er..hachibi's body is probably the bijuu with the softest body.shurikens cut through it easoly,and his chop simply cracked some susanoo ribs in v2,tsunade KO'd 2 complete susanoos with a punch.
it has got the body and horns of an ox and the tentacles of an octopus, tentacles are soft so its no wonder they get cut off easily but the rest of his body isn't soft by any means
it has got the body and horns of an ox and the tentacles of an octopus, tentacles are soft so its no wonder they get cut off easily but the rest of his body isn't soft by any means
it's horns are still not as strong as the ribcage susanoo apparently,as v2 A cracked a few ribs,whereas he cut off the horn completely. So my point still stands.
Btw,not related to this debate,but canyou tell me where it said that all bijuus are equal in the manga if it's actually true?
it's horns are still not as strong as the ribcage susanoo apparently,as v2 A cracked a few ribs,whereas he cut off the horn completely. So my point still stands.
Btw,not related to this debate,but canyou tell me where it said that all bijuus are equal in the manga if it's actually true?
I am not suggesting that raikage has superior strength but rather that raikage can chop tsunade in two pieces by v2 speed blitz, though raikage himself was manhandling susanoo with one hand
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I only remember hachibi saying strength isn't determined by tails when kyuubi suggested that hachibi is stronger than the other seven bijuus and I think it's true when you consider bijuus from one tails to seven tails, hachibi may be stronger than them but kyuubi is definitely stronger than all of them
I am not suggesting that raikage has superior strength but rather that raikage can chop tsunade in two pieces by v2 speed blitz, though raikage himself was manhandling susanoo with one hand
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I only remember hachibi saying strength isn't determined by tails when kyuubi suggested that hachibi is stronger than the other seven bijuus and I think it's true when you consider bijuus from one tails to seven tails, hachibi may be stronger than them but kyuubi is definitely stronger than all of them
I am not suggesting that raikage has superior strength but rather that raikage can chop tsunade in two pieces by v2 speed blitz, though raikage himself was manhandling susanoo with one hand
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I only remember hachibi saying strength isn't determined by tails when kyuubi suggested that hachibi is stronger than the other seven bijuus and I think it's true when you consider bijuus from one tails to seven tails, hachibi may be stronger than them but kyuubi is definitely stronger than all of them
tsunade's body is stronger than you think,light travel tears you to pieces,yet she took it easily,a chop isnt gonna do it,and his chops,like his lariat are very linear,even with their speed,an experienced ninja could counter,iy's just like doing chidori without a sharingan,you have speed and power,but no time to react when countered. Tsunade is the greatest medical nin,and medical nins are trained to evade attacks. She has also gotten much faster than before too,plus her reaction allows her to move and intercept an attack before a kage could form handseals,even A himself cudnt react in time. Blitzing her wont do much,and she will eventually pick on his fighting style due to the fact that his attacks are linear. Look at sasuke and bee,bee was slower in base,but his sword attacks were very unorthodox and sasuke cudnt react,but in v1,where he is much faster,his lariat was very linear,and sasuke reacted in mid air to dodge it.
Raikage's moves are linear and easy to catch on.which is one of the reasons i beleive tsunade wins.
Abt the bijuus. Remember that tobi took full control of their minds,just like oro did hashi and tobi,so they werent at full strength,tobi basically used them as puppets and told them when to go further to transform,once goku got his mind he turned on tobi. Naruto as a perfect jin is above kurama as a raw bijuu as seen where wood dragon beat raw 100% kurama while 50% perfect jin naruto beat it. So compare that with the fact that the edo jins were mindless and functioned like hashi and tobi(look at the difference in edo hashi's power and the real one),and you can see why kurama seemed so much stronger than them.
You mean the one that didn't decapitate Bee?
Do you mean the one that is weaker than Bee's?
Even when Bee's V1 Lariat didn't have decapitation power against Sasuke,The one that only removed flesh from Sasuke's chest?
