Sage Mode Naruto Vs Gaara

Who wins

  • Gaara

    Votes: 16 36.4%
  • Sage Mode Naruto

    Votes: 28 63.6%

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Joki

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@ joki, read that post and tell me how many zetsus battled gaara and his division before the kages and madara,why would you refuse what naruto said?
The wiki is made by people, like us. They have absolutely 0 more knowledge over it than I do, and it doesn't even support what you're saying it supports anywhere.

And you accuse me of ignoring the manga?,sasuke also hadnt seen gaara fight so how did he know about gaara's improved ultimate defence?,
Yet you try and use NARUTO's claim of his defense highly?
the same as naruto,he must have either heard or seen it off panel,naruto still believed gaara had the greatest defence,even after seeing the third raikage,meaning he must have heard,that is manga statement,and you are ignoring it,
because he is his friend, and saw his part 1 fights. You're assuming.
but you wont ignore sasuke claiming he guarded with enton because he said so,despite making no mention to whom he was reffering to,the only one he used enton to defend against was the raikage,that is manga fact,the flames gaara blocked had no such shape,if it was enton,it would have been an arrow or something like that.
No, enton is the manipulation of Amaterasu. Please show where Sasuke has ever used Enton Arrow vs A, since that's apparently the only time Enton was ever used. Sasuke manipulats Amaterasu, that's Enton, period. Post the scan where he used Amaterasu vs Gaara? You can't because he didn't, he manipulated the Amaterasu already out o the field. This is manga fact. Hell, go to Narutopedia to look that up, since it agrees with me and you like using it as a valid source so much.
And the narutopedia corrects any false info there,so it is also a good source. Gaara and his division fought no zetsu clones,the only fought the kages and then madara,it was a fraction of gaara's division that went with shikamaru that fought zetsu clones,
I'm not talking about whos division fought who. The fact that you think the meteor wiped out thousands of shinobi or some crap like that when it was never said is ridiculous when there was 100,000 Zetsu and by the "first night" over half of both sides were completely elimiated. Again, Narutopedia doesn't even say that anywhere in fact it says quite the contrary and agrees with me because what I say is fact.

So, anyway, to conclude, what is Gaara's answers to all of the scans I posted in my first post? Because Gaara doesn't have any, that's why he loses.
 

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The wiki is made by peiple who read the manga like us as well,IIRC,they have just as much knowledge as you,and when they post,there are also references to validate their posts,if not,it is deleted,and are you saying you know more than all those who write on it?. Gaara and his men never fought any zetsu clone,their first encounter was muu,who then summoned the other kages to fight,even though they fought off-panel,they were still fighting the same kages when they returned,are you saying they took a break to fight zetsu clones before attacking the kages?,when that meteor dropped,shinobi who had run away from the impact point were wiped out,gaara who stayed back, protected by his sand was uninjured,his sand armour barely cacked,a meteor attack explosion outclasses the one of a rasenshriken anyday,if gaara walked out after a meteor attack,he can do the same with a rasenshuriken,besides,gaara can intercept it before it reaches him and cause a premature explosion,his sand armour will protect him from any wind needles that somehow pass his auto sand shield. And what do you mean naruto said that about gaara's defence because they're friends?,he wasnt even talking to gaara, so he praised his defence above someone who wasnt hurt by a rasenshuriken in km mode because they were friends? That's silly..... Enton is shape manipulation applied to the flames of amaterasu,the spikes he created from the flames around his susanoo is enton,it had shape,he used magatamas of amaterasu flames against the zetsu clones,that was enton,he shaped the flames of amaterasu around his susanoo,that was enton,the flames gaara's sand stipped had no shape,that was amaterasu,and if it was enton,tell me which technique he used,if you cant,then ill stick to the one which says he blocked amaterasu,which were also people who read the manga and had references to prove it.in one panel,gaara has his sand out,n another panel,he has blocked 3 flames,which fail to burn through,the raikage was standing in one panel,then dodging amaterasu in the next,look at the flames that was around that samurai and look at the three that gaara caught and tell me if they arent the same. ......
 

