The End All Debate on the SO6P

[10023213]

ya as u know naruto proably has the strongest chakra in nv .... N sasuke n uchiha having a almost as powerful chakara... means that strong ninja have strong chakara

in that case why did kishi nor the manga ever mention anything about tobirama,minato,hiruzen,A,edo madara, obito and like 10 others having strong chakra....give me manga proof where it says you need strong chakra to be strong....

matter of fact kakashi barely has any chakra at all and he's still one of the strongest ninja alive

gai doesn't even have chakra so your point is completely invalid..

madara has rennigan currently and senju dna and he is edo he can summon juubi madara>hashi currently unless you are talking about ems madara

yes that is what i'm talking about

hashi>ps or ems madara before madara gets injected with senju steroids

 

[Uzimaki Akira]

Re: Final Thread: So6p was an Uzumaki (Theory)

I believe you'r on to something but your explanation needs tweeking. The Senju being a branch of the Uzumaki actually makes sense, but the part about Uchiha being related to Juubi is ridiculous, the Uchiha originated from the Hyuga clan so they might be part Uzumaki part Hyuga.

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

ya so why u call it reningan ... if the sage had reningan ... he still has different eyes from juubi

Okay, but it is a mix of the two. The Rinnengan is in there. Saying the sage had Rinnengan before this fight is still saying he had eyes like the Juubi, without the sharingan tomae.

 

[oShux]

Re: Final Thread: So6p was an Uzumaki (Theory)

Too many bold assumption about stuff that we know nothing about. Merely guessing and little "new" evidence. Not sure what you are trying to say with this, except that SO6P was uzumaki, and uzumaki is the product of senju + uchiha.

However, if a senju and uchiha had a child, and it was a boy, he would have sharingan with possibility of awakening rinnengan. But this wouldn't make much sense.

And if it were a girl? then what

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

Ok bro As far as i can say is that Sage was from a group of people who formed uzumaki (not releted by blood but acted as a clan)

The sage had the mutation of reningan from start

he beat the Juubi with perfect body and perfect eyes and awesome tools

He sealed it into him with tori seal

he gained some negitive atributes of the juubi and passed on a sharingan to the uchiha

Then naruto now represents Sages body and Sasuke represents his eyes .... when naruto kills sasuke he becomes so6p...

please tell me errors in my theory

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

But mr Theory maker i respct your theory . It may be true . But u cant say that nothing else can happen ... as this manga sometimes make people who overthink as fools

u know like obito is tobi ... f*** yeah

Haha, well thank you. You certainly have been adamant about trying to disprove me. I stand by what I said, but it is nice to hear opposing theories.

 

[10023213]

Ok bro As far as i can say is that Sage was from a group of people who formed uzumaki (not releted by blood but acted as a clan)

1.The sage had the mutation of reningan from start

2.he beat the Juubi with perfect body and perfect eyes and awesome tools

3.He sealed it into him with tori seal

4.he gained some negitive atributes of the juubi and passed on a sharingan to the uchiha

5.Then naruto now represents Sages body and Sasuke represents his eyes .... when naruto kills sasuke he becomes so6p...

6.please tell me errors in my theory

1. where's the manga proof

2.where's the manga proof

3. maybe but i don't remember it saying that in the manga...

4. True

5.hell no

6.it's f*cked up


if it were older son versus the younger son then why not make naruto a senju...

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

in that case why did kishi nor the manga ever mention anything about tobirama,minato,hiruzen,A,edo madara, obito and like 10 others having strong chakra....give me manga proof where it says you need strong chakra to be strong....

matter of fact kakashi barely has any chakra at all and he's still one of the strongest ninja alive

gai doesn't even have chakra so your point is completely invalid..



yes that is what i'm talking about

hashi>ps or ems madara before madara gets injected with senju steroids

Ok kakashi is a thrash ninja .... N madara and obito are uchiha ... I searched for the pic u showed ... the elder inherited the spritual energy ( ie chakra) ... so uchiha have strong chakra ... so have senjus ... And i dont think that kishi has no other work then defining chakra strength

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

Ok bro As far as i can say is that Sage was from a group of people who formed uzumaki (not releted by blood but acted as a clan)

The sage had the mutation of reningan from start

he beat the Juubi with perfect body and perfect eyes and awesome tools

He sealed it into him with tori seal

he gained some negitive atributes of the juubi and passed on a sharingan to the uchiha

Then naruto now represents Sages body and Sasuke represents his eyes .... when naruto kills sasuke he becomes so6p...

please tell me errors in my theory

I like it. Buttt you know what im gonna say right? The mutation.

I just can't see the Sage coincidentally getting a mutation of eyes that the Juubi already has.

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

1. where's the manga proof

2.where's the manga proof

3. maybe but i don't remember it saying that in the manga...

4. True

5.hell no

6.it's f*cked up


if it were older son versus the younger son then why not make naruto a senju...

haha exactly!!

People are forgetting it is Uzumaki vs Uchiha. Not senju. WHy not make Naruto a senju if the senju/uchiha rivalry is so important?

