Exiguity.

[KidGamer65]

-Mokuton was never categorized as a secret jutsu similar to the Nara clans shadow possession, the term secret was only applied to Jukai Kotan, not all Mokuton jutsus.

-The databook pages for Susanoo talks about 2 different things.

One page talks about how to unlock Susanoo while the other one talks about the.weapons equipped on Itachi's Susanoo.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

-Mokuton was never categorized as a secret jutsu similar to the Nara clans shadow possession, the term secret was only applied to Jukai Kotan, not all Mokuton jutsus.

-The databook pages for Susanoo talks about 2 different things.

One page talks about how to unlock Susanoo while the other one talks about the.weapons equipped on Itachi's Susanoo.

Lol.....sigh....you're never gonna get it are you? Im giving up on you. How can the same damn page talk about two different things. The entire page is in reference to Itachi, that's why his name is on the goddamn top of the page......wow some people >_>

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol.....sigh....you're never gonna get it are you? Im giving up on you. How can the same damn page talk about two different things. The entire page is in reference to Itachi, that's why his name is on the goddamn top of the page......wow some people >_>

The bold is one of the stupidest things I've heard yet....Please L2Read.

One paragraph says "those who have tsukuymi and Amaterasu get Susanoo" Keyword is those.

Why would it say those if it was refencing Itachi and Itachi alone, huh?

Just quit while you're behind.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

The bold is one of the stupidest things I've heard yet....Please L2Read.

One paragraph says "those who have tsukuymi and Amaterasu get Susanoo" Keyword is those.

Why would it say those if it was refencing Itachi and Itachi alone, huh?

Just quit while you're behind.

You assume that one part of the page talks only about Itachi and the other talks about all Susanoo when Itachi's name hasn't been mentioned throughout the entire page except at the very top...SMH
I'm done with you. Like Varrah said, those who have failed to recognise Kagutsuchi as Sasuke's second technique, have failed to interpret the manga as Kishimoto has intended.

 

[The Work]

Why people try to use all this logic for an animated series? >_<

 

[KingHashirama]

Blatantly declaring your ignorance isnt an argument.

Is this the same person who believed the SO6P was of a shinobi clan at the time of no shinobis... .

And same guy, who ignores many points made against him.

Because Itachi was the only person who had Susanoo at that time. I believe Madara used an EMS genjutsu on Ei, also, I hope you realise that saying the writer didn't make Madara use them isn't an argument.

EMS genjutsu can't be tusuykyomi? How do you know it can't be it? Does it have to say that? If its stated a specific thing about a jutsu then it is true. If it was a character thing then you can doubt the Databook.. but information on how to get a specific jutsu.. you cannot argue that.

And don't talk like a ignorant person acting like you know what Kishimoto intended or what he didn't. Especially when you can't even provide arguments for your own theory.. a theory which you hold to be a fact.. that is proven directly wrong by the manga.. yet you talk about what Kishimoto intended and what he didn't. That is a sign of ignorance.

"those" is a plural, if you can't understand that , then your the one who needs to start making sense.

 

[KidGamer65]

You assume that one part of the page talks only about Itachi and the other talks about all Susanoo when Itachi's name hasn't been mentioned throughout the entire page except at the very top...SMH
I'm done with you. Like Varrah said, those who have failed to recognise Kagutsuchi as Sasuke's second technique, have failed to interpret the manga as Kishimoto has intended.

I should of figured that you wouldn't, or rather, couldn't answer my question.

Gain some basic reading skills and then we can have this discussion again.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Is this the same person who believed the SO6P was of a shinobi clan at the time of no shinobis... .

And same guy, who ignores many points made against him.



EMS genjutsu can't be tusuykyomi? How do you know it can't be it? Does it have to say that? If its stated a specific thing about a jutsu then it is true. If it was a character thing then you can doubt the Databook.. but information on how to get a specific jutsu.. you cannot argue that.

And don't talk like a ignorant person acting like you know what Kishimoto intended or what he didn't. Especially when you can't even provide arguments for your own theory.. a theory which you hold to be a fact.. that is proven directly wrong by the manga.. yet you talk about what Kishimoto intended and what he didn't. That is a sign of ignorance.

"those" is a plural, if you can't understand that , then your the one who needs to start making sense.

Sasuke's second eye jutsu is Kagutsuchi! End of story. The databook has just been proven as outdated by Varrah. I personally don't like fanboys or arguing with them, so if you're looking to argue with someone, argue against Varrah's posts in this thread. You are just trying to start a flame war, because you can't even understand a single word written by Varrah. BTW you're the one that declared you're lack of understanding and ignorance...not me.

 

[KingHashirama]

Sasuke's second eye jutsu is Kagutsuchi! End of story. The databook has just been proven as outdated by Varrah. I personally don't like fanboys or arguing with them, so if you're looking to argue with someone, argue against Varrah's posts in this thread. You are just trying to start a flame war, because you can't even understand a single word written by Varrah. BTW you're the one that declared you're lack of understanding and ignorance...not me.

Kagutsuchi: Sasuke Uchiha uses this technique to apply Shape Transformation to the inextinguishable black flames of Amaterasu manipulating them at will.With it he can create a barrier that not only shields him, but also burns and pierces any opponent that touches the flames. The technique can also be used in conjunction with his Susanoo, and its weaponry.

