Present Obito vs Kabuto

[MarkPaul]

Obito doesn't have izamani.And seriously your argument for him having it is because he has not showed the ability to use it ? Do you even know what izanami does ? I have a feeling you don't if you did you would know why someone like him most of all would not have it.And why it would not even work against the type of people he is fighting.Everything about your post is an epic fail lmao

I doubt some troll just hacked his account, 8k+ posts? Its not right if he's just trolling by his own will.

 

[Dantee]

You want KAbuto's Edos to fight for him? They can't hit Obito. No one can hit Obito. So Obito will win. Simple as that.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Illusion is genjutsu like tsukuyomi you know? I'm not saying Kabuto will let himself get caught, but Obito is too much for him to handle. His way of using kamui is too hax, and when you add his mokuton and rinnengan techniques, it's end for him.

That is not a argument you proved nothing or gave any evidence to further your claim all you did was say obito has a rinnegan and that does not make him the automatic winner.Kabuto can supress the mokuton btw.



" Kabuto self admitted that it would be easy for Obito to put him in a genjutsu. Madara stated he learned him Uchiha forbidden techniques." <<<This never happened so .............

The reason he is so formidable is because he is the embodiment of a sharigans worst nightmare.He is basically immune to genjustu because he can block out all his sense and still fight which is why izanami was used it was literally the only thing that could stop him.Obito does not have it.Stop fooling yourself and actually do what this thread asked you to do and conjure up actual reasons like the rest of us.


that never happened.I don't even know what else to say beyond this.

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[Bogard]

He is never going to get izanami it would be pretty ironic if someone like him who denied himself just like kabuto.Who doensn't even want to be anybody had a genjustu that helped people change there fate lmao

Itachi was a liar all his life, but still was able to use Izanami, right? Itachi never said you needed to be jesus to be able to use that jutsu. He only said the jutsu was created to counter Izanami and liberate Uchiha for proscreation. He didn't say Izanami could only be used if you're denying yourself. He only said that if you deny yourself, you can't liberate yourself from the loop of Izanami. So yes Obito can't probably liberate himself if he gets caught by Izanami unless he changes his mind, but it doesn't mean he can't use the jutsu and Itachi is the perfect example. He admitted himself that when he was alive he was like Kabuto, but was still able to use the jutsu

Wait, you just said a doubtful sentence again, Obito's gonna use wood techniques on Kabuto? I dont think thats possible. He doesnt have Hashirama's cells. Its Madara you're talking about.

He can use mokuton. Re-read the manga again

 

[MarkPaul]

You want KAbuto's Edos to fight for him? They can't hit Obito. No one can hit Obito. So Obito will win. Simple as that.

Madara's not gonna like your post. Same goes for Itachi, Nagato and the Kages who are Edo's. i dont think you know what are the advantages of being Edo. They can hit him. Obitocant just dodge all attacks, his dodge jutsu have an interval second before he'a able to use again.

Itachi was a liar all his life, but still was able to use Izanami, right? Itachi never said you needed to be jesus to be able to use that jutsu. He only said the jutsu was created to counter Izanami and liberate Uchiha for proscreation. He didn't say Izanami could only be used if you're denying yourself. He only said that if you deny yourself, you can't liberate yourself from the loop of Izanami. So yes Obito can't probably liberate himself if he gets caught by Izanami unless he changes his mind, but it doesn't mean he can't use the jutsu and Itachi is the perfect example. He admitted himself that when he was alive he was like Kabuto, but was still able to use the jutsu

He can use mokuton. Re-read the manga again

The Mokuton's from the white zetsu he's attached to. Its not him. Its Zetsu who can.

 

[Bogard]

1. I know that illusion is = with genjutsu, but as I remember Obito didn't used it.
2. I forget about this. But Kabuto can use genjutsu too. And he can control Itachi, one of the best genjutsu users ever.
3. I doubt he can use it, but who knows?

