3rd and 4th kazekages vs tsunade and mei

[fourth kazekage]

Who wins?

Location:amegukere
distance:75m
restrictions:none
intel:none
mindest:BL

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Team kazekages high diff.

 

[Negative Knight]

Team Kazekage mid-diff

 

[GiantShuriken]

iron and gold tsunamis will rip the two kunoichis apart.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Location: AMAGAKURE

Mei and Tsu high diff.

 

[Negative Knight]

Location: AMAGAKURE

Mei and Tsu high diff.

Mei manipulates water not rain, unless the water accumulates into an actual body of water somewhere, i doubt it can be used as an efficent water source.

Not to mention, Amegakure has shown to be both rainy and sunny at times, remember Konan vs Tobi ?

Either way, it seems like the OP is trying to create favourable conditions for Team Tsunade. However Iron Sand is seemingly immune to water, it doesn't absorb moisture like normal sand. The same principal applies to Gold Dust which managed to contain the 2nd Mizukage's oily hydrifciation technique, stopping him from escaping Gaara's pyramid. Now consider that was a small portion of Gold dust mixed in with Gaara's sand, imagine if it was pure gold dust ?

I'll have to make a thread on the Fourth Kazekage some time.

 

[Kages]

Tsunade and Mei Mid Diff

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Mei manipulates water not rain, unless the water accumulates into an actual body of water somewhere, i doubt it can be used as an efficent water source.

Not to mention, Amegakure has shown to be both rainy and sunny at times, remember Konan vs Tobi ?

Either way, it seems like the OP is trying to create favourable conditions for Team Tsunade. However Iron Sand is seemingly immune to water, it doesn't absorb moisture like normal sand. The same principal applies to Gold Dust which managed to contain the 2nd Mizukage's oily hydrifciation technique, stopping him from escaping Gaara's pyramid. Now consider that was a small portion of Gold dust mixed in with Gaara's sand, imagine if it was pure gold dust ?

I'll have to make a thread on the Fourth Kazekage some time.

And how can the Kazekages manipulate the sand in the middle of the OCEAN?
Where can they find sand?

 

[FloriGlori]

Depends on whether Mei's Yoton can melt her opponents' metallic sands. Considering its astounding heat [

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] and the hype it was given, it seems very likely. I'd give this match to the female duo with moderate to high difficulty, considering that elemental advantage. Melting all that sand will be far from easy, of course.

 

[shelke]

Team Kazekage takes this due to their iron sand and gold dust.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Since when Amegakure was in the Middle of the OCEAN ?

RAIN:

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I dont see how can they use the Sand in a location like this :|

And LAVA + SAND = Glass/ rock

 

[Negative Knight]

@Slug Princess.

That's on the outskirts of Amegakure, i'm guessing the original thread meant Jiriaya vs Pain (the early stages of the battle) as the intinal location. If not, the location is a waste of time as it blatantly hinders the Kazekage whilst favouring Mei.

While you're right about Lava crystallizing Sand, but does Mei really posses the capacity to do that to immense amounts of Gold and Iron that parallel Gaara's attacks in magnitude ? I sincerely doubt it.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

@Slug Princess.

That's on the outskirts of Amegakure, i'm guessing the original thread meant Jiriaya vs Pain (the early stages of the battle) as the intinal location. If not, the location is a waste of time as it blatantly hinders the Kazekage whilst favouring Mei.

While you're right about Lava crystallizing Sand, but does Mei really posses the capacity to do that to immense amounts of Gold and Iron that parallel Gaara's attacks in magnitude ? I sincerely doubt it.

As I remember the Jiraiya vs Pein fight was inside of a building. How can the Kazakages create the Sand?
You doubt it, but you don't have proof. In a location like this, Mei should be able to deal with a Kazekage.

Though I think they would beat the girls in a forest/ desert/ field.
And don't forgat Tsunade. She can boost Mei's abilities with her own chakra.
And there is Katsuya, who can melt the sand/ protect the Hokage and Mei.

 

[Negative Knight]

As I remember the Jiraiya vs Pein fight was inside of a building. How can the Kazakages create the Sand?
You doubt it, but you don't have proof. In a location like this, Mei should be able to deal with a Kazekage.

Though I think they would beat the girls in a forest/ desert/ field.
And don't forgat Tsunade. She can boost Mei's abilities with her own chakra.
And there is Katsuya, who can melt the sand/ protect the Hokage and Mei.

At a ocean or inside a building ? The location would be completely biased, but nonetheless, the girls would win under those circumstances.

