What is Madara??

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Seeing he is made from edo tensei he should be considered an edo therefore making him a summon just like all of the other edo's as he is nothing different. Rinne tensei however resurrects him as himself with no modifications therefore that wouldn't be a summon.
 

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I hate when people include edo madara on their "top" lists. He is an experiment. Madara did not have unlimited chakra. He did not have mokuton (which he's used more than his sharingan). He did not have an immortal body.

Nonetheless, all edo's are resurrected with their own chakra pool, meaning they can only use techs on their level. Say they have a chakra level of 2, they are revived with that much. They can use jutsu that are level 1 or 2 and then their chakra regenerates. They can't use a chakra level of 3 because they only have 2.

This is true because when Muu split himself in half, he split his total chakra pool in half which was the reason he couldn't use jinton anymore.

Meaning that Madara was/is able to use all those techs we've seen him do in edo form if he were alive. He was an Uchiha born with a substantial amount of chakra among the clan, only to be increased with hashi cells.

If he were alive and mortal, he would still be #1 because he would still have the rinnegan and mokuton which he both obtained himself. Inserting Hashi cells gives you mokuton. And he would still have enough chakra to destroy just about anyone at this point.
 

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yeah i red that part in the manga.

but you said kabuto gave hime Mokutun

which isnt true

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Madara said there was something he wanted to try, which implys that he never did it before. If he had he would have just did it.. What evidence to you have that he is able to use mokuton already.. Ill wait for your proof.
 

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Madara said there was something he wanted to try, which implys that he never did it before. If he had he would have just did it.. What evidence to you have that he is able to use mokuton already.. Ill wait for your proof.
What Madara wanted to try was to summon Kurama, but it didn't work because he's in Naruto's belly.
 

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Madara said there was something he wanted to try, which implys that he never did it before. If he had he would have just did it.. What evidence to you have that he is able to use mokuton already.. Ill wait for your proof.

Just because he never used that jutsu doesn't mean that he never had Mokuton before he was revived.

Its already manga fact that those who implant Hashirama's DNA get Mokuton, so he got it when he implanted it...while he was still alive.
 

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What Madara wanted to try was to summon Kurama, but it didn't work because he's in Naruto's belly.

You gotta read the manga from right to left..

Just because he never used that jutsu doesn't mean that he never had Mokuton before he was revived.

Its already manga fact that those who implant Hashirama's DNA get Mokuton, so he got it when he implanted it...while he was still alive.

Yeah it is true that he had inplanted senju dna, but it could have been possible he wasnt strong enough or didnt have the chakra to use mokuton at the time.. The man was like 80 years old.
 

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You don't know he could use mokuton and when he got rinnegan he was an old cripple so the rinnegan didn't make a difference. Madara when he has EMS was stronger than when he got the rinnegan. And the chakra pool doesn't matter. Naruto in SM can throw 2 rasenshuriken. Him with an unlimited pool could just continuously throw them.....which does make the "unlimited chakra" a major factor.
 

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I know he is still a EDO, but can we count him as a actual shinobi. He is not longer under kabuto's control but technically he is a summoning. And his power (mokuton, immortality, unlimited chakra) was given to him by Kabuto. So can we technically consider him a individual shinobi because he is free, or should we still label him a produced of a summon.

Because the living madara is no where as powerful as this OP edo that we see before us today.

Nobody's close to being as powerful as Edo Madara, what's your point?

He already had mokuton from Hashirama's DNA, and it's obvious his chakra rserves were increased from that too.

Yes, he is a shinobi, yes, he is Edo Madara. He's not even a summon anymore, because he can't be summoned back to where he came from.

He's a free spirit, leave him alone
 

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He is a Edo , that is not under someone's control.

Just because he never used that jutsu doesn't mean that he never had Mokuton before he was revived.

Its already manga fact that those who implant Hashirama's DNA get Mokuton, so he got it when he implanted it...while he was still alive.

Did you see Hashirama's face on Madara's chest? when Madara was old?... cause I saw it on the Gedo.... not on Madara himself.
Nobody's close to being as powerful as Edo Madara, what's your point?

He already had mokuton from Hashirama's DNA, and it's obvious his chakra rserves were increased from that too.

Yes, he is a shinobi, yes, he is Edo Madara. He's not even a summon anymore, because he can't be summoned back to where he came from.

He's a free spirit, leave him alone
Madara = Dead man walking.

He is a zombie with a mind that cannot die. He was a summon. ^_^

He of course is a DEAD Shinobi.. and doesn't count into the power ranking of people who lived in Naruto. Cause then Edo Nagato and others would be included ;].
 
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He is a Edo , that is not under someone's control.



Did you see Hashirama's face on Madara's chest? when Madara was old?... cause I saw it on the Gedo.... not on Madara himself.

I saw Hashi's face on Danzo's shoulder. I'm pretty sure the Hashi cells were implanted there.

and in this panel you see young Madara looking at his chest where the face is located in, on the lower panel. He implanted into his wound and it appeared there.

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Nobody's close to being as powerful as Edo Madara, what's your point?

He already had mokuton from Hashirama's DNA, and it's obvious his chakra rserves were increased from that too.

Yes, he is a shinobi, yes, he is Edo Madara. He's not even a summon anymore, because he can't be summoned back to where he came from.

He's a free spirit, leave him alone

Get off his nuts. I was asking a simple question, and you come of the attack.. Please get off. You are officially a troll in my book.
 

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He is a Edo , that is not under someone's control.



Did you see Hashirama's face on Madara's chest? when Madara was old?... cause I saw it on the Gedo.... not on Madara himself.

They never showed Madara's chest when he was old, but he most likely had the face on his chest as Danzo got the face on his shoulder. So I'm guessing it appears where you implant the cells.

You gotta read the manga from right to left..



Yeah it is true that he had inplanted senju dna, but it could have been possible he wasnt strong enough or didnt have the chakra to use mokuton at the time.. The man was like 80 years old.

He implanted it soon after the VoTE fight..when he was still in his prime.
 

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You gotta read the manga from right to left..



Yeah it is true that he had inplanted senju dna, but it could have been possible he wasnt strong enough or didnt have the chakra to use mokuton at the time.. The man was like 80 years old.

He implanted it soon after the VoTE fight..when he was still in his prime.
 

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A really buttmad zombie intent on becoming a (un) living God due to his arguable homolust for Hashirama.

The buttmad is because he got beat. He's a bitter defeated loser like Itachi said. Truth is he's way stronger than some punk kid in an orange jumpsuit loudly yelling about morals. Naruto is weaker than Sasuke, Madara, Obito, Itachi, Nagato and most of t he other villains we've seen in the series.
 

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They never showed Madara's chest when he was old, but he most likely had the face on his chest as Danzo got the face on his shoulder. So I'm guessing it appears where you implant the cells.
o_O. Nope.. If he had them implanted.. then he wouldn't have the need to link to the Gedo Statue.
 

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o_O. Nope.. If he had them implanted.. then he wouldn't have the need to link to the Gedo Statue.

He linked to the Gedo statue to keep himself alive...it shows and says that he implanted them so there is no sense in arguing it.
 

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o_O. Nope.. If he had them implanted.. then he wouldn't have the need to link to the Gedo Statue.

I think you missed my comment with me linking the manga page. Besides the gedou mazo along with the hashi cells granted him long life. If Hashi cells granted immortality then Hashi would still be alive most likely.

it's ok, i'll link the page again.

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Edo Madara is Pre Juubi Sage of the Six Paths.
 
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