Kishimoto was confused about Tobi's identity

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Okay I know this is old news, chapter 599, but just listen as I explain what I believe really happened in the mind of Masashi Kishimoto before 599. When that chapter came out; hearts were broken, dreams were crushed the stupidly obvious; became a reality. Obito??? Really??? Obito? at 13 years old could defeat his sensei, with only the passion of a girl who friendzoned him and a newly unlocked ability? I had never felt so low in my life for believing something so farfetched as to anything but the obvious. Now this is where I present to you all: The quick theory that Kishimoto was indecisive about Tobi's identity

These were the possible Tobi identities with my input:

:hypertobi: Obito: Too damn obvious, if it is than shoot me for hypertheorizing like the rest of the fans
Sage's son/grandson: Stupidest idea ever, makes no sense, Tobi is not that strong
Izuna: Yes very possible, intention and motive is present
Madara: Lol if I knew like i do now that he was such a troll I would have went with this
Zetsu: I see what you mean but...No
(Now this last theory was held by a few and by me and is where I think Kishimoto was heading)
Kagami Uchiha: Oh yes very possible, could be the father of Tobi who had similar powers to him, would describe how he was so powerful, would describe his knowledge for his age and that he was an Uchiha who knew Madara personally, he collaborated with team Tobirama :nindaime: which consisted of Danzo and Hiruzen Sarutobi which were major characters involving the leaf village (NOTE that TOBIRAMA name has TOBI in it), Kagami's name means mirror and in one picture he is right next to Danzo (my profile picture) which would point to a hidden message that he mirrored Danzo in some way.

I truly believe that either Obito or Kagami were the ones he was deciding to be picked as the identity of Tobi, and if Kishimoto stuck with Kagami it would have left out the mass of plotholes existing because of Obito's age and intentions. But he must have figured this would take alot more pages explaining through flashbacks and HARDWORK AND EFFORT and it just adds another Uchiha to the list while not explaining the Senju clan. So Kishi must have twisted things to fit into the possibility that Madara changed his life and :kakashi: Kakashi killed his girl (such a retarded excuse) So in the end he stuck to Obito to save himself time. lolol. Bottom line I think that He was going to make the identity of Tobi to be Kagami who was a peer of the :hokage: 3rd hokage and danzo. AND KNOWING THAT OBITO SURVIVED THE BOULDER AINT IT BELIEVABLE THAT KAGAMI COULD EASILY SURVIVE WITH MADARA'S HELP TOO? Think about it and comment, Thanks!
 

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i think he has always wanted obito to be tobi even as far back as the zabuza arc.
 

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I agree. I wanted it to be Izuna. A bro that got screwed by his bro, then used his name as an alias for revenge. I thought that'd be awesome, but nope.
 

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Now now now. Hold on there for a second. Let's be all clear on this. Are you sure you are not the one who is confused? Honestly Kishimoto is a master of deception and trolling. His perspective abilities are on par with all of the ocular jutsu. How dare you proclaim such acts of trinity from Lord Kishimoto!
 

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i think he has always wanted obito to be tobi even as far back as the zabuza arc.

Lol nice one. But I guess after seeing the poor excuses why Obito is who he is now makes me want to cry.
 

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its not that he wasnt planning this but its something fanboys cant get over
 

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Lol nice one. But I guess after seeing the poor excuses why Obito is who he is now makes me want to cry.

yeah me too
when sasuke said he wanted to know everything, oro thought that sasuke was too young to know
i was hoping that obito found out what sasuke wanted to know by madara or something and that's why he went evil, cause he found out horrible things like he wanted to be hokage and he found out that hokages are kept with senjus and a uchiha would never be hokage
but it was just rin dying
 

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You are right. This is old news. I just wanted him to remain unnamed. But in the end it wouldn't make any sense but it would be cool if he remained Tobi and people could stay arguing over who he is.
 

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Now now now. Hold on there for a second. Let's be all clear on this. Are you sure you are not the one who is confused? Honestly Kishimoto is a master of deception and trolling. His perspective abilities are on par with all of the ocular jutsu. How dare you proclaim such acts of trinity from Lord Kishimoto!

Lol maybe he did this to scare off the old fans and bring in the new fans that will submit to the allmightylordKishi?? :worshippy:
 

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yeah me too
when sasuke said he wanted to know everything, oro thought that sasuke was too young to know
i was hoping that obito found out what sasuke wanted to know by madara or something and that's why he went evil, cause he found out horrible things like he wanted to be hokage and he found out that hokages are kept with senjus and a uchiha would never be hokage
but it was just rin dying

Exactly and that's why I believe that the writer was going one way with the story but then changed the entire thing and we are left with pockets of mistakes.
 

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I'll stick to my guns, and say the obito reveal would have been AMAZING if there hadn't have been any hints at it. It was obviously obito since the first time his S/T jutsu was shown.
 

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everyone who thought that Tobi is Kagami or Izuna was basing theri theory upon Tobi's talk and deception when he claimed he was Madara.. everybody just figured that he is too old and thus Kagami and Izuna came to the picture ... but the reasonable choice was Obito cuz he has a link to the story while others have none ! they were just mentioned as the Sage's sons and that is it.
Belive kishi has always planned for Tobi to be Obito ... and we still have to wait to see the story behind Rin's death ... Kishi is obvious and up to the point ... it's we the fans who came up with such crazy theories and twisted everything . Kishimoto is a genius ... someone who can come up with such detailed story and so many characters should NOT find it difficult to add Kagami to the mix , but it was NOT the plan to begin with ....
 
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You just wanted to use those smileys, didn't you?
 

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I still think Obito is not tobi.

Yes I reject the existence of Tobi's Obitoness, but don't worry I will make everything better in the Infinite Tsukuyomi and we will have tea together and discuss the identity of the masked man.
 

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everyone who thought that Tobi is Kagami or Izuna was basing theri theory upon Tobi's talk and deception when he claimed he was Madara.. everybody just figured that he is too old and thus Kagami and Izuna came to the picture ... but the reasonable choice was Obito cuz he has a link to the story while others have none ! they were just mentioned as the Sage's sons and that is it.
Belive kishi has always planned for Tobi to be Obito ... and we still have to wait to see the story behind Rin's death ... Kishi is obvious and up to the point ... it's we the fans who came up with such crazy theories and twisted everything . Kishimoto is a genius ... someone who can come up with such detailed story and so many characters should NOT find it difficult to add Kagami to the mix , but it was NOT the plan to begin with ....

You are definitely right about it but think about it? If everything made sense in the story than there would be no theories coming out like this. But it is at the point where everyone is asking questions after each chapter and they aren't being answered. So its very likely that the genius made at least 1 or 2 or more mistakes.
 
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lol tobi is obito and that's that end of talk, there's even pics showing tobi's face from the back view had wrinkles and the other side none, when he went to fetch sasuke when sasuke was fighting team 7
 
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actually i believe he planned it to be obito from the beginning as when we was first introduced to tobi he had deidaras arm which was sent to the dimension by kakashi so it explains how he had that arm
 
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