The End All Debate on the SO6P

[Tebows Youth Group]

I hope you do understand english. Where it states Senju and Uchiha descend from the Sage. And the Uzumaki descend from Senju. In the eyes of obito.. Naruto and Nagato were looked as Senju. O-o.

It has never said Uzumaki descend from Senju, only that they are distant relatives.

 

[Sexy Steel]

It has never said Uzumaki descend from Senju, only that they are distant relatives.

it's says distant blood relatives

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

it's says distant blood relatives

okay? I agree with that. That supports my theory. If the sage was an Uzumaki, then yes, they are distant blood relatives.

 

[Sexy Steel]

okay? I agree with that. That supports my theory. If the sage was an Uzumaki, then yes, they are distant blood relatives.

the sage came before the uzumaki, he was senju and uzumaki combined in one. he can use ninjutsu since he is also senju not just uzumaki alone.

 

[Meowazziel]

the sage came before the uzumaki, he was senju and uzumaki combined in one. he can use ninjutsu since he is also senju not just uzumaki alone.

Imagine this:

The sage is an Uzumaki.
He seals the Juubi in himself.
Now he is a completely new person. You could say he is not Uzumaki anymore. He is something new.
He splits this new being that he is, these new powers, up in 2.
One part is called Senju and one part Uchiha. The sage was both ONCE he became the Juubi his jinchuriki.

 

[KingHashirama]

It has never said Uzumaki descend from Senju, only that they are distant relatives.

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ommgggg what did that say? Oh yea he is from the Senju linage ;oo. what does that mean everyone?? He descends from the senju.

the sage came before the uzumaki, he was senju and uzumaki combined in one. he can use ninjutsu since he is also senju not just uzumaki alone.

Uzumaki fall under the word Senju. its not Uzumaki + Senju +Uchiha = Sage.. but Senju +Uchiha = Sage. ^.^

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

the sage came before the uzumaki, he was senju and uzumaki combined in one. he can use ninjutsu since he is also senju not just uzumaki alone.

Haha Im sorry I just dont agree. Look at his ninja tools. Why even have them? Look at his fan. It can use all elements, but we know the Rinnengan to be able to use all elements. So why even have the fan? All it does is strain chakra. Simple, he couldnt use ninjutsu at that point in time. Like the Gold n Silver brothers. He relied on sealing/ having incredible life force and his special weapons. Including that staff we know nothing about.

 

[Sexy Steel]

Imagine this:

The sage is an Uzumaki.
He seals the Juubi in himself.
Now he is a completely new person. You could say he is not Uzumaki anymore. He is something new.
He splits this new being that he is, these new powers, up in 2.
One part is called Senju and one part Uchiha. The sage was both ONCE he became the Juubi his jinchuriki.

answer post number 658

the jubbi with the rennigan is too much to handle with just sealing techs

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

I agree with you on everything except one thing my friend. Amazing thread btw. I just htink naruto can't turn into kurama's body, and only has a shroud because Kurama has his Yin chakra sealed away.

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

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ommgggg what did that say? Oh yea he is from the Senju linage ;oo. what does that mean everyone?? He descends from the senju.

I hope you dont think you were the first to post that? In fact, you know you werent the first. I have already discussed that page at length with other members earlier in this thread.

 

[TheBrightSide]

OP You could also mention in the thread how Uzumaki are known as the perfect hosts for bijuus, even being able to stay alive after they are pulled from their bodies, which the sage has been shown to do. This has not been shown with any other clan. Just think this will help prove your point even more.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

ANOTHER THING : well if you are right then why do people say in manga senju and uzimaki are distant reletives and you can't be right there is more traits froam the sage so i believe the sage is a mix of more clans because kin/gin are from cloud and they are related to sosp

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

I agree with you on everything except one thing my friend. Amazing thread btw. I just htink naruto can't turn into kurama's body, and only has a shroud because Kurama has his Yin chakra sealed away.

Hmm okay, interesting point and thank you for the comment. But, we have already seen Naruto turn into the fox. Look at his fight with Pain. He became the fox all that was missing was the skin. His blood is what makes Bijuu Mode look the way it does. It is an advantage not a disadvantage.

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

OP You could also mention in the thread how Uzumaki are known as the perfect hosts for bijuus, even being able to stay alive after they are pulled from their bodies, which the sage has been shown to do. This has not been shown with any other clan. Just think this will help prove your point even more.

Right, and this is actually something I meant to include. They are the perfect hosts-----the sage was obviously the perfect host

the parallels go on and on.

 

[Prince Charles]

Also the fact that your theory relies about 3 primary people karin,kushina,and nagato means theres a lack of evidence.

Also the fact that the sage has never been shown with red hair.

The two primary clans were uciha and senju that got split from the sage, if the sage was indeed uzumaki , why would the manga say they were distant relatives? They should be the primary relative this also means the elder,son and younger son both had uzumaki genes within them from there father the sage

 

[Narutofan4203]

it's says distant blood relatives

because the sage split his own body and rinnegan which came from Juubi
this is why so6p used COAT to create his sons too because if he had a spouse that would make Nagato's Parents and MitoHashi incest

 

[Meowazziel]

answer post number 658

the Juubi with the rennigan is too much to handle with just sealing techs

Did you see the amount of sealing weapons the sage had in posession?
A jar, a rope, a pot, a sword, most likely several sealing jutsus, probably those chains that Kushina had as well, that sword and staff that he holds in the picture, are most likely special as well. If he had Sage mode, that would be another power in his arsenal.
Kurama said the Juubi has no feelings or ideals.
The sage didnt had to fight a being full of hatred (like the bijou turned into after a while).


and Tebows Youth group, respond to post 661 please .

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

Also the fact that your theory relies about 3 primary people karin,kushina,and nagato means theres a lack of evidence.

Also the fact that the sage has never been shown with red hair.

The two primary clans were uciha and senju that got split from the sage, if the sage was indeed uzumaki , why would the manga say they were distant relatives? They should be the primary relative this also means the elder,son and younger son both had uzumaki genes within them from there father the sage

Right, however I went with the information I had. And all the information says Uzumaki's can not use regular ninjutsu.

The Sage has red hair is a theory, however I believe I used ample evidence to show why I think he will be shown to have red hair.

I think there is still much to be told about the two sons and their stories.

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

Did you see the amount of sealing weapons the sage had in posession?
A jar, a rope, a pot, a sword, most likely several sealing jutsus, probably those chains that Kushina had as well, that sword and staff that he holds in the picture, are most likely special as well. If he had Sage mode, that would be another power in his arsenal.
Kurama said the Juubi has no feelings or ideals.
The sage didnt had to fight a being full of hatred (like the bijou turned into after a while).


and Tebows Youth group, respond to post 661 please .

Haha thank you I couldnt have said this better myself!

 

[Sexy Steel]

Did you see the amount of sealing weapons the sage had in posession?
A jar, a rope, a pot, a sword, most likely several sealing jutsus, probably those chains that Kushina had as well, that sword and staff that he holds in the picture, are most likely special as well. If he had Sage mode, that would be another power in his arsenal.
Kurama said the Juubi has no feelings or ideals.
The sage didnt had to fight a being full of hatred (like the bijou turned into after a while).


and Tebows Youth group, respond to post 661 please .

so you are basically saying the jubbi submitted to the will of the so6p without putting up a fight ?