Tsunade vs Gaara- The final debate

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

State Location, Intel, Distance, ect. ect.

Im incline to say Gaara is superior to Tsunade. Tsunade wouldn't be able to Escape if Sand Tsunami Lands. Then Theres Also Sabaku So so and Sabaku Taiso. The Strength factor can be remidied with more sand.

Katsuya would be at a distinct dissadvantage depending on the level of salinity in the location.

And Tsunade Just Cracked Susanoo, She isn't Just going to run through Gaara's defense. Naruto is the only one that can break Susanoo with only a physical punch (Via The bitchslap he used to knock away the Bijudamas)

Sand Shuriken and Sand Drizzle would chip away at Tsunade. And She would have a hard time getting through Saikō Zettai Bōgyo: Shukaku no Tate

Everything you wrote is already countered by Chatte, Tazzilla, JTO and me
Please read every comment before posting.

And welcome to NB

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Everything you wrote is already countered by Chatte, Tazzilla, JTO and me
Please read the every comment before posting.

And welcome to NB

I'll Give it a look. I've been around on MangaFox debating for a few years and i dont think i'll see anything new.


Thanks

*Edit

I Didn't see anythign that countered anything i posted, but i replied to just about every argument for Tsunade i saw below. (i was skimming threw the thread since im in a rush)

anyways Incoming post thats long as phuck


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And this is where you're wrong, no offence.
It didn't devastated Kimimaro. He should've been squashed, yet he was not.
And here I am talking about his skin tissues and everything like that, excluding the bones.
And from the responses you're giving, I already see where this is going...so yeah.

When another "pet", which happened to be in a quite small size will withstand Chibaku tensei + Naruto's corrosive chakra or being ripped to shreds, please call me.

Kimmimaro is more durable than Tsunade, the only reason he escaped was because of Sawarabi no mai.

Well it happens that she is stronger than the ones you mentioned there. And let's not forget that Kimimaro's bullet things were about to pass through his Sand thing.
Anyway, I don't want to evolve it now as I am preparing a bigger picture here.
Oh, and one more thing, let's not foget that Chakra can destroy chakra. Remember Part 1 fight of Neji with Kidomaru when it was stated that.



Yeah, since she's the one moving while being cut in 2 and Gaara isn't.
If you're going to bring me these childish comments, I can bring you these types of comments on an on.
Not hard to do it.

Gaara's Sand is STronger now, Thats undisputabel (spelling?).

People on Narutobase take the whole Chakra vs Chakra thing to far. Like Saying Kaiten can Disrupt Susanoo is insane. Tsuande's punch having chakra doesn't magically make it able to get through gaara's sand.

Not much?
A wasn't able to destroy Sasuke's Susanoo ribcage, but Tsunade destroyed Madara's Susanoo's ribcage easily. I think this is a significant difference.

What should I reply to this? It was stated that those who see Madara's Final Susanoo die. The Gokage is still alive.

Incomplete Susanoo > Gaara's defence
Tsunade' punch > Incomplete Susanoo
Tsunade' punch > Gaara' s defence

But this not means that she wins. It doesn't matter if she can break it through or not, because Gaara can make an another Shield. And if Tsunade can't land a direct hit to Gaara she can't defeat him.

Tsunade did not Break Sussanoo. She Mearly Cracked it.

Gaara was able to Casually Block A's Kick and Multiple Susanoo swords. She can get through a normal layer of sand but not anything Susbstantially thick, Which Gaara can easily bring up since Tsuande doesn't have any real speed abilities. The Instant She Tries to get through and real defense. Gaara just blocks and uses Sabaku SoSo - Sabaku Taiso in one smooth motion, if she uses Byakugayo. He Proceeds to send her underground and let pressure eat away at her.

