America is looking at removing the 2nd amednment.

[DietyOfWind]

I'm not countering your points on guns and the evil uses that can be done with them. If the government repeals the 2nd Amendment, this will be the first time that something in the Bill of Rights has been repealed. It gives precedent to take away other rights that we have. First our right to bear arms. Then it could be our freedom of speech. Where does it stop?

thats such a weak argument they would only be taking it away cause it was extreamely outdated and was a danger to others in this society.

 

[Robot Boy]

i dont need to know you or how you are or how you think all i know is that you support people with guns when all they do is kill with delousions that you will be able to get to it before an intruder,even worse if you have kids. People like you fang are what make it easy for people to take guns from others to go and slaughter others it wont matter how strict they make guns till their banned. It far too easy for people to get guns as it is and taking it from others makes it far easier and with all the myan calendar nuts thinking the world will end and i bet that the school was just the start i bet more nutjobs are probably gonna attack soon too probably with more guns.

Oh so its my fault? Its my fault that those kids are dead? get real and I don't support those nutjobs don't put me in the same league as them.tch. I just don't think the amendment needs to be removed. And they have no right to remove it.

 

[DietyOfWind]

the government only really takes away a right for a specific security reason for out protection not cause their out to take away rights just so its easier on society and to make sure they can stop terrorism other than that they don't mess with rights that much and usually do what the majority rule wans as far as new laws and old laws being added and removed.

 

[TheSyren]

The government is not allowed to repeal the first ammendment. It's in the bill of rights, which is protected from such actions.

 

[DietyOfWind]

a bunch of kids got murdered for thats stupid amendment they have every right to remove it its old and unneccessary in this era.

 

[DietyOfWind]

The government is not allowed to repeal the first ammendment. It's in the bill of rights, which is protected from such actions.

its the second amendment and part of it with guns has to be changed so that guns are illegal.Far less people will die that way

 

[TheSyren]

its the second amendment and part of it with guns has to be changed so that guns are illegal.Far less people will die that way

People die everyday. It's tragic most of the time, but that's how life goes. However, removing the amendment is a double edged sword. It would strip away weapons from some people and protection from others. How do you expect regular people to protect themselves from criminals who carry guns illegally? There will be even more deaths.

 

[DietyOfWind]

To be honest fang if you didn't argue to keep guns in light of the kids getting murdered then it woulda made you much more of a decent person but right now your arguing a useless worthless commandment that caused a ton of people to get massacared and will probably get more killed cause your all too proud of your stupid guns. You would rather have dozens of people die just so you can keep your gun nut hobby afloat than to honestly admit that guns are the problem which they clearly are and for that you should feel bad cause god forbid those were your kids you would be completely against guns and for that you should feel bad heck a feel bad for you now with how wrong that seems that you much rather prefer to keep a stupid weapon than for many others to be safe in the world.

 

[DietyOfWind]

People die everyday. It's tragic most of the time, but that's how life goes. However, removing the amendment is a double edged sword. It would strip away weapons from some people and protection from others. How do you expect regular people to protect themselves from criminals who carry guns illegally? There will be even more deaths.

there are many other ways a panic room move to a better neighborhood an alarm system for burglers so they run away when they hear it a big dog a stun gun those are a few ways people get protected from people that might would have guns heck you can even try ramming them with a riot shield if you can find one online which i bet you can.You could also probably buy tear gas online somewhere if its not illegal and escape that way.in your own home or a museum everything could be a weapon.If your not feeling safe might be able to get a cop to circle your block a few times which scares people off.

 

[Robot Boy]

To be honest fang if you didn't argue to keep guns in light of the kids getting murdered then it woulda made you much more of a decent person but right now your arguing a useless worthless commandment that caused a ton of people to get massacared and will probably get more killed cause your all too proud of your stupid guns. You would rather have dozens of people die just so you can keep your gun nut hobby afloat than to honestly admit that guns are the problem which they clearly are and for that you should feel bad cause god forbid those were your kids you would be completely against guns and for that you should feel bad heck a feel bad for you now with how wrong that seems that you much rather prefer to keep a stupid weapon than for many others to be safe in the world.

