How will sasuke defeat orochimaru ?

[Bless Walker]

You're seriously underrating Sasuke.
You might not like him but at least admit his potential. We're talking about the guy who went on the Raikage like it was nothing.

True enough but and i have nothing against him but he is powerful dont get me wrong but this is Oro he has taught Sasuke everything he knows so that is one thing you must realize and Oro has alot of information about the Uchiha anyways so there are not to many ways Sasuke has and advantage.

 

[Chatte]

True enough but and i have nothing against him but he is powerful dont get me wrong but this is Oro he has taught Sasuke everything he knows so that is one thing you must realize and Oro has alot of information about the Uchiha anyways so there are not to many ways Sasuke has and advantage.

Yet Oro wasn't present when Sasuke acquired Susano'o, Amaterasu, Blaze release etc...

 

[Bless Walker]

Yet Oro wasn't present when Sasuke acquired Susano'o, Amaterasu, Blaze release etc...

You put up good points but i dont see it being easy thats assuming he even can, he can only use amaterasu limited amount of times, he can only stay in that form breifly as well if he goes all out in the beginning the but other wise a long fight between them Oro would win.

 

[Chatte]

You put up good points but i dont see it being easy thats assuming he even can, he can only use amaterasu limited amount of times, he can only stay in that form breifly as well if he goes all out in the beginning the but other wise a long fight between them Oro would win.

We musn't forget his fight with Danzo, he pretty much spammed Amaterasu... if Danzo wouldn't have had the Izanagi, he would've been long gone. So imagine Orochimaru in that state.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Yet Oro wasn't present when Sasuke acquired Susano'o, Amaterasu, Blaze release etc...

oro has seen both while inside anko and after watching the entire fight with kabuto he knows exactly what can counter them.
Good old fashion speed and a little white rage to make it unstable.With psychical attacks being mostly useless unless they deal a critical blow and being almost impossible to catch in a genjustu bless walker only adds icing to the cake when he reminds us that he is the one that trained sasuke

 

[Bless Walker]

We musn't forget his fight with Danzo, he pretty much spammed Amaterasu... if Danzo wouldn't have had the Izanagi, he would've been long gone. So imagine Orochimaru in that state.

Ok you have a point Oro is dead.WTH

 

[GiantShuriken]

An EMS user is more than capable of defeating Orochimaru. In fact MS is enough...

Orochimaru isn't really on the tier of guys like Sasuke anymore. People need to get their heads out of their asses.

 

[Bless Walker]

An EMS user is more than capable of defeating Orochimaru. In fact MS is enough...

Go away your late. I have already lost just through more rocks at me...

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

We musn't forget his fight with Danzo, he pretty much spammed Amaterasu... if Danzo wouldn't have had the Izanagi, he would've been long gone. So imagine Orochimaru in that state.

oro can shed his body.Not saying its infinite but he has a defense against something most people would die on the spot from.
And his speed is increased dramatically in sage mode and since his true form is a snake his agility will be even faster.The environment will only play to oro's advantage.

 

[Chatte]

oro has seen both while inside anko and after watching the entire fight with kabuto he knows exactly what can counter them.
Good old fashion speed and a little white rage to make it unstable.With psychical attacks being mostly useless unless they deal a critical blow and being almost impossible to catch in a genjustu bless walker only adds icing to the cake when he reminds us that he is the one that trained sasuke

Yes, he was, but still different ocassions dictate for different actions.
They were fighting to catch him, not kill him.
So as far as I am concerned can go either way but I still felt like people are severely underrating Sasuke because of his fanboys.

oro can shed his body.Not saying its infinite but he has a defense against something most people would die on the spot from.
And his speed is increased dramatically in sage mode and since his true form is a snake his agility will be even faster.The environment will only play to oro's advantage.

If he'll acquire Sage Mode, remember he has a weak body.

Ok you have a point Oro is dead.WTH

Actually he's alive now... :| That fishy man...

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

An EMS user is more than capable of defeating Orochimaru. In fact MS is enough...

guess you failed to read the thread huh ? cite why your post was a fail in the above post that is if you even bother to read it this time

 

[GiantShuriken]

No I don't need to. Orochimaru is not on the level of MS users. Rinnegan/MS users > Sannin. That simple. Its been portrayed time and time again in this series. There's nothing more to say. Orochimaru was a strong Part 1 villain. He successfully defeated a genin 2T sasuke, genin naruto with some fox cloak, and Anko. But compared to the superpowered group which Sasuke is a part of now consisting only of himself, Nagato, Itachi, Naruto, Madara and Obito, Orochimaru is a tier below.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Yes, he was, but still different ocassions dictate for different actions.
They were fighting to catch him, not kill him.
So as far as I am concerned can go either way but I still felt like people are severely underrating Sasuke because of his fanboys.



