the Kyuubi, which can beat Gedo Mazo.

Doubt it. Gedo mazo is the Juubi's body and look how easily it's tanked the 8 and 9 tails combined super bjuu dama.

 

[KidGamer65]

Doubt it. Gedo mazo is the Juubi's body and look how easily it's tanked the 8 and 9 tails combined super bjuu dama.

It tanked that after it transformed into the Juubi.

 

[Midday]

It tanked that after it transformed into the Juubi.

It's still the same body which is crazy durable.

 

[binderr]

That is just more horrible A>B>C logic, doesn't apply here, if you want to use A>B>C logic so bad, go debate on a DBZ forum.

Kakashi isn't touching EMS Madara, neither are those fodders (Anbu, Jonin).a[COLOR="#FFFF00"]Naruto? SM Naruto isn't scratching Madara's PS.

Kyuubi? Madara simply subdues it with the Sharingan like he did last time.

That one person Madara lost to is much stronger than anyone Pain fought at Konoha.

ok, because you say so, then?

lol, if SM naruto cant touch PS, how the heck did Hashi??

I think you worship Madara too much.[/COLOR]

 

[binderr]

lol that post went out of hand. I am sorry for the spam not so experienced with these lol.

 

[KidGamer65]

ok, because you say so, then?

lol, if SM naruto cant touch PS, how the heck did Hashi??

I think you worship Madara too much.

Hashirama is FAR stronger than SM Naruto, why would you even make that ridiculous comparison?

Can't prove me wrong with facts so now I worship Madara? Real mature.

Here's a challenge for you, go bring me an attack that SM Naruto or Kakashi has that can even put a scratch on Perfect Susanoo and then I'll get back to you.

 

[binderr]

Hashirama is FAR stronger than SM Naruto, why would you even make that ridiculous comparison?

Can't prove me wrong with facts so now I worship Madara? Real mature.

Here's a challenge for you, go bring me an attack that SM Naruto or Kakashi has that can even put a scratch on Perfect Susanoo and then I'll get back to you.

Ill throw you a challenge too: try think of an attack that Hashirama has that can

 

[KidGamer65]

Ill throw you a challenge too: try think of an attack that Hashirama has that can

Why should I have to do that? Hashirama already took it down so he obviously has an attack or a tactic that brought it down. Obviously we don't know what so I can't give you the attack name, but he has one and to say otherwise is foolish. So I don't have anything to prove as the manga already said he took it down.

How did this get to Hashirama anyway? He has nothing do with the topic.

So, go bring me those attacks SM Naruto and Kakashi can use to scratch PS, since you obviously believe they can.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Pains dogd can survive meteors since it only divides upon impact so dispelling the other paths and having the animal path enter its mouth will protect the path allow it to resummon the rest.

Bansho Teni'n to pull it closer combined with Preta absorption will deal with Perfect Susanoo and normal susanoos.

Preta will deal with all Mokuton, fire techs.

Shared vision will give taijutsu advantage.

Numbers make genjutsu irrelevant.

Also for Madara's own Rinnegan techs, they're basically the same and equal there in that Madara can absorb Pain's jutsu and push/pull his paths(which can be revived) and Pain can repel and pull Madara(who is immortal)

Pain is In control of the Mazo though so he has that on his side...

I say draw U_U

 

[KidGamer65]

It's still the same body which is crazy durable.

I don't know about that, I'm pretty sure once it transforms all of its stats go up, including its durability.

Bee, Naruto, Kakashi, and Guy were able to knock the Mazo down, I doubt that they could do that to the Juubi after it transformed.

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[binderr]

Why should I have to do that? Hashirama already took it down so he obviously has an attack or a tactic that brought it down. Obviously we don't know what so I can't give you the attack name, but he has one and to say otherwise is foolish. So I don't have anything to prove as the manga already said he took it down.

How did this get to Hashirama anyway? He has nothing do with the topic.