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The wiki is made by peiple who read the manga like us as well,IIRC,they have just as much knowledge as you,and when they post,there are also references to validate their posts,if not,it is deleted,and are you saying you know more than all those who write on it?. Gaara and his men never fought any zetsu clone,their first encounter was muu,who then summoned the other kages to fight,even though they fought off-panel,they were still fighting the same kages when they returned,are you saying they took a break to fight zetsu clones before attacking the kages?,when that meteor dropped,shinobi who had run away from the impact point were wiped out,gaara who stayed back, protected by his sand was uninjured,his sand armour barely cacked,a meteor attack explosion outclasses the one of a rasenshriken anyday,if gaara walked out after a meteor attack,he can do the same with a rasenshuriken,besides,gaara can intercept it before it reaches him and cause a premature explosion,his sand armour will protect him from any wind needles that somehow pass his auto sand shield. And what do you mean naruto said that about gaara's defence because they're friends?,he wasnt even talking to gaara, so he praised his defence above someone who wasnt hurt by a rasenshuriken in km mode because they were friends? That's silly..... Enton is shape manipulation applied to the flames of amaterasu,the spikes he created from the flames around his susanoo is enton,it had shape,he used magatamas of amaterasu flames against the zetsu clones,that was enton,he shaped the flames of amaterasu around his susanoo,that was enton,the flames gaara's sand stipped had no shape,that was amaterasu,and if it was enton,tell me which technique he used,if you cant,then ill stick to the one which says he blocked amaterasu,which were also people who read the manga and had references to prove it.in one panel,gaara has his sand out,n another panel,he has blocked 3 flames,which fail to burn through,the raikage was standing in one panel,then dodging amaterasu in the next,look at the flames that was around that samurai and look at the three that gaara caught and tell me if they arent the same. ......
 

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The wiki is made by peiple who read the manga like us as well,IIRC,they have just as much knowledge as you,and when they post,there are also references to validate their posts,if not,it is deleted,and are you saying you know more than all those who write on it?. Gaara and his men never fought any zetsu clone,their first encounter was muu,who then summoned the other kages to fight,even though they fought off-panel,they were still fighting the same kages when they returned,are you saying they took a break to fight zetsu clones before attacking the kages?,when that meteor dropped,shinobi who had run away from the impact point were wiped out,gaara who stayed back, protected by his sand was uninjured,his sand armour barely cacked,a meteor attack explosion outclasses the one of a rasenshriken anyday,if gaara walked out after a meteor attack,he can do the same with a rasenshuriken,besides,gaara can intercept it before it reaches him and cause a premature explosion,his sand armour will protect him from any wind needles that somehow pass his auto sand shield. And what do you mean naruto said that about gaara's defence because they're friends?,he wasnt even talking to gaara, so he praised his defence above someone who wasnt hurt by a rasenshuriken in km mode because they were friends? That's silly..... Enton is shape manipulation applied to the flames of amaterasu,the spikes he created from the flames around his susanoo is enton,it had shape,he used magatamas of amaterasu flames against the zetsu clones,that was enton,he shaped the flames of amaterasu around his susanoo,that was enton,the flames gaara's sand stipped had no shape,that was amaterasu,and if it was enton,tell me which technique he used,if you cant,then ill stick to the one which says he blocked amaterasu,which were also people who read the manga and had references to prove it.in one panel,gaara has his sand out,n another panel,he has blocked 3 flames,which fail to burn through,the raikage was standing in one panel,then dodging amaterasu in the next,look at the flames that was around that samurai and look at the three that gaara caught and tell me if they arent the same. ......
 

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The wiki is made by peiple who read the manga like us as well,IIRC,they have just as much knowledge as you,and when they post,there are also references to validate their posts,if not,it is deleted,and are you saying you know more than all those who write on it?. Gaara and his men never fought any zetsu clone,their first encounter was muu,who then summoned the other kages to fight,even though they fought off-panel,they were still fighting the same kages when they returned,are you saying they took a break to fight zetsu clones before attacking the kages?,when that meteor dropped,shinobi who had run away from the impact point were wiped out,gaara who stayed back, protected by his sand was uninjured,his sand armour barely cacked,a meteor attack explosion outclasses the one of a rasenshriken anyday,if gaara walked out after a meteor attack,he can do the same with a rasenshuriken,besides,gaara can intercept it before it reaches him and cause a premature explosion,his sand armour will protect him from any wind needles that somehow pass his auto sand shield. And what do you mean naruto said that about gaara's defence because they're friends?,he wasnt even talking to gaara, so he praised his defence above someone who wasnt hurt by a rasenshuriken in km mode because they were friends? That's silly..... Enton is shape manipulation applied to the flames of amaterasu,the spikes he created from the flames around his susanoo is enton,it had shape,he used magatamas of amaterasu flames against the zetsu clones,that was enton,he shaped the flames of amaterasu around his susanoo,that was enton,the flames gaara's sand stipped had no shape,that was amaterasu,and if it was enton,tell me which technique he used,if you cant,then ill stick to the one which says he blocked amaterasu,which were also people who read the manga and had references to prove it.in one panel,gaara has his sand out,n another panel,he has blocked 3 flames,which fail to burn through,the raikage was standing in one panel,then dodging amaterasu in the next,look at the flames that was around that samurai and look at the three that gaara caught and tell me if they arent the same. ......
 
