Naruto only reached Minato's level of speed after achieving BM

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This thread is to show that KM Naruto was infact slower than Minato. It's only after achieving BM that he reached Minato's level, and this is my proof:

- Yamato clearly says here that despite the fact he was fast enough to hurt Kisame before he could even react, despite the fact they saw something similar to , he wasn't on Minato's level at that moment:
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- Raikage also implies that Naruto's speed wasn't on Minato's level since he says only Minato surpassed him(implying that Naruto's speed isn't enough):
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- Kakashi was fighting all along with KM Naruto, but he never noticed his speed. Only after he achieved Bijuu Mode, that Kakashi thought it was Minato(comparing the speed to Minato's level)
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So basically, manga implies that KM Naruto was close to Minato's speed but still slower. Only when he obtained BM, that Naruto achieved Minato's level of speed
 
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Minato wasn't as fast as KM normally, what made him fast was FTG. The yellow flash is produced from FTG
 

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Minato wasn't as fast as KM normally, what made him fast was FTG.

And what made Naruto fast is the 9 tails chakra.

OT: I think they are equally fast now, Idk about KM.
 

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Minato wasn't as fast as KM normally, what made him fast was FTG.
Whether it's by using FTG or not that Minato was able to move that fast place to place is not the point. The point is to show that Naruto was still slower than him and it's what the manga implies. Also, Obito clearly stated he deserves the title of yellow flash by seeing his shunshin no jutsu, which implies that it's his shunshin no jutsu which was compared to another level to others
 

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actually what yamato was referring to is his "control" over his speed he was going so fast he couldnt stop and hit the wall and his leg got stuck.

2. raikage says that before naruto doges his punch

3rd was naruto even using his speed in his fight with kakashi of course he wouldnt notice if he wasent...
 
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Naruto is nothing without Kyubi. Raikage is nothing without lightning armor? Your point?

He is NOTHING, mainly he is slow. Sasuke is faster. Naruto > Minato
 

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actually what yamato was referring to is his "control" over his speed he was going so fast he couldnt stop and hit the wall and his leg got stuck.
Not really. He was really refering to the level. You can even see it in another translation:
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Lets not go to the arguement about he would be nothing without this or that.
 

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You are on a roll with these thread tonight.lol

But you missed the page that showed naruto surpass the raikagae v2 speed.
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This was the moment KM became on par with minato's speed. BM puts naruto beyond minato's speed. BM speed alone is great enough to repel attacks.
 

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Naruto technically cant be considered to be "as fast" as Minato simply because Minato uses s/t jutsu which is instantaneous, but for this threads sake, we'll say that it is comparable to it since his speed is so great that he looks to be as fast as Minato.

Anyways, when Naruto had gained KM, he could do simple, short speed "bursts" that could match, and later exceed, though just by a little bit, the raikage's own speed. When Naruto first gained BM, he was able to surprise even Kakashi, who knew first-hand of Minato's speed. At that point, he was considered to have "speed" that could rival Minato's own.
 

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Not really. He was really refering to the level. You can even see it in another translation:
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That quote. "I'm On His Ass Like White On Rice!"

Ok...I'll take that and leave. xD
 

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technically minato couldnt move fast he more of teleporting
 

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Naruto technically cant be considered to be "as fast" as Minato simply because Minato uses s/t jutsu which is instantaneous, but for this threads sake, we'll say that it is comparable to it since his speed is so great that he looks to be as fast as Minato.

Anyways, when Naruto had gained KM, he could do simple, short speed "bursts" that could match, and later exceed, though just by a little bit, the raikage's own speed. When Naruto first gained BM, he was able to surprise even Kakashi, who knew first-hand of Minato's speed. At that point, he was considered to have "speed" that could rival Minato's own.
True, but what i'm comparing here is their overall speed in battle. Obviously teleportation will always be faster

You are on a roll with these thread tonight.lol

But you missed the page that showed naruto surpass the raikagae v2 speed.
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This was the moment KM became on par with minato's speed. BM puts naruto beyond minato's speed. BM speed alone is great enough to repel attacks.
Lol, because i got time to make these threads :p Concerning the page where he dodged Raikage's punch i don't consider it because i believe he didn't master it at that moment. Proof of it is that Kakashi fought all along with KM Naruto and didn't even once compared their speed. Only when he entered BM, that Kakashi compared their speed. It was obviously a hint Kishi gave us to understand that BM Naruto finally rivalled Minato's speed
 

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No matter how fast naruto gets Minato will always be faster because of FTG. FTG isn't speed it's teleportation. Minato could have a seal across the world and get there in an insant no matter how fast naruto gets he could never do that.
 
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