Ok sounds legit
really? did mabui say that tsunade will get torn to pieces, i cant remember but if tsunade is really really so durable why did she get chopped into two pieces by a fcking tree
and his chops,like his lariat are very linear,even with their speed,an experienced ninja could counter,iy's just like doing chidori without a sharingan,you have speed and power,but no time to react when countered.
that isnt an argument since it was NOT A's job to deal with katon attacks and tsunade's reaction speed is just above average, she scores 3.5 in databook for speed and that score includes both movement and reaction speed
Blitzing her wont do much,and she will eventually pick on his fighting style due to the fact that his attacks are linear.
there is no "eventually" if she gets cut in half few moments into the battle
Look at sasuke and bee,bee was slower in base,but his sword attacks were very unorthodox and sasuke cudnt react,but in v1,where he is much faster,his lariat was very linear,and sasuke reacted in mid air to dodge it.
they are not easy, highly doubtful tsunade can even deal with v1, she was shocked that naruto could keep with with raikage and that was just v1
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the assault on sasuke certainly doesnt qualify as linear: appearing on sasuke's right side after being in front of him
Abt the bijuus. Remember that tobi took full control of their minds,just like oro did hashi and tobi,so they werent at full strength,tobi basically used them as puppets and told them when to go further to transform,once goku got his mind he turned on tobi. Naruto as a perfect jin is above kurama as a raw bijuu as seen where wood dragon beat raw 100% kurama while 50% perfect jin naruto beat it. So compare that with the fact that the edo jins were mindless and functioned like hashi and tobi(look at the difference in edo hashi's power and the real one),and you can see why kurama seemed so much stronger than them.
i never felt tobi couldn't use them to there full potential, in fact he could control them at their full power- the complete bijuu form
naruto being a jinchuriki of kurama doesnt change the fact that naruto used kurama's chakra to effectively neutralize the other bijuu's combined attack
physically also its more powerful and bigger than them, even hashirama acknowledges kurama's superiority
really? did mabui say that tsunade will get torn to pieces, i cant remember but if tsunade is really really so durable why did she get chopped into two pieces by a fcking tree
look at Memoria's post
when did that happen
that isnt an argument since it was NOT A's job to deal with katon attacks and tsunade's reaction speed is just above average, she scores 3.5 in databook for speed and that score includes both movement and reaction speed
there is no "eventually" if she gets cut in half few moments into the battle
a magical eye like sharingan had a big role
they are not easy, highly doubtful tsunade can even deal with v1, she was shocked that naruto could keep with with raikage and that was just v1
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the assault on sasuke certainly doesnt qualify as linear: appearing on sasuke's right side after being in front of him
i never felt tobi couldn't use them to there full potential, in fact he could control them at their full power- the complete bijuu form
naruto being a jinchuriki of kurama doesnt change the fact that naruto used kurama's chakra to effectively neutralize the other bijuu's combined attack
physically also its more powerful and bigger than them, even hashirama acknowledges kurama's superiority
any human would be ripped to shreds. Only A his dad and tsunade have tanked it. You mean the same tree than manhandles bijuus?,and didnt a tree like that knock A on his ass unconsious?,and who is the kage still awake deapite taking the most damage?
2)already did
3) when she moved fast enough before mei could form handsigns?,when she hit madara?,does she seem slow in the war?
4)databook speed stats are top foot speed,not reactions,
5)he cant cut her in half,she is a lighening natured ninja which means a higher resistance to raiton techs,which IIRC was stated as the reason sasuke wasnt hyr bu darui's water lightening move or raikage touching him in raiton armour,or bee not being hurt by a lariat from him. His lariat cudmt hurt bee in base,bee in 3 tails hit sasuke with a lariat and only blew some flesh out,bee isnt cutting her in half anytime.
6)that magical eye was also used against bee in base when he used his swords and cudnt predict,but saw him in 3 tails doing a lariat
How is he not smart? At least he was smart enough to not fall for Naruto TNJ, unlike Tsunade.
Tsunade is slow and stupid she's in a huge disadvantage here.