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The wiki is made by peiple who read the manga like us as well,IIRC,they have just as much knowledge as you,and when they post,there are also references to validate their posts,if not,it is deleted,and are you saying you know more than all those who write on it?.
No, I also go by what they said, they never supported you in the first place
Gaara and his men never fought any zetsu clone,their first encounter was muu,who then summoned the other kages to fight,even though they fought off-panel,they were still fighting the same kages when they returned,are you saying they took a break to fight zetsu clones before attacking the kages?,
Ok, what does this have to do with anything at this point? Every division was fighting Zetsu clones and it was proven manga fact that over half the alliance died to them on the first day nothing proves there are "only a dozen alliance fodder remaining" that's ridiculous
when that meteor dropped,shinobi who had run away from the impact point were wiped out,gaara who stayed back, protected by his sand was uninjured,his sand armour barely cacked,a meteor attack explosion
Actually, you're discrediting Onoki who did most of the work by making both meteors practically weightless. Gaara didn't do shit, his sand was an added bonus but if he weren't there it wouldn't have made much of a difference.
outclasses the one of a rasenshriken anyday,if gaara walked out after a meteor attack,he can do the same with a rasenshuriken,
Too bad he didn't do shit to 2 head on meteors and never will, and too bad Rasenshuriken is a slicing attack that tore through myoboku mountains with ease, again Gaara's sand isn't doing shit, pretty sure you're ignoring every link ever that contradicts what you say.
besides,gaara can intercept it before it reaches him and cause a premature explosion,his sand armour will protect him from any wind needles that somehow pass his auto sand shield.
I hope Gaara likes a barrage of 50 of them then. Remember when Gaara ran out of chakra after using sand to stop C3? Yeah.....good luck having hte stamina to keep up with Naruto who casually shits on C3 with basic attacks.
And what do you mean naruto said that about gaara's defence because they're friends?,he wasnt even talking to gaara, so he praised his defence above someone who wasnt hurt by a rasenshuriken in km mode because they were friends? That's silly.....
Oh but saying Naruto somehow defies all logic and the universe and has knowledge about current Gaara despite never ever seeings him fight since part 1 isn't? That's retarded and ridiculous as well, Part 1 Gaara would get torn apart by 3rd raikage.
Enton is shape manipulation applied to the flames of amaterasu,the spikes he created from the flames around his susanoo is enton,it had shape,he used magatamas of amaterasu flames against the zetsu clones,that was enton,he shaped the flames of amaterasu around his susanoo,that was enton,the flames gaara's sand stipped had no shape,that was amaterasu,
That's nice and dandy. Too bad that was never said to require shape, and it's merely the manipulation of Amaterasu(see Naruto wiki as you like using it as a source so much, proves you wrong repeatedly) which Sasuke actually did. Hey, remember the panel where Sasuke said it was Enton?
and if it was enton,tell me which technique he used,if you cant,then ill stick to the one which says he blocked amaterasu,

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which were also people who read the manga and had references to prove it.in one panel,gaara has his sand out,n another panel,he has blocked 3 flames,which fail to burn through,the raikage was standing in one panel,then dodging amaterasu in the next,look at the flames that was around that samurai and look at the three that gaara caught and tell me if they arent the same.
Heh, I'd like to see those people try and prove it, because Sasuke disagrees. Yeah, I guess you guys know more about Amaterasu than Sasuke himself, right? Despite the fight being off paneled in the first place? Yeah, I guess you guys are right, it's obviously Amaterasu, Sasuke doesn't know the difference, that guy doiesn't know shit even though he used the techs himself.

Uh, actually, when Sasuke used Amaterasu it appeared where A was, when he blocked Gaara's attakc he moved Amaterasu to defend. I hope you know this is manga fact and I already posted the page, denying it now is retarded.
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Don't know what you're trying to prove here, none of that will stop from being completely fodderized by SM Naruto. Thanks for ignoring all the links I psoted a couple pages though, but since Gaara has no answer for them anyway I get why you'd not want to respond. It's cool bro.
 