Firstly im not a girl. secondly you study the abilities and you will see that gaara doesnt stand a chance against tsunade, that guy is jutt overrated by people like you, you tell me what gaara has that can kill tsunade. her slug can protect her from almost anything as she said she is highly durable, and she was able to survive chibaku tensei and shinra tensei and also the corrosive chakra from the ninetails and last i checked, gaara's sand isnt that bad if compared to those i just mentioned. Tsunade has alot of battle experience and can use the ground to her advantage. Gaara has nothing to kill her, she is nearly immortal in battle. one hit to his neck or any other body part can damage him, she can cut his muscles with her scalpel and also disrupt his nervous system, something he cant get out of, but no use in changing your opinion

Depending on location Gaara can beat Katsuya with Salinity in the sand. Or just Send Katsuya underground with Tsunade.

The Susanoo was destroyed before the Raikage and Onoki arrived. He just knocked down Madara to the ground.

Well Tsunade KO-d a 20 m high Susanoo when she was impaled with two Susanoo swords. I think that punch wasn't full-powered.

All She did was knock it to the ground. She didn't break it or even so much as crack it.

Just agree already. Susano is not greater than Gaara's defense, he can make defences ranging from a sphere to a massive shield that can block a whole village against c3, one of the most powerful juts us in Naruto. He could also incorporate the hardest minerals into his defense to make it extremely hard. She cannot even touch Gaara let alone defeat him and you are forgetting sand hail which will keep messing her up and he could also sink her along with her summon and she will definitely die from suffocation, lung collapse and extremes of pressures.

Susanoo is Stronger than the Sand Defense. Tahts Undisputable. Perfect Susanoo could tank C3

2 flaws with this, if she sends nervous impulses to his nervous system then he will be rendered useless as he cant control any part of his nervous system,even kabuto, a strong medical ninja was having trouble for a few minutes, but eventually overcame it as he is a highly trained medical ninja, gaara on the other hand isnt a medical ninja and cannot overcome this, so tsunade beats him there, and also she can activate byakgou in seconds without the use of handseals

She would have to touch Gaara. Which is very unlikely. Gaara also doesn't need to move his body to control the sand, he can't do it without the signs and hand motions, They just help make it more accurate and make use easier.

 

[Curse Mark]

Tsunade better not let him go airborne if she wants to stand a fighting chance...

I don't know.. I'm pretty sure she has the capability to jump that high, or to use a summoning(I can't remember her main summoning.. Katsuyu or something). But she wouldn't just automatically lose because of that.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

I don't know.. I'm pretty sure she has the capability to jump that high, or to use a summoning(I can't remember her main summoning.. Katsuyu or something). But she wouldn't just automatically lose because of that.

Indeed, she can jump very high.
She jumped with Gamabunta's sword high enough to defeat Manda.
She jumped higher then a Complete Susanoo ( which is like 3O meters higher then her )

 

[Curse Mark]

And this helps support my comment:

Indeed, she can jump very high.
She jumped with Gamabunta's sword high enough to defeat Manda.
She jumped higher then a Complete Susanoo ( which is like 3O meters higher then her )

Thanks

 

[Horus]

I'll Give it a look. I've been around on MangaFox debating for a few years and i dont think i'll see anything new.


Thanks

*Edit

I Didn't see anythign that countered anything i posted, but i replied to just about every argument for Tsunade i saw below. (i was skimming threw the thread since im in a rush)

anyways Incoming post thats long as phuck


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Kimmimaro is more durable than Tsunade, the only reason he escaped was because of Sawarabi no mai.



Gaara's Sand is STronger now, Thats undisputabel (spelling?).

People on Narutobase take the whole Chakra vs Chakra thing to far. Like Saying Kaiten can Disrupt Susanoo is insane. Tsuande's punch having chakra doesn't magically make it able to get through gaara's sand.




Tsunade did not Break Sussanoo. She Mearly Cracked it.

Gaara was able to Casually Block A's Kick and Multiple Susanoo swords. She can get through a normal layer of sand but not anything Susbstantially thick, Which Gaara can easily bring up since Tsuande doesn't have any real speed abilities. The Instant She Tries to get through and real defense. Gaara just blocks and uses Sabaku SoSo - Sabaku Taiso in one smooth motion, if she uses Byakugayo. He Proceeds to send her underground and let pressure eat away at her.



Depending on location Gaara can beat Katsuya with Salinity in the sand. Or just Send Katsuya underground with Tsunade.



All She did was knock it to the ground. She didn't break it or even so much as crack it.