If he'll acquire Sage Mode, remember he has a weak body.

Both sides were not aiming to kill aside from that the situation he is in does not change just because the situation is now a death match.The problem with landing a direct attack and hitting him with a genjustu will still be there.And that was my main point of this thread,I know sasuke will win in the end but how when his two ways of killing people will not win the match for him as easily as he is use to.

And to the last part.I know that is why oro said he can't take it "yet" If he plans on taking it he will have to get all his chakra back.
Only when he is at full strength will this battle even begin.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

No I don't need to. Orochimaru is not on the level of MS users. Rinnegan/MS users > Sannin. That simple. Its been portrayed time and time again in this series. There's nothing more to say. Orochimaru was a strong Part 1 villain. He successfully defeated a genin 2T sasuke, genin naruto with some fox cloak, and Anko. But compared to the superpowered group which Sasuke is a part of now consisting only of himself, Nagato, Itachi, Naruto, Madara and Obito, Orochimaru is a tier below.

Hmmm so you admit you didn't read it ? And that is where you fail.If you read it you would know how retarded your statement is.
Since you know next to nothing about what your trying to talk about expect no response from me if you continue to post.

 

[Chatte]

Both sides were not aiming to kill aside from that the situation he is in does not change just because the situation is now a death match.The problem with landing a direct attack and hitting him with a genjustu will still be there.And that was my main point of this thread,I know sasuke will win in the end but how when his two ways of killing people will not win the match for him as easily as he is use to.

And to the last part.I know that is why oro said he can't take it "yet" If he plans on taking it he will have to get all his chakra back.
Only when he is at full strength will this battle even begin.

I see, sorry, I didn't even read everything, I just got a bit pissed at some comments that were downplaying Sasuke.

 

[GiantShuriken]

Hmmm so you admit you didn't read it ? And that is where you fail.If you read it you would know how retarded your statement is.
Since you know next to nothing about what your trying to talk about expect no response from me if you continue to post.

Sorry, I am using manga facts. Not your biased bullshit.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I see, sorry, I didn't even read everything, I just got a bit pissed at some comments that were downplaying Sasuke.

I understand some think i am trying to downplay sasuke but in fact i am saying the opposite.He is in a bad situation if that fight ever gets started but since we know it won't end with oro winning just what kind of power will sasuke reveal ? I can't wait to see his full ems powers on display.I can't say its a certain but i just know he will get ps its the only thing that stand up against a bijuu.It can slash down mountains and we all saw what km naruto did.He simultaneously blocked 5 tailed beast bombs and deflected them into a mountain range.Just like hasihi and madara did naruto and sasuke will change the landscape with there fight.

 

[Chatte]

I understand some think i am trying to downplay sasuke but in fact i am saying the opposite.He is in a bad situation if that fight ever gets started but since we know it won't end with oro winning just what kind of power will sasuke reveal ? I can't wait to see his full ems powers on display.I can't say its a certain but i just know he will get ps its the only thing that stand up against a bijuu.It can slash down mountains and we all saw what km naruto did.He simultaneously blocked 5 tailed beast bombs and deflected them into a mountain range.Just like hasihi and madara did naruto and sasuke will change the landscape with there fight.

Well, I am sure Kishi will pull something.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Sorry, I am using manga facts. Not your biased bullshit.

You do know that trying to get the last word does not equate to me being wrong right ? When you read my thread do you see
facts or did you literally read it as sdgherugbe9rugh9WERG94U93G BLAH BLAH oro kills sasuke ? Because that is not what i wrote and if you think i used anything other then facts then i encourage you to look up the definition of the word fact because we seem to be living in two different worlds my friend .When your not a intolerable fan boy msg me and maybe we can have a real conversation

 

[GiantShuriken]

I actually wasted my time and read it. You need to use facts kid, rather than waahah orochimaru rulz!! Sorry, Orochimaru only took HIS power that Kabuto stole. He did not take the enhancements Kabuto had made as Juugo said. Manga facts. So Orochimaru is still the same Tier 2 guy he was before his death.