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just want to say i reped people that gave good points and thats a lot of people . lol

ot: i would say it depends on narutos first move gaara need time to make a dessert if naruto goes balls out he wins, if he waits gaara wins
 

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@ joki,onoki lightened ONE meteor,and gaara caught it,the other one crashed into the first and they both went slamming into the ground,leveling fourth the division,including madara himself who was in his susanoo,gaara was uninjured,so go read it again. C3 shits on anything SM naruto can do,it would have destroyed the entire sunagukere,naruto's resenshuriken couldnt even fully destroy the human path,and naruto's basic attacks arent getting him anywhere in this fight,IIRC,naruto has only 6 rasenshurikens to use,2 for eech time he can re-enter sage mode after it has expired. So how will he make 50??. Oh and sasuke cant control amaterasu like gaara controls sand,he adds shape manipulation to it to form enton,if he dosent add shape transformation,then it's amaterasu.you need either shape manipulation or nature tranformation to create or modify a techique,shape transformation is added to amaterasu to create enton,without it,it is amaterasu. Since you like challenging the wikia, here: am sure it will help,oh and if you read enton itself,click on the highlighted word"manipulating",it will lead you to shape transformation so u dont say they contradict eachother.so far,the wikia has been spot on. And in that panel of yours,look at the direction the two flames beside gaara were heading to,they were moving towards temari and kankuro and gaara blocked it,as well as the one meant for him,and sasuke also praised gaara's defence,mind telling me why?,since you feel you are backed up by the manga. And those scans you posted earlier,tou posted about naruto ambushing the asura path from above while he was heading for tsunade,aside from that speed feat which isnt above gaara's sand,there was nothing there,gaara isnt close ranged,the same thing goes with the taijutsu duel with the naraka path,then you have naruto in his mind with the kyubi,he can't do that outside,his clones were moving and entering sage mode,that alone makes the entire thing useless here,gaara isnt fighting in his mind,naruto isnt even starting in vase mode to begin with,and he has NEVER done that again. Then you show me a panel woth naruto whom the kyubi gave it's chakra to destroy madara's moukton,how is that relevant? Then you have naruto's double rasengan,like those are getting through a sand that tanked jouki boy's explosion without even budging,big ball rasengan has the same counter as double rasengan,except gaara can simply send out sand clones to intercept them,then have them simply turn to sand and crush them,not to mention sand hail as well or just grabbing them from under,or hit them with sand drizzle,they are shadow clones,a few hits and tey are gone.rasenshuriken is the only problem,but naruto himself acknowledged gaara's defence above the raikage,and naruto would also have a good reason for saying it,he isnt matsuri or one of gaara's fanboy to say something like that simply because they're friends,he must have known or heard off panel.ive already given reasons for gaara blocking that attack,and IIRC sage mode naruto's rasenshuriken has the only war feat of being absorbed by madara,the RS that hit the raikage was a km one.Immediately after oonoki said they should test their defences,gaara hit them with a sand tsunami 3 times the size he used aganst kimi,in almost no time,they had been retreating all night,so he couldnt have been grinding sand,also there was no sand out of his gourd when he showed himself to them after that tsunami,if there was,then it would have been around him like always.gaara also instantly created large figures of sand resembling his mum to hold those kages from the ground before they reached him,the sand he has been using all the way to madara has been from that one sand tsunami in the beginning,imagine what he could do with two or more,and comparing early shippuden gaara to current is insane,gaara has had his sand armour on for over a day straight,used multiple massive sand techs,protected his entire division from an attack,survived a meteor attack,managed to grab madara from his susanoo(with oonoki's help but still) etc. Gaara's flight also renders several attacks nigh useless,not to mention he can do most of his techs above,and he can fly around quite fast. I guess that wraps things up,it's cool if you have no more lousy excuses,wow owning both megan and joki at once,amazing.
 
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I'm going with Sage Mode Naruto because he is much faster and stronger then anyone Gaara has fought. He beat Pain while Gaara lost to Deidara. I think it would be a decent fight but Sage Mode Naruto is clearly on another level.
 

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I'm going with Sage Mode Naruto because he is much faster and stronger then anyone Gaara has fought. He beat Pain while Gaara lost to Deidara. I think it would be a decent fight but Sage Mode Naruto is clearly on another level.

isnt this thread like 3 months old?xd.

Sage mode naruto isnt faster than a flying deidara,sahe mode naruto isnt stronger than edo kages or 5 susanoos.

You say he beat pain and gaara lost to deidara while ignoring the circumstances,and IIRC,deva path alone beat sm naruto while greatly weakened,while deidara won because gaara chose to defend his village.

Sm naruto isnt really that strong anymore,not with the sdden kishi powerups he is giving people.