What? You don't remember Obito using genjutsu? What did he use against konan(he even killed her with a genjutsu). What did he use against Yagura(perfect Jinchuriki) controlling him for years. What is the goal of this war? Doesn't he want to cast infinite tsukuyomi? His genjutsu is powerful enough that kages compared it to Shisui's doryoki(Kotoamatsukami). His genjutsu is powerful enough to control even the Kyubi(one man in whole history was able to do it before: Uchiha madara).

Yes kabuto can use genjutsu, but his genjutsu is a range genjutsu, not really the perfect jutsu to use in a fight if the opponent is attacking you since he give you no time for that. It's not really doubtful if Obito can use Izanami since he can. Madara said he learned him Uchiha forbidden techniques. There are only 2 so far we know(izanagi or Izanami).

Not because he didn't show it that he can't. Why will he use Izanami if he has to sacrifice his sharingan? Even Izanagi he only used it because he was forced to use it in that situation. That's why we called those techniques forbidden techniques. They are not techniques that you would use recklessly

 

[Bogard]

The Mokuton's from the white zetsu he's attached to. Its not him. Its Zetsu who can.

What is this nonsense? Spiral Zetsu self admitted that Obito

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[Dantee]

Madara's not gonna like your post. Same goes for Itachi, Nagato and the Kages who are Edo's. i dont think you know what are the advantages of being Edo. They can hit him. Obitocant just dodge all attacks, his dodge jutsu have an interval second before he'a able to use again.

Yeah you're right Obito can just walk right through all their attacks. He doesn't have to bother hitting them. He can instantly go to Kabuto. You say Kabuto w. Edos and now you try to switch it up and say he's hiding. Make up your mind. Obito can't lose get over it.

O yeah and destroy the rest of your thread Kabuto has to remain still to control them or else their free will, will take over meaning Madara will break free making the match invalid.

 

[MarkPaul]

What is this nonsense? Spiral Zetsu self admitted that Obito

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1st picture you showed me how his right arm(Zetsu's arm) used Mokuton. Not him. 2nd picture is just nonsense, it was the Juubi's hand, not Obito neither Zetsu's.

 

[Dantee]

1st picture you showed me how his right arm(Zetsu's arm) used Mokuton. Not him. 2nd picture is just nonsense, it was the Juubi's hand, not Obito neither Zetsu's.

Is this guy for real?

 

[MarkPaul]

Yeah you're right Obito can just walk right through all their attacks. He doesn't have to bother hitting them. He can instantly go to Kabuto. You say Kabuto w. Edos and now you try to switch it up and say he's hiding. Make up your mind. Obito can't lose get over it.

Hiding doesnt mean im removing Kabuto out. Its strategy like because he knows how Obito will just try to move him to different dimension and control him. Also Obito cant lose? You're like saying Naruto wont defeat Obito in the end. He cant dodge everyone's attacks. His dodge have interval seconds which is a chance for every Edo's to attack. Edo's have all -jutsu user so Obito cant just dodge it easily.

Is this guy for real?

He's using spiral zetsu's jutsu. Thats what i meant. So without Spiral Zetsu's hashirama cells, do you really think he can se mokuton?

 

[Bogard]

1st picture you showed me how his right arm(Zetsu's arm) used Mokuton. Not him. 2nd picture is just nonsense, it was the Juubi's hand, not Obito neither Zetsu's.

Lol and Sasuke's EMS used Susanoo, not him. For the second pictures look again and you will notice that Obito is the one using the jutsu by transfering it into Juubi's arm to create it in a larger scale. Look at the name of the jutsu btw(Mokuton Sashiki), and you will notice it's the same jutsu he used in the flash back(you can look it directly on the first pic i posted. It's also written mokuton sashiki). Obito is the one who used the jutsu. Only that he increased the power and scale of it

 

[Dantee]

Hiding doesnt mean im removing Kabuto out. Its strategy like because he knows how Obito will just try to move him to different dimension and control him. Also Obito cant lose? You're like saying Naruto wont defeat Obito in the end. He cant dodge everyone's attacks. His dodge have interval seconds which is a chance for every Edo's to attack. Edo's have all -jutsu user so Obito cant just dodge it easily.

