[Discussion] Obitos Rinnegan - A waste of his eye socket.

[TobiOrNotTobi]

Chapter 614 CONFIRMED that Obito is capable of using the Rinne Tensai but here's my problem... He can use one of the best Rinnegan techniques but not any of the others, like the Animal Summoning, the almighty Push.. etc?

Obviously it was set up as a plot (not a good one tbh) but Tobi/Obito himself hyped things up the moment he gathered the Rinnegan, how shit will go down in this war from then on.. the only thing that went down after he took the Rinnegan was his mask /facepalm.

[Don't go: "That's because he's an uchiha!"... no, just no.]

 

[Syntaxs]

Why can he only use Rinne Tensei but nothing else?

 

[Scooby Doo]

Why do you think that he cannot use the other paths?Sorry maybe my memory fails...

 

[Chef Boy RD]

Well to be honest, the author hasn't really given us a thorough explanation of the Rinnegan. For example, what's the difference(s) between having one eye and two, if any? are all of the jutsus that Pain displayed accessible for those with just one eye? etc. And quite frankly, if jutsus such as Shinra Tensei and its like are indeed accessible then plot elements that occurred are just nonsensical now.

For example, why was Tobi's mask able to be blown off in the first place if he can A) absorb ninjutsus and/or B) repel attacks

Why the hell didn't any of the Jinchuurikis use the Rinnegan's abilities? The Sharingan and Rinnegan implants were terrible additions to the plot as they served no purpose (inb4 linked rinnegan vision) and the plot with have been more logical without them.

So I agree with you on the points you have made, but I cannot really speak of any correctness or incorrectness - all I can really say is that the plot lacks clarity.

 

[rollin]

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[Seighlinde]

Herp

 

[Animaeon]

Though your disappointment is understandable, since he said "My left eye is hungry for battle", Kishi might just be saving Obito's full strength for the finale. Which makes sense, because if a character already showed every trick he/she has to offer, then there's nothing really left to look forward to.

And even now it's not a waste, because it just allowed him to turn the tables on Madara.

 

[NOemotions]

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was about to say this.. he aint stupid..

 

[Syntaxs]

I think I am stupid...

In this page I felt like there are more explanations,
it takes too much Chakra to control the beasts, he doesn't want to waste Chakra on something which the enemy knows the counter already or he can't? What is it now?:/

But I agree, this whole eyestuff makes the Plot weird/hard to understand.

As every DoJutsu is a "relative" to the Rinnegan no? But I still wonder why, Sharingan and Byagugan have nothing in common with the Rinnegan except for making the eyes look different.

 

[Chef Boy RD]

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Which is only more confounding. Why aren't the jinchuurikis themselves using the Rinnegan's jutsus if they can.

I doubt Tobi is really thinking, "oh shit they know how to counter the Rinnegan, so I can't use defensive tactics such as Shinra Tensei to repel attacks or absorb ninjutsus" seriously, where is the logic. Shinra Tensei has a 5 second cool-down, two people alone can just spam the hell out of it endlessly: one person use the jutsu while the other waits the cool-down time. And they have more than 2 people with the Rinnegan, sooooo....

Also, how do you counter the Cerberus summoning that keeps respawning stronger? And now that I know for certain, people with the Rinnegan can use all of the jutsus (I do recall him telling Kabuto he could have used one of the jutsus to extract information from Yamato), how the hell was Tobi's mask blown off and how is he even being hit as easily if he has a minimum of three defense mechanisms: Kamui (Mangekyou), Shinra Tensei, Absorbing Jutsu?

 

[-ahhimane-]

He was the brain washer. So he will use the rinnegan casually and not like Nagato. He had the Gedo Mazo(Juubi) for his cleaning the field then why will he use against those ASF who he thinks as complete fodder. He will use it efficiently while fighting Madara after all that battle gonna be totally epic even to put it in the manga(and then anime). Just wait n watch.

 

[Midday]

It's been implied on a few occasions that he can use the rinnengan, as to why Kishi hasn't let him use it is anyone's guess.

 

[Namikaze Senju]

mayb because he has not masteres it

 

[Zol]

Which is only more confounding. Why aren't the jinchuurikis themselves using the Rinnegan's jutsus if they can.

I doubt Tobi is really thinking, "oh shit they know how to counter the Rinnegan, so I can't use defensive tactics such as Shinra Tensei to repel attacks or absorb ninjutsus" seriously, where is the logic. Shinra Tensei has a 5 second cool-down, two people alone can just spam the hell out of it endlessly: one person use the jutsu while the other waits the cool-down time. And they have more than 2 people with the Rinnegan, sooooo....

Also, how do you counter the Cerberus summoning that keeps respawning stronger? And now that I know for certain, people with the Rinnegan can use all of the jutsus (I do recall him telling Kabuto he could have used one of the jutsus to extract information from Yamato), how the hell was Tobi's mask blown off and how is he even being hit as easily if he has a minimum of three defense mechanisms: Kamui (Mangekyou), Shinra Tensei, Absorbing Jutsu?

I don't get your first sentence. Obito was controlling the Jinchuuriki as his six paths, they couldn't do things on their own.

Kamui he was using, or else he wouldn't have been in the other dimension that moment. And that's probably the exact reason he didn't get to use one of the other things: he was simply surprised/ caught off guard. Consider how fast Naruto is.

 

[iKaras]

If he was spamming Rinnegan with his MS when he was facing Naruto and company it would of been a total mismatch. lol

 

[RikudoKami]

He is using his Rinnegan to control the Juubi, one would think that's the bulk of his power there

 

[6PathsofKami]

He can use it but don't know why he isn't

 

[Edge]

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This. Although it's stupid because if he can use Rinne Tensei he easily could have absorbed the Rasengan that smashed his mask or other combinations of Rinnegan and Kamui.

I mean he's got Senju DNA and hasn't really seemed to be low on chakra anyways...

 

[Bogard]

- Summoning Gedo Mazo already proves he can use the Animal Path
- Controlling Tailed Beast with stakes proves he can use the Outer Path, and it's even said that his Outer Path binding is stronger than Nagato's. Rinnetensei is part of Outer Path, so nothing surprising if he can use it
- He already said he can use Human Path