Gaara can simply intercept a rasenshuriken mid flight with a sand arm,making it explode,sand sensing tells him where all the narutos are,flight gives him an advantage. Gaara is well above sm naruto now.





 

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I retract my statement, with Gamabunta oil it makes Gaara sand useless, then Naruto can spam rasen shurikens
 
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Naruto Takes this Mid-Diff.

Tsunami can be dodged by summoning Gamabunta. Anything else in Gaara's Arsenal is simply dodged.

While Gaara can't defend from Gamabunta's Suiton Bullets or Naruto's Higher level Rasegan variants. Then Naruto has Gama Ranbu in his stash if all else fails.
 

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Naruto Takes this Mid-Diff.

Tsunami can be dodged by summoning Gamabunta. Anything else in Gaara's Arsenal is simply dodged.

While Gaara can't defend from Gamabunta's Suiton Bullets or Naruto's Higher level Rasegan variants. Then Naruto has Gama Ranbu in his stash if all else fails.

gaara can coontrol the sand in the sand,and use it to attack naruto while on bunta,and bunta will come down to the ground wont he?.sand hail wont be dodged,or sand instantly jotting from beneath naruto.

Water does nothing to his sand,and he can crush bunta.

Rasengan variants wont break through his sand,rasenshuriken is intercepted by sand midway,and naruto can only do 3 at one time before running out,gaara's flight also gives him an advantage. He cant dodge or couner these





 

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gaara can coontrol the sand in the sand,and use it to attack naruto while on bunta,and bunta will come down to the ground wont he?.sand hail wont be dodged,or sand instantly jotting from beneath naruto.

Water does nothing to his sand,and he can crush bunta.

Rasengan variants wont break through his sand,rasenshuriken is intercepted by sand midway,and naruto can only do 3 at one time before running out,gaara's flight also gives him an advantage. He cant dodge or couner these

Yes bunta has to come back down but it will be behind Gaara. Prime time for an attack. Gaara wont be able to hold down multiple summons. Bunta can tank sand Hail (when has he even used that?). Gaara can't send sand under Naruto when he's riding Giant Toads. Also Gaara can't block Gama Guzan. He Also has no awnser for Gama Ranbu.

If you think water does nothing to water then you need to get outside more.

Gaara wont intercept RasenShruiken, Its faster than you think. Rasengan variants in genral will break Gaara's Sand. Your overating it. Naruto can use Toad summons to help against Gaara's Flight (when does Gaara ever fly like everyone says he does? didn't do it against Madara lol)

A normal Rasengan could reach Gaara after Suiton Bullets
 

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Yes bunta has to come back down but it will be behind Gaara. Prime time for an attack. Gaara wont be able to hold down multiple summons. Bunta can tank sand Hail (when has he even used that?). Gaara can't send sand under Naruto when he's riding Giant Toads. Also Gaara can't block Gama Guzan. He Also has no awnser for Gama Ranbu.

If you think water does nothing to water then you need to get outside more.

Gaara wont intercept RasenShruiken, Its faster than you think. Rasengan variants in genral will break Gaara's Sand. Your overating it. Naruto can use Toad summons to help against Gaara's Flight (when does Gaara ever fly like everyone says he does? didn't do it against Madara lol)

A normal Rasengan could reach Gaara after Suiton Bullets

if bunta jumps high and comes down,gaara would know where he is falling,and be ready when he comes down. When have you seen anyone summon mor than one animal at once?,only ma has done that and animal path,naruto,j-man,oro,all summon one toad at a time,even if he can summon multiple,this will hold all of them,

gaara did that size hunderds of chapters ago,he can make one much bigger now.

Bunta can not tank sand hail,imagine hails of metal-like sand falling ontop you continously at high velocity,and it comes from above,and spreads out a fair distance,so jumping up isnt an option. If naruto stays on a toad,then he gets hit with the sand hail,not to mention gaara can attack the toads from under to incapacitate them. What is gama guzan and gama ranbu?.

Gaara already controlled his sand when submerged in water easily.it's not a problem.

Rasenshuriken is fast,but gaara's sand blocked 3 entons at abt 8m,it reacted to an instant forest rising underneath,he made a sand shield big enough to guard an entire village in the instant the c3 exploded as well as caught 3 kages at once,twice. You are underestimating his sand's speed. He blocked jokiboy's explosions,his sand protected him from a meteor and 5 susanoo swords,rasengan isnt going to hurt him,assuming naruto actually gets close enough. Gaara flew against madara actually,as well as against muu and the mizukage. Toads wont help naruto reach gaara,if the jumo,they will just make it easier for him to kill them.
 
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