Kisame vs. Deva Path

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Can Great Shark Bullet eat the black chakra from
Chibaku Tensei.
 

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daaang yall really think Kisame wont beat him?

Kisame can solo all pains individually. Deva is going to be the most difficult though
 

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daaang yall really think Kisame wont beat him?

Kisame can solo all pains individually. Deva is going to be the most difficult though
Mind explaining your views? I'm interested.
 

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Shinra Tensei is dangerous but it's not gonna one shot someone like Kisame.

Kisame is pretty smart too once he notice that he is blasting every 5 secs he can use that as an advantage.

Banshō Ten'in (the pulling in) gives Kisame the advantage to get closer to Deva (swordsmen skills) And Kisame clearly defeats him in Taijutsu.

Chibaku Tensei: Pain has to leave for prep. Kisame viewing this would observed that he is planing a big one. GSB will take care of it.
 

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Deva Path - Low-mid diff
 

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Shinra Tensei is dangerous but it's not gonna one shot someone like Kisame.

Kisame is pretty smart too once he notice that he is blasting every 5 secs he can use that as an advantage.

Banshō Ten'in (the pulling in) gives Kisame the advantage to get closer to Deva (swordsmen skills) And Kisame clearly defeats him in Taijutsu.

Chibaku Tensei: Pain has to leave for prep. Kisame viewing this would observed that he is planing a big one. GSB will take care of it.
Shinra Tensei easily OHKO the boss summons, why would Kisame be different ? He could heal himself, but that would take time, allowing Deva to make a Chibaku, which does actually not take a long time at all to do.
 

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Whoa I didnt think it would be such a rape..
I tough Great Shark Bomb was a good counter for Chibaku tensei.

Well guess I was wrong xD
 

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Shinra Tensei is dangerous but it's not gonna one shot someone like Kisame.

Kisame is pretty smart too once he notice that he is blasting every 5 secs he can use that as an advantage.

Banshō Ten'in (the pulling in) gives Kisame the advantage to get closer to Deva (swordsmen skills) And Kisame clearly defeats him in Taijutsu.

Chibaku Tensei: Pain has to leave for prep. Kisame viewing this would observed that he is planing a big one. GSB will take care of it.

Horrible counters for Deva's moves

@bold1: Its not going to one shot someone like him? Explanation please because it took out 3 Boss Toads with one hit. And how will he use it to his advantage, again, explanation please.
@bold2: Bansho Tennin can pull him to Deva's hand, he isn't going to have time to attack him when he is busy getting choke slammed on the gorund.
@bold3: Shinra Tensei easily takes care of that GSB.
 

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Horrible counters for Deva's moves

@bold1: Its not going to one shot someone like him? Explanation please because it took out 3 Boss Toads with one hit. And how will he use it to his advantage, again, explanation please.
ABC logic won't because Kakashi Naruto, and Bee didn't.

@bold2: Bansho Tennin can pull him to Deva's hand, he isn't going to have time to attack him when he is busy getting choke slammed on the gorund.
What do you mean you not going to have enough time? Are you serious? And you told me my arguments are weak?
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@bold3: Shinra Tensei easily takes care of that GSB.

Nope GSB will absorb the little ball.
 

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Nope GSB will absorb the little ball.

What ABC Logic? That only works for fights, not seeing the effectiveness of an attack on a character....unless Kisame is shown to be more durable than the three Boss Toads then a big enough Shinra Tensei will take him out.

Lol, I like how you assumed he would use it long range, even though he knows about Kisame's fighting style. The only reason Kakashi had time is because it was from far away.


See how close he was? Kisame isn't doing anything to Deva with that distance.....its not like Bansho Tennin should be used anyway.

GSB absorbs chakra, not a giant black ball of gravity.
 

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What ABC Logic? That only works for fights, not seeing the effectiveness of an attack on a character....unless Kisame is shown to be more durable than the three Boss Toads then a big enough Shinra Tensei will take him out.
The bigger you are the harder you fall, unlike these characters that tanked it just fine:
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Lol, I like how you assumed he would use it long range, even though he knows about Kisame's fighting style. The only reason Kakashi had time is because it was from far away.

