There is no reason why Sasuke couldn't use tsukuyomi
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Regarding the OP, you make good points to suggest why he would have it. But I'd still have to disagree. From the time period when Sasuke obtained MS to now, he has exhibited countless MS techniques which none of them have been Tsukuyomi. Against Danzo, all he used was mere genjutsu. When Danzo stated "Compared to Itachi's tsukuyomi, where he could alter perception of time at his whim...you're as far below him as land is below the sky". All he implied was that Sasuke was a weakling compared to the power of Itachi and his tsukuyomi. At no point did he state "your tsukuyomi is weaker than Itachi's".
Secondly as someone has already mentioned, in their recent fight against Kabuto, both Uchiha brother's exhibited all their best eye techniques in that one fight.
Sasuke
Left eye: Amaterasu
Right eye: Enton Kagutsuchi
Susano'o.
Itachi
Left eye: Amaterasu
Right eye: Tsukuyomi
Susano'o.
From this, it would fully make sense for Sasuke not to have it as there is a pattern of 3 occuring in both cases. Each Uchiha has one ability that each of their eye's can use and when both unlocked, they gain Susano'o. The one thing that defeats this theory is the old databook stating both amaterasu and tsukuyomi are required to unlock susano'o. But let's not forget that data book entries are only done based on character analysis thus far. So Kishi could only enter the requirements of Susano'o based on what we had only seen of Itachi until then. The data book requirements have also been suspect to change previously so their reliability is questionable.
I'm not fully writing off the possibility that he has tsukuyomi, but until there is full manga evidence of it, we can assume that he doesn't have it.
Secondly as someone has already mentioned, in their recent fight against Kabuto, both Uchiha brother's exhibited all their best eye techniques in that one fight.
Sasuke
Left eye: Amaterasu
Right eye: Enton Kagutsuchi
Susano'o.
Itachi
Left eye: Amaterasu
Right eye: Tsukuyomi
Susano'o.
From this, it would fully make sense for Sasuke not to have it as there is a pattern of 3 occuring in both cases. Each Uchiha has one ability that each of their eye's can use and when both unlocked, they gain Susano'o. The one thing that defeats this theory is the old databook stating both amaterasu and tsukuyomi are required to unlock susano'o. But let's not forget that data book entries are only done based on character analysis thus far. So Kishi could only enter the requirements of Susano'o based on what we had only seen of Itachi until then. The data book requirements have also been suspect to change previously so their reliability is questionable.
I'm not fully writing off the possibility that he has tsukuyomi, but until there is full manga evidence of it, we can assume that he doesn't have it.
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Kagutsuchi requires Amaterasu.. which is released from the left eye. Unless your saying both have Amaterasu.. if so then he cannot have Susano'o. Sorry but Kishimoto does not make these mistakes.
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I don't think sasuke has it. I mean even though itachi said you need both to awakens susanno. Madara uses susanno and never used tsukiyomi or amaterasu. Currently i believe he has it due to ems but before that no. To me each set of eyes has distinct abilites. Itachi: tsukiyomi/ amaterasu. Sasuke: amaterasu/ flame control (enton) kakashi/obito: long range kamui/short range kamui and being intangible. Sasuke gains tsukyomi when he gets ems. My question would be what are the eye techs madara has in order to unlock susanno?
Who said he couldn't? He can use the genjutsu, just not like Itachi can. Whoever said he couldn't just dislikes him. I like Naruto more than him, but come on. That's a pathetic excuse to take away what Sasuke can do.
Yes I know it requires Amaterasu. But to execute the technique it requires his right eye. It's similar to Obito's MS abilities. His left eye (which Kakashi has) has the ability to Kamui objects at range and also direct it at opponents (similar to what Sasuke does with Enton) and his right eye allows him to warp himself.
Kishi doesn't make mistakes? What about the panel of Obito where you could see Minato's face on the Kage mountain clearly before he was actually made hokage? Kishi makes mistakes bro
Even with Itachi's eyes? Madara also implied that he
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by taking his eyes. There is no way Sasuke didn't achieve Itachi's eye power if we follow that logic or it would mean that Sasuke isn't the genius we thought he was since even a crow can use Ms techniques just by having the eye, but not him?
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Actually there is a difference between it "requires".... requires mean he unlocked it or its mandatory to his MS. The thing he just uses his right eye to MANIPULATE the flames of Amaterasu. Also, I don't get how that was a mistake.. he was probably declared Hokage.
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You are correct, Madara gained his eyes from Izuna, Kakashi gained Obito's power by taking his eyes, and the crow had Shisui's power. I will not disagree with you on that, but then how much of EMS sasuke have we seen? We've seen him defeat a few zetsu and be a sideman throughout a fight against Kabuto. I already mentioned at the end of that post, until thus far, he (MS Sasuke) did not show that he was capable of doing Tsukuyomi, but I'm not fully writing him off possessing it because he now has Itachi's eyes and EMS. If we accept your statement as valid, then yes he should attain that power as the previous people attained their's in the same manner. Just waiting for the manga proof, that's all.
Why specifically his right eye if he didn't require it to manipulate the flames then? Just as Tsukuyomi is an ability granted by Itachi's right eye, the ability to control the amaterasu flames (enton kagutshuchi) is an ability granted by Sasuke's right eye.
It also is common knowledge that Minato became hokage after the third great ninja war, in which Obito was supposedly thought to be "dead". The part I mentioned earlier was long before this event, so no, Minato couldn't have been kage.
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Madara took the time out to show off tech's that don't even belong to him. i think he would have used them given his character. But this is just speculation. Anaways it what itachi said is correct then obito and kakashi should have exhibited some form of tsukiyomi or amaterasu.
