KARUMA should have YIN -YANG [DISCUSSION]

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KURAMA should have YIN -YANG [DISCUSSION]

Its a LONG READ AHEAD , kindly read it from top to bottom :D

The reason I don't like to discuss these is that Naruto's feats are object of conflicts in this forum. Otherwise, it should be clear that Kurama has both his Yin and Yang. Why?

In my opinion, Yin and Yang are chakra, and they are not will. People can grow their body, so does the tailed beasts. Kurama grew within Naruto while feeding on Naruto's chakra. The manga state clearly that for every beat of Kurama's chakra Naruto uses, Kurama chops an equivalent amount of Naruto's chakra which is a combination of Yin/Yang. Here are some links to reference the fact that Kurama feed on Naruto's chakra.

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"Wheter kyuubi actually has taken Naruto's chakra through his whole life or only after Naruto opened the key" and i think it's the latter, cuz otherwise Naruto would be toasted, if Kyuubi would take his chakra up.
That's why i believe that Kyuubi might have taken only small portion of Naruto chakra after he opened key and that might have caused growing. Certainlly Kyuubi si not as big or strong as he was when he attacked Konoha.
Taking[sealing with shiki fujin] yin chakra as Minato did, has made kurama much less stronger.


Given that Kurama feed on Naruto's chakra, it is clear that Kurama can replenish either of his chakra over time. The reason many people don't like the idea of Kurama having his Yin is that they think Naruto will do some Genjutsu. Besides, check this:

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Here Kurama said that because of the prison, he could give Naruto only a tiny bit of his chakra. Then, the question is what Naruto took from Kurama during the chakra war? Was it not Kurama's chakra?

I believe that Naruto has taken kyuubi's chakra soul, hatred , will ...it just comes with it and its only a matter of subdueing it ... what's really unclear is which chakra did naruto subdue and how much is of that chakra..Was that only a partial chakra, was that chakra Kyuubi has at that point...if bijuu recreates itself or reincarnates after he's dead it certainly means that he is collecting chakra for growth, but also we have seen kyuubi junior, it would mean that it also requires some time to grow.

But let's go back on the topic :

I still think that part of Kyuubi' chakra is sealed in Shiki fujin..and more will Naruto use KM, more chakra especially dormant yin powers of naruto, kyuubi will take. As u suggested kyuubi will grow stronger and bigger.
He certainly wasn't bigger than other bijuus, but he should have been big of epic proportions, when Madara for example confronted him.

And the whole point is, whether naruto will be able to use Yin which probably Kurama is collecting.
 
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if kyuubi can replenish its chakra out of naruto, then why should naruto harbour kyuubi. He has enough chakra himself.
I agree that kyuubi took some naruto's chakra whenever naruto was in kyuubi's chakra mode, but that can't compensate for the huge reserves of chakra kyuubi contained earlier.
Finally, yes it has some bits of naruto's yin and yang chakra.
 

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if kyuubi can replenish its chakra out of naruto, then why should naruto harbour kyuubi. He has enough chakra himself.

I agree that kyuubi took some naruto's chakra whenever naruto was in kyuubi's chakra mode, but that can't compensate for the huge reserves of chakra kyuubi contained earlier.
Finally, yes it has some bits of naruto's yin and yang chakra.

you misunderstood it bro.. its not that the kyuubi replenish its chakra from naruto but the yin part... every little chakra kyuubi gets from naruto is both yin - yang.. and the kyuubi do not depend on naruto to replenish but it takes time to renew his chakra and grow


yes .. agree with this ...

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you misunderstood it bro.. its not that the kyuubi replenish its chakra from naruto but the yin part... every little chakra kyuubi gets from naruto is both yin - yang.. and the kyuubi do not depend on naruto to replenish but it takes time to renew his chakra and grow




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But mate, you have written that' with time the kyuubi can replenish either of its chakra' which I don't think it can.
Btw, as said earlier, it has both yin and yang chakra. Yang chakra way greater than yin chakra acquired out of naruto.
 

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But mate, you have written that' with time the kyuubi can replenish either of its chakra' which I don't think it can.
Btw, as said earlier, it has both yin and yang chakra. Yang chakra way greater than yin chakra acquired out of naruto.

well.. i believe the opposite... as long as he has naruto he can.. in time ....
 

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well.. i believe the opposite... as long as he has naruto he can.. in time ....
But why would minato put a parasite in naruto who gives as much chakra as it sucks. That would mean naruto doesn't get any advantage of being a jinchuuriki which is not the case.
 

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But why would minato put a parasite in naruto who gives as much chakra as it sucks. That would mean naruto doesn't get any advantage of being a jinchuuriki which is not the case.

you remember in the manga the part where minato actually believe that his son naruto would one day gain control of the kyuubi ... so minato doent not consider the kyuubi a parasite..
 

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you remember in the manga the part where minato actually believe that his son naruto would one day gain control of the kyuubi ... so minato doent not consider the kyuubi a parasite..

Yes, but your thread makes it look like one.
 

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now i done reading.. haha.. its really good dude
 

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I wanted to use gin and kin's logic here but it seems kishi knows how to cover his tracks well had it be gin n kin had kurama's yin and yang i would be 100% sure it possible it obv gin and kin ate kurama's chakra to survive it logical if kurama did the same but according to manga even though kurama had yin yang the brothers(gin kin) had only kurama's yang.it almost impossible to believe that the bros only got kurama's yang cause at that time they were in kurama's stomach kurama still had his yin chkra they should have it too but know.i guess kishi didn't want kurama to gain his yin through naruto's yin that's why he stopped our ability to pridict how kurama will gain back his yin by using gin kin logic.so my question is why did gin kni have only kurama's yang? . my explaination above may sound too lame and it not that i m doubt you nah i m in support of your post i also think when kurama comes back he will be a lil diff from before kuarama said that naruto need his chakra to defeat the juubi so i think kishi is cooking up a surprise for us
 

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I wanted to use gin and kin's logic here but it seems kishi knows how to cover his tracks well had it be gin n kin had kurama's yin and yang i would be 100% sure it possible it obv gin and kin ate kurama's chakra to survive it logical if kurama did the same but according to manga even though kurama had yin yang the brothers(gin kin) had only kurama's yang.it almost impossible to believe that the bros only got kurama's yang cause at that time they were in kurama's stomach kurama still had his yin chkra they should have it too but know.i guess kishi didn't want kurama to gain his yin through naruto's yin that's why he stopped our ability to pridict how kurama will gain back his yin by using gin kin logic.so my question is why did gin kni have only kurama's yang? . my explaination above may sound too lame and it not that i m doubt you nah i m in support of your post i also think when kurama comes back he will be a lil diff from before kuarama said that naruto need his chakra to defeat the juubi so i think kishi is cooking up a surprise for us


haha. yes the gin and kin.. i was hoping no one will mention that in the thread... haha but i guess the gin and kin has the yin chakra but for kishi not showing and explaining it maybe your right he has a surpirse for us :D

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I got a rep from negative knight.. that surely means somethin right? haha ... im flattered just want to tell you all haha.. :p
 

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Maybe the Yang chakra was overriting the Yin chakra as the amout of Yang chakra present in Kurama's body was larger than the Yin???
 
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