I could assume the scenario can play both way. Pulling himself in will not make Deva defeat Kisame up close

See how close he was? Kisame isn't doing anything to Deva with that distance.....its not like Bansho Tennin should be used anyway.
Again using this tech means he has to be confident to take out his opponent up close. He would dare do it to Kakashi without Asura pain helping him out. He wouldn't dare do it to SM Naruto without Pretra Path to be there to absorb the sage out of him. Thats why it was best to catch Naruto at base form. Deva wouldn't dare trying to solo Kisame with him pulling him to himself. Bansho Tenin shouldn't be use at all.


GSB absorbs chakra, not a giant black ball of gravity.
So a ball of Gravity it not made from ninjutsu, right.
At least conclude Kisame has durability feats and Stamina please I dont' want to post alot of scans >_>
 

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At least conclude Kisame has durability feats and Stamina please I dont' want to post alot of scans >_>

Shinra Tensei gets stronger depending on how much force Deva puts into it...while it won't KO him in one shot, he isn't tanking a big enough one.

I'm just gonna drop Bansho Tennin as it is useless.

Doesn't matter if it is made from Ninjutsu, its gravity, nothing more nothing less. Nagato uses his chakra to power the Gravity Ball.

The Gravity Ball is thrown up there, and Nagato uses his chakra to make the ball pull objects towards.

Shinra Tensei is Ninjutsu but can GSB absorb it? Nope.
 

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Kisame has the advantage if the Deva path doesn't use CT quickly, since it'll be easy for him to abuse the 5 second delay between his ST attacks/defenses. He's going to take a bit of time to figure out that there's a time limit but he also has amazing stamina. I don't think he could destroy the CT orb though - it IS Nagato's ultimate attack anyways.
 

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Shinra Tensei gets stronger depending on how much force Deva puts into it...while it won't KO him in one shot, he isn't tanking a big enough one.
As look as we conclude he won't be dead from getting shot. Samehada heals

I'm just gonna drop Bansho Tennin as it is useless.
If the battle plays with no knowledge I wonder if he would try

Doesn't matter if it is made from Ninjutsu, its gravity, nothing more nothing less. Nagato uses his chakra to power the Gravity Ball.
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The Gravity Ball is thrown up there, and Nagato uses his chakra to make the ball pull objects towards.
Thats easier for GSM to automatically aim (Just like Itachi plan, but delayed only because to explain to Naruto and Bee)

Shinra Tensei is Ninjutsu but can GSB absorb it? Yup
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Whatever.

Since OP didn't specify knowledge, knowledge is automatically Manga knowledge, and Pain has knowledge on all of the Akatsuki, Kisame included.

GSB isn't destroying nor absorbing the black sphere.

It isn't destroying it because it doesn't even come near the firepower of a Bijuu Dama+RasenShuriken+Yasaka's Magatama, which was needed to destroy the core.

It isn't absorbing it either because it is gravity, the fact that you think it can absorb Shinra Tensei makes me not want to take you seriously....Shinra Tensei is pushing someone using Gravity, by saying it can absorb any of these attacks, you are saying it can absorb gravity, which is idiotic.
 

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Whatever.

Since OP didn't specify knowledge, knowledge is automatically Manga knowledge, and Pain has knowledge on all of the Akatsuki, Kisame included.

GSB isn't destroying nor absorbing the black sphere.
IS there proof that it wouldn't absorb?

It isn't destroying it because it doesn't even come near the firepower of a Bijuu Dama+RasenShuriken+Yasaka's Magatama, which was needed to destroy the core.
Their fire power failed because the jutsu already started building up.

It isn't absorbing it either because it is gravity, the fact that you think it can absorb Shinra Tensei makes me not want to take you seriously....
I didn't say ST I said CT, don't put words in my post

Shinra Tensei is pushing someone using Gravity, by saying it can absorb any of these attacks, you are saying it can absorb gravity, which is idiotic.
Again I didn't say ST I said CT two different attacks
Shinra Tensei is the Deva Path's ability to manipulate repulsive force (斥力, sekiryoku) at the user's will to push matter or ninja techniques away.[1] Depending on the amount of force the user puts in this technique.

Chibaku Tensei is a special technique developed by the Sage of the Six Paths through the Deva Path, who used it to create the moon and trap the Ten-Tails' body inside of it.

The user creates a dark black sphere of gravity that when thrown into the sky, attracts objects from all directions and pulls them into the sphere compressing them simultaneously.

What makes the black orb so strong?
 
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