Re: "Kabuto can't use Edo Madara?" Don't be stupid to think Madara isn't Kabuto's Bi
They had to work and train to tame the powers they obtained. Being a jinchuriki is a bigger burden than you think. There has been jinchuriki who have failed at controlling the biju and even dying.
Kabuto proverbially injected himself with steroids and henceforth was able to become powerful.
Ok an im sure that Kabuto had to train with those powers as well. They didnt just come to him pretty sure he had to train as well. Alos he had to train to use Dragon sage mode which i bet wasnt easy. EITHER WAY BOTH DONT HAVE TO USE THE POWER BUT THEY USE IT ANY WAY so your really not helping your case.
No, it was stated in the manga that Oro needed the appropriate body to master the DSM. He couldn't because he didn't have a body like Jugo's. Kabuto obtained Oro + Jugo's DNA to learn DSM. He couldn't do it beforehand because he lacked the virtue, body, power and essence.
You can't make the argument that he could have learned DSM without these things, because he didn't.
Oro couldnt become a dragon sage because of his body was mainly dead. Kabuto has a perfectly fine body Sage mode is mainly chakra control because neither Jiraiya nor Naruto have durable body like Jugos but obtianed sage mode so not helping either.
They had the intent to apprehend him, not to kill him. Hurting him is hardly anything worth consideration when they were simply trying to get him to reverse edo tensei via genjutsu.
And I was speaking in general when stating those people. Some people actually have the audacity to compare a fodder like Kabuto to the likes of true geniuses like Orochimaru, and true legends like Hashirama.
Please, Kabuto failed in unlocking the secrets of the SO6P because he couldn't even fathom that power.
Like it would have made a deference Saskue used one of his best and fastest techniques *the arrow* but Kabuto easily dodged it. They even grabbed him an his got lose if they couldnt even catch him *if they could bet him* what makes you think that they could kill him. the only thing that saved them was Izanami
An If anything Kabuto has made a name for him self form what he was done in this war. If Itachi never had Izanami Kabuto could have easily turn the war in his favor. He has definitely made a name for him self.
An when did he study the SO6P?
Ok an im sure that Kabuto had to train with those powers as well. They didnt just come to him pretty sure he had to train as well. Alos he had to train to use Dragon sage mode which i bet wasnt easy. EITHER WAY BOTH DONT HAVE TO USE THE POWER BUT THEY USE IT ANY WAY so your really not helping your case.
Oro couldnt become a dragon sage because of his body was mainly dead. Kabuto has a perfectly fine body Sage mode is mainly chakra control because neither Jiraiya nor Naruto have durable body like Jugos but obtianed sage mode so not helping either.
"Mainly dead"?? LOL, what manga are you reading. Orochimaru couldn't do it because his body wasn't compatible. That's the connection between DSM and Jugo. Did you even read that chapter?
Kabuto does not have a perfectly fine body. Where did you hear this from? Certainly not the manga. But feel free to continue making baseless assumptions.
Also, Naruto is an Uzumaki and Jiraiya is a legendary shinobi. Their SM is also not the same as DSM. The prerequisites for Dragon Sage Mode was stated in the manga. And you DO need Jugo's DNA in order to achieve it.
Like it would have made a deference Saskue used one of his best and fastest techniques *the arrow* but Kabuto easily dodged it. They even grabbed him an his got lose if they couldnt even catch him *if they could bet him* what makes you think that they could kill him. the only thing that saved them was Izanami
An If anything Kabuto has made a name for him self form what he was done in this war. If Itachi never had Izanami Kabuto could have easily turn the war in his favor. He has definitely made a name for him self.
An when did he study the SO6P?
Sasuke used the arrow to try and pin him down; not kill him. And Kabuto easily dodged it under SM, lol. You aren't really helping your case at all.
Kabuto was also using secret clan techniques (like Suigetsu's) that he didn't learn, but forcefully pilfered and obtained. He was also using the S4's power which wasn't really helping his case either.
Itachi has explained this in the manga. Kabuto was trying to be like Orochimaru, Kabuto was hiding behind powers that weren't his. Thus he failed.
It's as simple as that. Kabuto was almost next to nothing. Get over it.
Re: "Kabuto can't use Edo Madara?" Don't be stupid to think Madara isn't Kabuto's Bi
Madara was only able to break free when Kabuto released Edo Tensei so basically if an Edo knows the seals to break Edo Tensei he can only do that when the user of Edo Tensei releases it because then they get their consciousnes back for a short amount of time and during that time period they can realease Edo but while they are controlled by someone they can't do that because they can't move on their own and even if they are allowed to talk, think and act on their own they are still under the binding of the Edo user
Don't compare that muppet to Draegod. Draegod's been providing good arguments and manga facts way before him, plus he brings the Uchihatards back down to Earth. xd
Re: "Kabuto can't use Edo Madara?" Don't be stupid to think Madara isn't Kabuto's Bi
Good thread. I also am of the mind that Madara would not have been able to escape on his own anyways. My thought process is that he needed the seal to be broken before he could place one on himself. Until then, he would be totally under Kabuto's control.