Hobby?....prefer?....are you mad?..again you don't know me so stop making assumptions of me. I care about my loved ones thats why I want to protect them. When did I say cared more about guns than people? I just don't want my rights to be messed with so back off cuz now your getting personal.

 

[TheSyren]

there are many other ways a panic room move to a better neighborhood an alarm system for burglers so they run away when they hear it a big dog a stun gun those are a few ways people get protected from people that might would have guns heck you can even try ramming them with a riot shield if you can find one online which i bet you can.You could also probably buy tear gas online somewhere if its not illegal and escape that way.in your own home or a museum everything could be a weapon.If your not feeling safe might be able to get a cop to circle your block a few times which scares people off.

Dude, no offense, but how is a riot shield going to help you? Next time you're being assaulted at home without any warning and tell me how your shield helped you. Then, tell me, after you've been hiding in the closet for 3 hours, how the tear gas you used helped you. Or that after you stunned the first guy, how you managed to stun the other guy who watched you stun his comrade. People purchase guns to protect themselves from other people with guns. Not everyone is a lunatic like that guy. That's like saying Islam should be banned because bin laden was bad, or that dairy products should be banned because some people are allergic to milk. More good has come from guns then bad. So get up off of your high horse before we drag you off.

 

[DietyOfWind]

Hobby?....prefer?....are you mad?..again you don't know me so stop making assumptions of me. I care about my loved ones thats why I want to protect them. When did I say cared more about guns than people? I just don't want my rights to be messed with so back off cuz now your getting personal.

that right has no place anymore so why even have it at all after all at any time a loved one might just use your guns to kill a bunch of kids in a school which i have said countless times and no one can post a counter argument to because its true who cares if people cant get guns themselves they just take other peoples and kill them at the same time out of convienience and if any of this happened to any of us we would care a great deal more.I'm saying that fang it doesn't really care because the least he/she could do is say ya they should do something about guns rather than just people will always get guns and kill cause its not always true or at the very least your reasoning behind what happened.

 

[zayYz]

You can't stop incidents like the one in Connecticut by taking away guns. At that point they move to knifes, home made bombs, and so on. By no means should the Second Amendment be removed. They should simply place more regulations on the time and qualifications it requires to own fire arms. There should also be mandatory background checks. It's not about people having guns; it's about who gets them.

indeed i totaly agree with you i live in germany and it's not a big deal u can buy weapons in poland cheap and travel back to germany.the customs cant do anything idk its a legal loophole :/

 

[Robot Boy]

that right has no place anymore so why even have it at all after all at any time a loved one might just use your guns to kill a bunch of kids in a school which i have said countless times and no one can post a counter argument to because its true who cares if people cant get guns themselves they just take other peoples and kill them at the same time out of convienience and if any of this happened to any of us we would care a great deal more.I'm saying that fang it doesn't really care because the least he/she could do is say ya they should do something about guns rather than just people will always get guns and kill cause its not always true or at the very least your reasoning behind what happened.

I got one thing to say to that...DON'T...YOU DARE...DRAG...MY..LOVED ONES...INTO THIS DEBATE. Or we are gonna have a serious problem.

 

[TheSyren]

indeed i totaly agree with you i live in germany and it's not a big deal u can buy weapons in poland cheap and travel back to germany.the customs cant do anything idk its a legal loophole :/

I'm with you and whoever else agrees with you.

Off subject, is it nice in Germany right now? I was thinking about vacationing there.

 

[zayYz]

I'm with you and whoever else agrees with you.

