How can be Jiraiya > 4th Raikage?

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Hi, i read this topic today -

And I can't get it how can Jiraiya beat Raikage.

Jiraiya needs more time than he active SM.
And everybody knows Raikage is one of the fastest ninja and in Raiton no Yoroi, his reflex is on the Minato's level.

Raikage can kill him in one hit - he could cut Hachibi's horn.

Jiraiya has speed 4,5 in stats which is same as Kakashi or Sasori, but I think they can't dodge Raikage's speedblitz (Maybe Kakashi can only thanks to Sharingan)

So I ask you how can Jiraiya dodge Raikage's fastest attack?
 

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raikage will blitz him.it`s that simple
 

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Sage mode maybe? But Jiraiya wouldn't die easily either
 

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Its not.
A > Jiraiya with mid-difficulty.
 

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Only thing I could see happening is him using a needle Jizo, but even that won't stop Raikage.
 

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Jiraiya is very tactical as he showed when he fought Pain. Sasuke countered A's full speed with Enton, and Jiraiya has a great variety of techniques to do the same. Even though I'm not too sure if his reaction speed is good enough, so I guess it's speculation for now.
 

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Jiraiya is very tactical as he showed when he fought Pain. Sasuke countered A's full speed with Enton, and Jiraiya has a great variety of techniques to do the same. Even though I'm not too sure if his reaction speed is good enough, so I guess it's speculation for now.

I agree.

Its not.
A > Jiraiya with mid-difficulty.

Yep, I don't think J-man has anything that can counter raiton.

He will already be in sage mode, Jiraiya doesn't fight strong opponents unless he's in sage mode, this was said in the pain fight.

No, J-man barely fought anyone in the Anime/Manga. We just found out that there was a sage mode form not to long before he fought Pain.
 

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This is a bad matchup. Plus all you stated is that A is faster meaning he can beat jiraiya, but that's not the case becuase by that logic naruto is stronger than edo madara. Well in my opinion jiraiya takes this match.
 

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If Jiraiya is already in SM and can counter raikage's full speed, the toads will just genjutsu A
 

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Jiraiya is a beast, A is a bad matchup for him but Jiraiya would put up a fight. Overall A > Jiraiya
 

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This is a bad matchup. Plus all you stated is that A is faster meaning he can beat jiraiya, but that's not the case becuase by that logic naruto is stronger than edo madara. Well in my opinion jiraiya takes this match.

No, because of Susano'o and Sharingan. But if Madara wouldn't has that great defense, Naruto will beat him. And Jiraiya hasn't so good defense as Madara.. He has no defense against Raikage.
 

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Well, in our country there's a proverb which says that the all-knowing super-dooper smart and strong young man might be blissfully unaware of what an elderly know very well.
 

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again with the faster logic. i agree that A beats jiraiya but its not as simple as just blitzing him from the start
 

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Well, in our country there's a proverb which says that the all-knowing super-dooper smart and strong young man might be blissfully unaware of what an elderly know very well.

dude true shit bro
 

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He could enter sage mode before the fight even starts. That genjutsu that the frogs use is one hit, one kill. It's almost inescapable.
 

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No, because of Susano'o and Sharingan. But if Madara wouldn't has that great defense, Naruto will beat him. And Jiraiya hasn't so good defense as Madara.. He has no defense against Raikage.

Toad stomach
 

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again with the faster logic. i agree that A beats jiraiya but its not as simple as just blitzing him from the start
It is .. A is too fast... Remember this?
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That will happen to Jman... except one prob... Jiraya doesn't have the means to escape A once he's right in front of his face

Only 1 person (naruto makes 2) in the world ever dodged A's full attack... Jiraya doesn't have the speed, nor reflexes to do anything but get slaughtered
 
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