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

1. where's the manga proof

2.where's the manga proof

3. maybe but i don't remember it saying that in the manga...

4. True

5.hell no

6.it's f*cked up


if it were older son versus the younger son then why not make naruto a senju...

so wheres the manga proof where it says that so6- gained reningan from juubi

show that written in manga where it says that uzumaki cant use ninjutsu

ur theory is equaly ****ed up especialy the sage is uzumaki part

 

[10023213]

Ok kakashi is a thrash ninja .... N madara and obito are uchiha ... I searched for the pic u showed ... the elder inherited the spritual energy ( ie chakra) ... so uchiha have strong chakra ... so have senjus ... And i dont think that kishi has no other work then defining chakra strength

you only countered one of my points and stated what i've already stated

powerful chakra, physical strength and long life aren't the same thing

and what about gai and all the other i've mentioned...

 

[Baka Sennin]

This is possible. But the world couldnt use ninjutsu before the Sage could. So what I am saying is because the Uzumaki cant use ninjutsu they must be the oldest clan. They are the only ones to reflect what the world would have looked like before the idea of Ninja came to be.

yeah i suppose that makes sense. the bit about fuinjutsu and the sage's weapons is still the weak link in your argument imo, but still this is the best theory about the sage that i've read, so well done

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Re: There is no more doubt! SO6P was in FACT an UZUMAKI!

not this again .... for god's sake, there was no such thing shinobi before the so6p, everything has a beginning and he was the beginning and the founder of jutsu of all kinds (even sealing jutsu) he didn't learn shit from anyone (he is a god) he tought it to people. this theory is based on nothing, specially the part where it said that they have things in common like NOT USING NINJUTSU :sy:

1- naruto is an uzumaki and he uses ninjutsu.

2- nagato without the rinnegan doesn't exist so .... he always used ninjutsu.

3- karrin like the raikage is a character that is based on something specific.

4- in the little time we saw her kushina used the chains on kurama because its effective and would do the job (she was a shinobi since she was young, so she didn't use chakra chains all that time).

i would pick this theory apart but its not even fun .....

the better way to think of this is maybe the so6p tought the sealing techs to the UZUMAKI CLAN

you see some shinobi clans represent an aspect of the SO6P'S power:

uzumaki (his sealling jutsu)
senju (body and life force)
uchiha (his eyes ..... sort of)

now what do these three clans share in common ?? they all came after the so6p U_U

now let me ask you this, how the hell can an uzumaki fight the juubi with out something that gives him godly power (that he already had it) like the rinnegan and being the creator of jutsu ??

how do you explain that one UZUMAKI shinobi fought a destroyer of worlds with out the god like power and statues he had (rinnegan, god, creator of jutsu, origin of shinobi) and won ??

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

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haha exactly!!

People are forgetting it is Uzumaki vs Uchiha. Not senju. WHy not make Naruto a senju if the senju/uchiha rivalry is so important?

i dont think there is any senju left except tsunade .... and it isnt uzumaki vs uchiha its namikage vs uchiha

 

[10023213]

so wheres the manga proof where it says that so6- gained reningan from juubi

show that written in manga where it says that uzumaki cant use ninjutsu

ur theory is equaly ****ed up especialy the sage is uzumaki part

hmmmmm...you wanna know what the funny part is though....i've given you manga proof in about half or more of my post while you have yet to show me any manga proof

show me in the manga that an uzumaki can use ninjutsu(without rinnegan and being a full uzumaki)....

at least i have a theory...and my post actually make sense and people can actually read what i'm trying to say...

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

you only countered one of my points and stated what i've already stated

powerful chakra, physical strength and long life aren't the same thing

and what about gai and all the other i've mentioned...

ok gai can use ninjutsu but doesnt use it ... its written it naruto wikia ... and so he has chakra coz he has a summon ... and do u expect kishi just wanna define chakra strength

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

i dont think there is any senju left except tsunade .... and it isnt uzumaki vs uchiha its namikage vs uchiha

Well I wouldnt say that. He has Uzumaki blood, it would be unfair to label him as only a namikaze

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

hmmmmm...you wanna know what the funny part is though....i've given you manga proof in about half or more of my post while you have yet to show me any manga proof

show me in the manga that an uzumaki can use ninjutsu(without rinnegan and being a full uzumaki)....

at least i have a theory...and my post actually make sense and people can actually read what i'm trying to say...

show me the manga proof that the so6p didnt have reningan from birth

and not shown in the manga doesnt mean that a person cant do that ... n how many uzumaki are u talking about ?? 2?? n u think whole clan is like those 3

 

[10023213]

ok gai can use ninjutsu but doesnt use it ... its written it naruto wikia ... and so he has chakra coz he has a summon ... and do u expect kishi just wanna define chakra strength

*couch* *cough* gtfo with that wiki sh*t! show me in the manga wher gai uses ninjutsu....every one of his jutsus are based off of taijutsu....and it takes blood to do a summon and even if it did take chakra you still didn't counter my point because gai definitely doesn't have strong chakra...he barely has any at all