Could Itachi have taken on Hiruzen?

[Shikamaru1994]

i don't have too and i hate it when people say stuff like ya that was hype, coz it takes away a lot of whats good about this series and makes it boring. i never really agreed on this way of understanding the characters (this attack and this counter) coz characters don't use all their attacks in a fight, also attacks are not all what makes a strong character. statues, battle mentality and experience should also be considered when you think of who is the stronger character not just the flashy jutsu therefore you can't act like your the characters and turn this into a game of chess. anyways i like both characters so lets leave at that

I Agree 100% with you. Unlike Kage, who is unreasonable, you have a clear head. + Reputation. Thank you for being sane.

 

[Omnipotent]

Konan's PATHETIC.

Edo Hashirama and Edo Tobirama had their fun toying with Hiruzen, while Orochimaru just stood there:

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Man, I gotta agree that Exaar and Owarij were really just doing damage control. I used to like Hiruzen. Now he's just any other character to me due to people like you. And you say you're defending him. You're just making him look bad... please stop.

Edo Tensei obviously doesnt count as your own power

Did I say that?

Enma isn't Hiruzen's own power, yet he's in Hiruzen's arsenal. As Edo Tensei is recognized as a part of the Nidaime Hokage's arsenal, and is also a part of Kabuto's arsenal.

Both are summoning techniques, so both are fair. Stop whining, boy.

 

[Kages]

Lol. So, since the tablet with all the secrets of all ninjutsu and the so6p is in Konoha, HE KNOWS EVERYTHING TOO RIGHT?

What so6p? I honestly have no idea what you're talking about? I will have my opinion and you have yours. Can we just agree to diagree?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Even Might Guy evaded Itachi's genjutsu by looking at him and Kisame in the water's reflection, Sharingan genjutsu can be evaded

 

[Shikamaru1994]

What so6p? I honestly have no idea what you're talking about? I will have my opinion and you have yours. Can we just agree to diagree?

First sane thing you've said all night. Thanks and I agree.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

I Agree 100% with you. Unlike Kage, who is unreasonable, you have a clear head. + Reputation. Thank you for being sane.

thanks, i can see that you like itachi a lot, i just hope you defend him within reason.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Itachi and Jiraiya has 35.5 stats while Old Hiruzen has 34 so Itachi can win with mid high difficulty, but I doubt Itachi can win with Genjutsu but he can with offensive attacks like Amaterasu

 

[narmeiter]

yes, he could have taken on hiruzen at that time. But, not in hiruzen's prime.

 

[6pathofpain]

Itachi WOULD SMASH HIRUZEN!!!

If you wanna bring prime hiruzen into this an put him at his best then you'd either have to choose itachi not sick or Edo itachi. Sharingan, suasnoo, genjutsu in brains puts itachi over the 3rd easy...

 

[Lightbringer]

If Oro can kill hiruzen, then so could Itachi. But prime hiruzen, maybe not.

 

[Kages]

If Unbaised or Micnerks were here, you would not wanna argue with them about Hiruzen. Yeah I'm talking to you KidGamer56 and Shikamaru1994

 

[IIB7252]

Itachi wins....

 

[Omnipotent]

If Unbaised or Micnerks were here, you would not wanna argue with them about Hiruzen. Yeah I'm talking to you KidGamer56 and Shikamaru1994

MickNerks just uses copy-and-paste and adds his assumptions to make himself look reasonable.

Only Unbiased, Exaar, and Owarij have truly made sense and they're only supporting Hiruzen for damage-control; the damage being caused by people like you.

 

[Kages]

MickNerks just uses copy-and-paste and adds his assumptions to make himself look reasonable.

Only Unbiased, Exaar, and Owarij have truly made sense and they're only supporting Hiruzen for damage-control; the damage being caused by people like you.

I said let's agree to diagree about that. Tobirama and Hashirama fanboy I believe? Look at my sig

 

[YellowFang]

Itachi mid-low diff.
Now, Hiruzen fans are really going overboard at over-estimating him...

 

[Omnipotent]

I said let's agree to diagree about that. Tobirama and Hashirama fanboy I believe? Look at my sig

You're the one who's saying Hiruzen can beat DSM Kabuto when DSM Kabuto has 30+ Edos in his arsenal, including Edo Itachi and Edo Nagato. You also say that Hiruzen can beat Obito when Obito has 5 Edo jinchuuriki in his arsenal, not to mention the Gedo Mazou. If that isn't fanboyism to the extreme, I don't know what is. Saying that just makes Hiruzen look bad.

I can assure you, I'm not a Hashirama 'boy.

 

[Lightbringer]

I said let's agree to diagree about that. Tobirama and Hashirama fanboy I believe? Look at my sig

I don't see a sig....

 

[insid3rkil3r]

I said let's agree to diagree about that. Tobirama and Hashirama fanboy I believe? Look at my sig

And this is how plot no jutsu was born.

 

[~MC117~]

Yes, I don't remember hiruzen showing anything that can protect him from itachi's genjutsu, amaterasu and susanoo. If hiruzen was in his prime then it might a different story but we barely know anything about his prime.

 

[Truemadara]

Lol wow hiruzen died beating the two hokages who didn't have free control like madara. I'm sorry but if you can't win a fight without dying then you didn't win. Ultimately he used a self sacrificing tech to win which the fourth knows as well.

If you all count that as a win then minato must be at hiruzens level because he would have done the same thing given the situation