Susanoo is Stronger than the Sand Defense. Tahts Undisputable. Perfect Susanoo could tank C3



She would have to touch Gaara. Which is very unlikely. Gaara also doesn't need to move his body to control the sand, he can't do it without the signs and hand motions, They just help make it more accurate and make use easier.

No i was replying to someone's post that depicted a fanfic battle, and the person said that tsunade hit gaara sending nervous impulses throughout his body, but yet he was still able to hit her, and if he is without control then tsunade's job would have been much easier
and about the salinity thing, It hasnt been shown that katsuyu is weak against salt, and if he tries to send katsuyu underground, tsunade can just go inside katsuyu and katsuyu can summon her somwhere else via reverse summoning, although this hasnt been shown, but tsunade seems to have knowledge on the reverse summoning so i think she can pull it off, seeing as she is a master of summoning and i dont think kimmimaro can withstand being stabbed through the heart and live to tell the tale, nor can he be cut in half and still be talking.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

I don't know.. I'm pretty sure she has the capability to jump that high, or to use a summoning(I can't remember her main summoning.. Katsuyu or something). But she wouldn't just automatically lose because of that.

1. She isn't jumping miles into the air, its really that simple.
2. After jumping, she can not move freely in any direction she chooses.
3. While jumping in the air, she is completely vulnerable to Gaaras attaccks.

So unless proven otherwise, yes, she automatically looses to an airborne Gaara.

 

[Hafiz Dembos]

1. She isn't jumping miles into the air, its really that simple.
2. After jumping, she can not move freely in any direction she chooses.
3. While jumping in the air, she is completely vulnerable to Gaaras attaccks.

So unless proven otherwise, yes, she automatically looses to an airborne Gaara.

Nice counter!

 

[Curse Mark]

1. She isn't jumping miles into the air, its really that simple.
2. After jumping, she can not move freely in any direction she chooses.
3. While jumping in the air, she is completely vulnerable to Gaaras attaccks.

So unless proven otherwise, yes, she automatically looses to an airborne Gaara.

I agree, but I don't agree it'd be automatic. You responded to the jumping part, but not to the Katsuyu. I just think tsunade would have something up her sleeve to pull out before she loses.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Nice counter!

Thank you sir.

I agree, but I don't agree it'd be automatic. You responded to the jumping part, but not to the Katsuyu. I just think tsunade would have something up her sleeve to pull out before she loses.

I said automatic, because she literally has no chance of touching him if he goes airborne. Now obviously, by automatic, i don't mean Tsunade will go down easily without a fight, but this is just a terrible match up for her.

And what about katsuya? She serves no purpose in this fight other then assisting Tsunade defensively. How would she help Tsunade reach Gaara?

EDIT: Katsuya can disperse and be used as stepping stones for Tsunade, but I still don't believe that would be nearly enough to reach Gaara.

 

[TheTailedSage]

The location is not the Desert, Gaara's sand is limited here.

He has an unlimited sorce because of the minerals in the ground so ultimatly sand is over whelming and wat idiot said she smashed through susano'o?

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

He has an unlimited sorce because of the minerals in the ground so ultimatly sand is over whelming and wat idiot said she smashed through susano'o?

Kishi.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Kishi.

Its true kishi loves off gaara but unlimited sand is logical since there ARE minerals in the ground but until anyone can prove a legit way she can win gaara wins mid to almost high depending if he's airborne

 

[Hafiz Dembos]

Its true kishi loves off gaara but unlimited sand is logical since there ARE minerals in the ground but until anyone can prove a legit way she can win gaara wins mid to almost high depending if he's airborne

People forget about his ability to create sand out of rocks, earth and minerals. they only think that he is effective only in the desert.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

No i was replying to someone's post that depicted a fanfic battle, and the person said that tsunade hit gaara sending nervous impulses throughout his body, but yet he was still able to hit her, and if he is without control then tsunade's job would have been much easier
and about the salinity thing, It hasnt been shown that katsuyu is weak against salt, and if he tries to send katsuyu underground, tsunade can just go inside katsuyu and katsuyu can summon her somwhere else via reverse summoning, although this hasnt been shown, but tsunade seems to have knowledge on the reverse summoning so i think she can pull it off, seeing as she is a master of summoning and i dont think kimmimaro can withstand being stabbed through the heart and live to tell the tale, nor can he be cut in half and still be talking.