Re: "Kabuto can't use Edo Madara?" Don't be stupid to think Madara isn't Kabuto's Bi
Nice thread.! Kabuto is not my fav character but I hate when people downplay his power U_U he has too many haters.! Prime kabuto --> anybody (except SO6P and maybe obito.
What you've turned the whole thing around. AGAIN they do not have to use the tailed beast chakra whats so ever no one is forcing them to. So in turn but your statements they are leechs. An what Naruto trained for like what 2 day with the nine tails chakra so thats doesnt help you. An really there wouldnt be much training if the tailed beast fully trusted its Jin.
"Mainly dead"?? LOL, what manga are you reading. Orochimaru couldn't do it because his body wasn't compatible. That's the connection between DSM and Jugo. Did you even read that chapter?
Kabuto does not have a perfectly fine body. Where did you hear this from? Certainly not the manga. But feel free to continue making baseless assumptions.
Also, Naruto is an Uzumaki and Jiraiya is a legendary shinobi. Their SM is also not the same as DSM. The prerequisites for Dragon Sage Mode was stated in the manga. And you DO need Jugo's DNA in order to achieve it.
Oh you know that one manga Naruto, I like it a bit better than Naruto but hey. An you know what I meant his body isnt all jacked up like Oros' goodness. Also Oros' body couldnt handle the constant flow of nature chakra. An you do not NEED Jugos DNA to achieve it it just makes ones Sage mode much stronger since they have the ability to absorb Nature energy.
Sasuke used the arrow to try and pin him down; not kill him. And Kabuto easily dodged it under SM, lol. You aren't really helping your case at all.
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Kabuto was also using secret clan techniques (like Suigetsu's) that he didn't learn, but forcefully pilfered and obtained. He was also using the S4's power which wasn't really helping his case either.
Itachi has explained this in the manga. Kabuto was trying to be like Orochimaru, Kabuto was hiding behind powers that weren't his. Thus he failed.
It's as simple as that. Kabuto was almost next to nothing. Get over it.[/QUOTE]
Ok but his intellect helped him obtain that right?
Also tho he was trying sorta kinda to be like Orochimaru he more couldnt admit that tho HIS POWER IS GREAT HIS POWER, that it come from other sources. They were his but he could set his pride aside to say that those powers that are now MINE were someone elses.
An as simple as that he would have broke free form Izanami and killed Itachi and taken Saskue.
For what ever reason People believe Kabuto isn't number 1 because "Madara can break Edo". -___- Let me school the noobs with Facts!
There is a misconception (because noobs dont read the manga) that Kabuto cannot use Madara as an edo, but that is entirely False and has been proven that he can already!
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As you can see here Madara Uchiha has indeed been Summoned Via Edo and is in fact staring his partner OBITO/TOBI in the face and is 100% fully controlled! My question is if "He can Break Edo",why didnt he break it here??? Why didnt he do anything for that matter? Ill explain why!
There are 2 different Talisman Too use when fully controlling Edo Tensei!
Orus version:
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Which makes them Obidient Killing Machines. But by doing this they lose their train of thought too execute strategies the way they would if they were "alive", in other words they are mindless puppets!
Kabutos version:
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Kabuto's version makes them keep their personality and mind in tact, which in turn allows them too utilize there powers 100% as if they were alive! But by doing it like this the summons pose a chance of getting talked into losing their souls like Sais brother and Sasori.
Those are the major difference. But!... Kabuto can use both methods any given moment! =) This is what makes him better then Oru!
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As you can see, all he has too do is make a hand sign to turn you "Off" so to speak.
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Kabuto can fully control his summons any time he please! Thus eliminating their mind completely and also using them like a "toy" one could say. Madara is no different then the others. The only reason Madara Was able too do what he did is because Kabuto Allowed him too because he wanted too see the true power of Madara Uchiha!
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As you can see he allowed madara too do what ever he pleased! And he and madara is on the same side as well Btw.
Madara was only able too break free from Edo tensei because Kabuto was out of commission and couldn't control any one for that matter because of IZANAMI!
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And as you can see here, it took him a short while too break the contract, but it takes kabuto less then a second too completely Bind you! So in other words, If kabuto was using madara and aware of the fact he was trying too break edo or might, he simply makes the
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Also!
He can instantly Unsummon them at the drop of a dime and time he please!
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So Please SHUT THE FUQ UP ABOUT HOW "MADARA CAN BREAK EDO"! Its a fact that kabuto doesnt even have too keep there personality in tact, can turn them "off", and can unsummon them almost instantly! Plus the fact that, they are on the same team and Madara agreed too work with him testing his new powers. Only against Obito would Madara even want to "break Edo" because they are on the same team. Against any other ninja, madara would work with kabuto!
There is no such thing as Edo Madara! He is a product of kabuto and nothing more! Fact of the manga!
im a noob but i have read all the manga so far and i didnt join untill a few weeks ago, when kabuto summoned madara infront of tobi/obito the reason madara didnt break edo tensei was b/c he hadnt ben brought back yet.
lmao Do you know how izanami works??? DO you even know why they do not even use it in battle?
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In a 1 0n 1 fight Itachi stands no chance even with out EDo Tensei. It was a team effort, that is why Izanami was able too kick off! The manga literally shows the team work, and itachi literally says it isnt good in a actual Fight!