[U]So, go bring me those attacks SM Naruto and Kakashi can use to scratch PS, since you obviously believe they can.[/U]

Rasenshuriken for sure. Maybe even a couple of rasengan (Minato based it on the TBB after all, and really the only thing we know about PS is that its power => bijju).

anyway, back to Pain vs Madara: as I said, a sizable enough chibaku tensei will end it right away

 

[KidGamer65]

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Rasenshuriken for sure. Maybe even a couple of rasengan (Minato based it on the TBB after all, and really the only thing we know about PS is that its power => bijju).

anyway, back to Pain vs Madara: as I said, a sizable enough chibaku tensei will end it right away

Rasen Shuriken? Yeah right. PS is FAR bigger than Rasen Shuirken and the explosion made by it.

A couple of Rasengan? You have to be kidding me..Madara's weakest Susanoo tanked Naruto's Chou Oodama Rasengan, no Rasengan is harming PS.

Pain needs to get close enough to Nagato to use CT, and he has to shut off all the paths. Madara's PS Sword Slash's attack range is far to great for Deva to get away and try anything, him and the other paths need to focus on blocking PS swords (it has 2) and it can only block 1 slash in a span of 5 seconds, Madara can swing 2 times in a span of 5 seconds...if Deva tries to make CT he gets killed by the sword slash.

 

[binderr]

Rasen Shuriken? Yeah right. PS is FAR bigger than Rasen Shuirken and the explosion made by it.

A couple of Rasengan? You have to be kidding me..Madara's weakest Susanoo tanked Naruto's Chou Oodama Rasengan, no Rasengan is harming PS.

Pain needs to get close enough to Nagato to use CT, and he has to shut off all the paths. Madara's PS Sword Slash's attack range is far to great for Deva to get away and try anything, him and the other paths need to focus on blocking PS swords (it has 2) and it can only block 1 slash in a span of 5 seconds, Madara can swing 2 times in a span of 5 seconds...if Deva tries to make CT he gets killed by the sword slash.

what do you mean? pain only needs to clap his hands for chibaku, that takes less than a second. when susanoo swings he can simply dodge, he can see chakra with the rinnegan ^^ I think he even could use bansho renin to get madara out of the cage.

 

[KidGamer65]

what do you mean? pain only needs to clap his hands for chibaku, that takes less than a second. when susanoo swings he can simply dodge, he can see chakra with the rinnegan ^^ I think he even could use bansho renin to get madara out of the cage.

He needs to clap his hands, form the ball, and then throw it in the air..then he has to wait until it gets big enough to encase Madara while he is being pulled upward.

Madara's swing slash happens in 1 second, and he can follow up immediately with a second one, that's 2 seconds..CT isn't taking Madara out in 2 seconds but the mountain busting slashes Madara has will take out Deva in 2 seconds.

Where has Deva shown good enough speed feats to evade not 1, but 2 of these in a row?

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He isn't dodging both.

 

[Fanta]

Not really....Nagato himself a person without the Paths while the Paths don't have Nagato fighting with them.

that's Edo Nagato

 

[binderr]

He needs to clap his hands, form the ball, and then throw it in the air..then he has to wait until it gets big enough to encase Madara while he is being pulled upward.

Madara's swing slash happens in 1 second, and he can follow up immediately with a second one, that's 2 seconds..CT isn't taking Madara out in 2 seconds but the mountain busting slashes Madara has will take out Deva in 2 seconds.

Where has Deva shown good enough speed feats to evade not 1, but 2 of these in a row?

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He isn't dodging both.

We dont know how fast PS is. It would be reasonable that it loses speed due to its enormity. On the url you posted we dont see any of the kage getting hit.

 

[KidGamer65]

Look at the last panel of that page, that is PS swinging its sword, right after on page 3 it shows everything in the path of the swing being destroyed. The slash is obviously fast otherwise it wouldn't have occurred in only 1 panel.

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And Madara didn't even try to hit the Kages, he was about to kill them until Edo Tensei interrupted him.

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if its edo madara he takes it mid diff if its ems madara probably a draw imo