I agree on Tsunade furthering Mei's Yoton capabilities but even if she did, it would only serve to melt the Iron/Gold Sand (metals don't crystallize like normal sand) meaning it would only become a wave of liquid metal, which is arguably just as dangerous for the two.

Also bare in mind that the two Kazekage can fly, effectively avoiding Tsunade's lethality and almost the entirety of Mei's Jutsu (lava is far too heavy to reach them from long range).

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

At a ocean or inside a building ? The location would be completely biased, but nonetheless, the girls would win under those circumstances.

I agree on Tsunade furthering Mei's Yoton capabilities but even if she did, it would only serve to melt the Iron/Gold Sand (metals don't crystallize like normal sand) meaning it would only become a wave of liquid metal, which is arguably just as dangerous for the two.

Also bare in mind that the two Kazekage can fly, effectively avoiding Tsunade's lethality and almost the entirety of Mei's Jutsu (lava is far too heavy to reach them from long range).

Well if this is an open area ( or it isn't near water) the 2 Kazekage wins.

 

[FloriGlori]

While you're right about Lava crystallizing Sand, but does Mei really posses the capacity to do that to immense amounts of Gold and Iron that parallel Gaara's attacks in magnitude ? I sincerely doubt it.

I have little doubts that Mei can increase the amount of Yoton she spits. Tsunade comes in especially handy here, as her healing abilities could give Mei's Yoton a drastical boost, increasing both the amount of Yoton she can use as well as the duration she can use it continously. But to properly discuss that point we lack informations on how restricted or unrestricted the two Kazekage are when it comes to the amounts of sand they can use. My assessment was a gut reaction, as I believe that Mei and Tsunade have what it takes to make proper usage of that advantage.

 

[Owarij]

With the locations mei and tsunade.. thread is rigged..Kazekage fights are highly situational.. The third kazekage MIGHT be able to fight due to him having the magnetism kkg...If the fight is in the same place as Jiraya vs pain that is.... , But the fourth is completely useless as there is nowhere to receive gold dust from in this location

 

[Negative Knight]

I have little doubts that Mei can increase the amount of Yoton she spits, but to properly discuss that point we lack informations on how restricted or unrestricted the two Kazekage are when it comes to the amounts of sand they can use. My assessment was a gut reaction, as I believe that Mei and Tsunade have what it takes to make proper usage of that advantage.

The 4th Kazekage's usage seems to be unlimited in a sense, he extracts Gold Dust straight from the ground below and within moments can

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without much difficulty. I feel the same princple applies to the 3rd Kazekage.

Gaara's father was said to have restrained Shukaku multiples times when he raged out of control with the use of his Gold Dust, considering his sheer size, its plausible to say the Kazekage are all capable of large scale Sand manipulation.

Gaara without a sand source clearly demonstrates this even as child when fighting against Kimmimaro, the 3rd Kazekage can undoubtedly expel Iron Sand from his mouth. After all, how is it only possible for Suiton or Sand Release but not for Iron Sand ?

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

The 4th Kazekage's usage seems to be unlimited in a sense, he extracts Gold Dust straight from the ground below and within moments can

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without much difficulty. I feel the same princple applies to the 3rd Kazekage.

Gaara's father was said to have restrained Shukaku multiples times when he raged out of control with the use of his Gold Dust, considering his sheer size, its plausible to say the Kazekage are all capable of large scale Sand manipulation.

Gaara without a sand source clearly demonstrates this even as child when fighting against Kimmimaro, the 3rd Kazekage can undoubtedly expel Iron Sand from his mouth. After all, how is it only possible for Suiton or Sand Release but not for Iron Sand ?

Yes, in a desert.

With the locations mei and tsunade.. thread is rigged..Kazekage fights are highly situational.. The third kazekage MIGHT be able to fight due to him having the magnetism kkg...If the fight is in the same place as Jiraya vs pain that is.... , But the fourth is completely useless as there is nowhere to receive gold dust from in this location

This.

 

[FloriGlori]

I'm aware of all these points, but I still cannot imagine him just magically drawing gold from the ground, especially not in the given location. Unlike any kind of sand, Suiton is a Chakra nature; it's Chakra that undergoes an elemental transformation. As far as I remember, Gaara creates new sand by compressing minerals underground. If that same princible applies to Sandaime and Yondaime, they can only fight efficiently in certain areas, a stipulation which is not given in this specific scenario. The 'few' iron sand Kazekage can releae from his mouth should be easily covered by Mei's Yoton.