Off subject, is it nice in Germany right now? I was thinking about vacationing there.

right now its cold but yeah u should def. check hamburg Kiez and maybe now in winter munich it snows hard there

 

[DietyOfWind]

Dude, no offense, but how is a riot shield going to help you? Next time you're being assaulted at home without any warning and tell me how your shield helped you. Then, tell me, after you've been hiding in the closet for 3 hours, how the tear gas you used helped you. Or that after you stunned the first guy, how you managed to stun the other guy who watched you stun his comrade. People purchase guns to protect themselves from other people with guns. Not everyone is a lunatic like that guy. That's like saying Islam should be banned because bin laden was bad, or that dairy products should be banned because some people are allergic to milk. More good has come from guns then bad. So get up off of your high horse before we drag you off.

no more good has not come from guns than bad people die in both cases no matter who shoots.the stuff i said earlier were suggestions of what you could use to protect yourself or to get away.by the way riot shields take bullets genious they don't go through you can ram them with the riot shield till you knock them out.Panic rooms have a full stock of food to hold out for days usually and often times a phone to the outside world.the last things you said about bin laden and milk were just idiotic and don't even fit the theme of you escaping from armed robbers unless their alergic to milk and you spit milk on him and his throat closes causing him to suffocate to death.Tear gass they both would be choking and blinded leaving time to escape and or to get help. a stun gun could work if it was the projectile one that i think britian has not sure about the model that has the prongs that shoot out to stun either way its a good chance to escape or to tie them up and call the poliece if one gets stunned the other sure as heck isn't sticking around to get caught.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

i dont need to know you or how you are or how you think all i know is that you support people with guns when all they do is kill with delousions that you will be able to get to it before an intruder,even worse if you have kids. People like you fang are what make it easy for people to take guns from others to go and slaughter others it wont matter how strict they make guns till their banned. It far too easy for people to get guns as it is and taking it from others makes it far easier and with all the myan calendar nuts thinking the world will end and i bet that the school was just the start i bet more nutjobs are probably gonna attack soon too probably with more guns.

Looking at all your post,you obviously don't know what you're talking about .

1.
You act like you know everything about guns and that the only people that are allowed to have guns are " law enforcement ".

You have every right to own a gun,to protect your self. That is from a nut head with a home made weapon (yes people can make home made guns),a corrupted government ,or an invading military.

If the enforcement are allowed to have guns,then so do citizens.

People agreeing to remove the 2 amendment,are just morons or afraid ( yet not afraid for the government ).


2.

People like you fang are what make it easy for people to take guns from others to go and slaughter others it wont matter how strict they make guns till their banned....
It far too easy for people to get guns as it is and taking it from others makes it far easier

Oh ok, so by your logic if a law enforcement were to have his/her gun "taken" away by a nut head and that guy start killing others,it's still alright for law enforcement to still have guns.

While if a thief were to,some how got a hold of the owner gun and starting using it to kill everybody,it's shame on all citizens that are gun owners. And that all guns should be removed/banned from good citizens.


Your just looking at one side of the problem and not looking at the other end.
Sure guns could be bad at the wrong hands but why would you trust the law enforcement?
They are people as well,and if one day a guy breaks down from stress,etc what is stopping him from using his gun. Their are cops,etc that have taken it to far during arrest.


P.s

Not a gun owner,but I believe people should have the right to have a gun.

The 2 amendment shouldn't be removed and that there need to be better background check and a test to see your mental health every few months or a year.

Also need to watch what drugs they are taking,as some can affect a person brain.

 

[Narukarin16]

well they don't necessarily have to remove it just stricter gun control policies.

 

[DietyOfWind]

I got one thing to say to that...DON'T...YOU DARE...DRAG...MY..LOVED ONES...INTO THIS DEBATE. Or we are gonna have a serious problem.

That's what this whole thing is about loved ones taking other loved ones weapons and murdering them and a school if you weren't ready to debate this then don't join this topic that's why their debating the second amendment so if you put yourself in their shoes and make a well thought out choice. but honestly what would you do if a loved one took your gun killed you then attacked a school.