Oh, i understand then haha

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Katsuya is a slug, Salt Rapes slugs. That will apply.

Reverse Summoning would require them to be somewhere else. If They're both going under, they're screwed.

She can do that because of Healing, I dont quite Consider that Tanking

 

[genii96]

She is stronger than A but not by much. I am just saying that he can use his fully formed sphere to block tsunade since he only used flowing sand to block A and the sphere is by far stronger than the flowing sand.

Gaara wins this match,however,what you are saying abt their strength is ridiculous,raikage snapped some susanoo ribs,he couldnt scratch madara's ribcage,tsunade knocked 2 complete susanoos to the ground in a single punch,snapped a susanoo sword in half and blew aside madara and his susanoo apart in one blow,the shockwave of her kick wiped ou 2 houses. She is by far the raikage's superior in strength.o agr woth the other parts of your posts though.

Where is the Susanoo destroyed?

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As I see he only cracked it:

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And it was stated that even the incomplete Susanoo is a better defence then the Sand Shield:

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And here Tsunade destroyed the Susanoo's ribcage completely:

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Here she was able to K.O. a Complete Susanoo:

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The difference between their strength is significant.

i agrre aith all except one,sasuke claimed his incomplete susanoo was greater at the summit,naruto however claimed gaara'ssand was the best defence at the war arc,i think i will take the most current. Gaara already proved powerful enough to block 5 susanoos at once,all were ems versions and all had legs and all were madara's,he wasnt even looking,he was aso exhausted,madara's meteor destroyed his susanoo,bu gaara was fine and walked out despite being withjin the blast radius. Unless you are telling me you believe an incomplete susanoo could take 5 complete susanoo sword sttikes at once,or a c3,then gaara's sand is far superior to an incomplete version and even the comete version except perfect susanoo which only madara posseses. I agree though that tsunade is easily the raikage's superior in strength and is above him in the kage ranking,she is 3rd IMO

 

[Hafiz Dembos]

Gaara wins this match,however,what you are saying abt their strength is ridiculous,raikage snapped some susanoo ribs,he couldnt scratch madara's ribcage,tsunade knocked 2 complete susanoos to the ground in a single punch,snapped a susanoo sword in half and blew aside madara and his susanoo apart in one blow,the shockwave of her kick wiped ou 2 houses. She is by far the raikage's superior in strength.o agr woth the other parts of your posts though.


i agrre aith all except one,sasuke claimed his incomplete susanoo was greater at the summit,naruto however claimed gaara'ssand was the best defence at the war arc,i think i will take the most current. Gaara already proved powerful enough to block 5 susanoos at once,all were ems versions and all had legs and all were madara's,he wasnt even looking,he was aso exhausted,madara's meteor destroyed his susanoo,bu gaara was fine and walked out despite being withjin the blast radius. Unless you are telling me you believe an incomplete susanoo could take 5 complete susanoo sword sttikes at once,or a c3,then gaara's sand is far superior to an incomplete version and even the comete version except perfect susanoo which only madara posseses. I agree though that tsunade is easily the raikage's superior in strength and is above him in the kage ranking,she is 3rd IMO

I still believe that perfect susano cannot tank a c3 especially as the bomb will destroy the head first which has no real defensive capabilities and even the body as well. Gaara's defence is the best at anytime. By the way I agree with the rest of what you said.

 

[genii96]

I still believe that perfect susano cannot tank a c3 especially as the bomb will destroy the head first which has no real defensive capabilities and even the body as well. Gaara's defence is the best at anytime. By the way I agree with the rest of what you said.

yea,i believe it cannot tank c3 as well,gaara's sand defence levels increase as the amont of sand he has increases,so once he has a good amount of sand,he would most likely surpass ps in defence department like in the suna dessert. So gaara's defence is truly the best i agree.

 

[genii96]

I guess the thread is settled

 

[scrmz]

Tsunade