I haven't seen how he proved that part wrong? . When nothing in the manga has contradicted that part. lol.

I already said Sasuke used a genjutsu with one eye, and then amaterasu with the other. Unless you can prove that wrong.. which none of you have..

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Kagutsuchi: Sasuke Uchiha uses this technique to apply Shape Transformation to the inextinguishable black flames of Amaterasu manipulating them at will.With it he can create a barrier that not only shields him, but also burns and pierces any opponent that touches the flames. The technique can also be used in conjunction with his Susanoo, and its weaponry.

I haven't seen how he proved that part wrong? . When nothing in the manga has contradicted that part. lol.

I already said Sasuke used a genjutsu with one eye, and then amaterasu with the other. Unless you can prove that wrong.. which none of you have..

Read Varrah's post #2, every Uchiha can use regular Genjutsu amplified by their Mangekyou Sharingan.

Kagutsuchi is the Shinto God of Fire, every MS jutsu has been named after a Shinto God. Kagutsuchi is no different.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

@ Queen

Also read post # 14 for your answer.

 

[KingHashirama]

Read Varrah's post #2, every Uchiha can use regular Genjutsu amplified by their Mangekyou Sharingan.

Kagutsuchi is the Shinto God of Fire, every MS jutsu has been named after a Shinto God. Kagutsuchi is no different.

A senju or others can also use Genjutsu.... Tsukuyomi is the only Sharingan genjutsu known.

And your point of bringing in Kagutsuchi was? Its a technique powered by Amaterasu..... Same freaking eye.

 

[Varrah]

Disregarding the datebook merely because its somewhat outdated?

Seems legit.

Not the entirely, just the prerequisites of Susano'o.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

A senju or others can also use Genjutsu.... Tsukuyomi is the only Sharingan genjutsu known.

And your point of bringing in Kagutsuchi was? Its a technique powered by Amaterasu..... Same freaking eye.

Lol you know you done F'd up right? Lol look at Sasuke vs Raikage and the moment Sasuke uses Kagutsuchi, he uses it out of his RIGHT EYE, whereas he uses AMATERASU OUT OF HIS LEFT EYE. Look at the page with Raikage's Guillotine Drop.

 

[KingHashirama]

Lol you know you done F'd up right? Lol look at Sasuke vs Raikage and the moment Sasuke uses Kagutsuchi, he uses it out of his RIGHT EYE, whereas he uses AMATERASU OUT OF HIS LEFT EYE. Look at the page with Raikage's Guillotine Drop.

Kagutsuchi:

Sasuke Uchiha uses this technique to apply Shape Transformation to the inextinguishable black flames of Amaterasu manipulating them at will. With it he can create a barrier that not only shields him, but also burns and pierces any opponent that touches the flames. The technique can also be used in conjunction with his Susanoo, and its weaponry.[1] While Amaterasu is cast from Sasuke's left eye, he uses his right eye to manipulate the flames.[2]

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[iSpeak the Truth]

Kagutsuchi:

Sasuke Uchiha uses this technique to apply Shape Transformation to the inextinguishable black flames of Amaterasu manipulating them at will. With it he can create a barrier that not only shields him, but also burns and pierces any opponent that touches the flames. The technique can also be used in conjunction with his Susanoo, and its weaponry.[1] While Amaterasu is cast from Sasuke's left eye, he uses his right eye to manipulate the flames.[2]

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And hence Sasuke uses Amaterasu out of his LEFT EYE and Kagutsuchi out of his RIGHT EYE. NOT TSUKUYOMI!! Case closed.

 

[KingHashirama]

And hence Sasuke uses Amaterasu out of his LEFT EYE and Kagutsuchi out of his RIGHT EYE. NOT TSUKUYOMI!! Case closed.

Read it complete first, before trying to be a smart ass. He uses Amaterasu from his left eye and then uses his Right eye to manipulate them.... O_O Kagutsuchi is a amaterasu technique period.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Read it complete first, before trying to be a smart ass. He uses Amaterasu from his left eye and then uses his Right eye to manipulate them.... O_O Kagutsuchi is a amaterasu technique period.

You're an idiot! So manipulating the flames out his RIGHT EYE is the same jutsu as his LEFT? I am so done with this stupidity. You are your parent's problem not mine.

 

[Champ]

Don't know im torn wether he has it the manga hasn't classified it but the DB has, but with the recent viz scans I've seen it seems his MS doesn't have Tsukuyomi. When Sasuke said those who awaken the Mangekyo in both eye can achieve Susano'o, then why would Obito say Susano'o is rare? Then Sasuke said the third power is Susano'o, but he awaken Amaterasu & Susano'o before Kagutsuchi(assuming that is his second power).

 

[Varrah]

A senju or others can also use Genjutsu.... Tsukuyomi is the only Sharingan genjutsu known.

And your point of bringing in Kagutsuchi was? Its a technique powered by Amaterasu..... Same freaking eye.

Sasuke's Mangekyō Sharingan casts Amaterasu from his left, and Kagutsuchi from the right as well as Genjutsu. [

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