I can easily say Obito can leave the field and go look for Kabuto now what? Obito's interval means nothing. No one since Obito was 14 has been able to take advantage of that. Obito can't be touched unless Kakashi is there as it stands now. If Kabuto is hiding that means it's no longer a battle now is it? This is my last post seeing as you're retardly bias and your arguments are poor.

 

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Lord Kabuto shits on obito .....

 

[OnPoint]

Of course Obito can use Mokuton, he's a Rikudō with Uchiha and Senju DNA entwined into his body (it's not merely the Spiral Zetsu) [

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[MarkPaul]

I can easily say Obito can leave the field and go look for Kabuto now what? Obito's interval means nothing. No one since Obito was 14 has been able to take advantage of that. Obito can't be touched unless Kakashi is there as it stands now. If Kabuto is hiding that means it's no longer a battle now is it? This is my last post seeing as you're retardly bias and your arguments are poor.

Bias? Im just tryin to defend my thread against a fanboyism. Yeah you havent seen anyone take advantage of it, but that doesnt mean its impossible.

Lol and Sasuke's EMS used Susanoo, not him. For the second pictures look again and you will notice that Obito is the one using the jutsu by transfering it into Juubi's arm to create it in a larger scale. Look at the name of the jutsu btw(Mokuton Sashiki), and you will notice it's the same jutsu he used in the flash back(you can look it directly on the first pic i posted. It's also written mokuton sashiki). Obito is the one who used the jutsu. Only that he increased the power and scale of it

And the Hashirama cells was from Spiral Zetsu, so without Zetsu he really cant use Mokuton.

 

[Bogard]

And the Hashirama cells was from Spiral Zetsu, so without Zetsu he really cant use Mokuton.

Lmao, why talking about it anyway? He has Hashirama cells now, so deal with it? If you really wanted to restrict Obito without Hashirama cells, you could have said it before on your first post. Since you didn't restrict it, he can use it, simple. It's as if you were saying that Edo Madara can't use Mokuton without Hashi cells. Of course he can't, but why talking about it? The fact is that currently he has it, so there is no reason for you to saying it as if he doesn't

Btw where is it stated that his hashi cells come from spiral zetsu?

 

[MarkPaul]

Of course Obito can use Mokuton, he's a Rikudō with Uchiha and Senju DNA entwined into his body (it's not merely the Spiral Zetsu) [

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Im just trying to pinpoint that without Madara makingSpiral Zetsu from Hashirama's cells and without Spiral Zetsu entwined to his body he cant use mokuton. Correct me if im wrong bro。

Lmao, why talking about it anyway? He has Hashirama cells now, so deal with it? If you really wanted to restrict Obito without Hashirama cells, you could have said it before on your first post. Since you didn't restrict it, he can use it, simple. It's as if you were saying that Edo Madara can't use Mokuton without Hashi cells. Of course he can't, but why talking about it? The fact is that currently he has it, so there is no reason for you to saying it as if he doesn't

Btw where is it stated that his hashi cells come from spiral zetsu?

Spiral Zetsu was made from Hashi's cells, without Zetsu entwined to his body he cant use Mokuton. I didnt said he cant use Mokuton. Its just that i doubt he can use it at first.

 

[OnPoint]

Im just trying to pinpoint that without Madara makingSpiral Zetsu from Hashirama's cells and without Spiral Zetsu entwined to his body he cant use mokuton. Correct me if im wrong bro。

Spiral Zetsu was never part of Obito's body. Madara entwined Hashirama's cells (in the form of Zetsu goo) into his body - Spiral Zetsu was just a suit which Obito wore whilst his body was still recovering. Obito can use Mokuton without Spiral Zetsu.

 

[MarkPaul]

Spiral Zetsu was never part of Obito's body. Madara entwined Hashirama's cells (in the form of Zetsu goo) into his body - Spiral Zetsu was just a suit which Obito wore whilst his body was still recovering. Obito can use Mokuton without Spiral Zetsu.

Never? I saw before in a chapter that Spiral Zetsu was like worn by Obito and i never saw it taken off by Obito. Thats why im still believing that he is still on Obito's body bro.