The End All Debate on the SO6P

[Ghost of Uchiha]

Look at it carefully. The sharingan Tomae rest on the ripple patterens of the Rinnengan.

Ok 3t sharingan has 1 ripple

obviously 9t sharingan will have 3 ripple

or u want 9 t all in one ripple ... ewww

 

[Prime Rib]

Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

Time to put facts and Proof on the table, go re read the manga when it says the UZUMAKIS clan has always been long distant realitives of the senju clan, And heres a perfect example and the truth, Hashirama and mito married each other, just llike most members did

 

[The Necromancer]

Okay, I see your point. But, I never said he could? I dont know what the Juubi was capable of, but I will say this. His eyes, were passed down from the Juubi, I have explained why I think so. And another interesting thing is with the Senju. What is their trademark ability? The wood release. And what have we come to learn about the Juubi? He is basically nature personified. I find it odd that their ability is so closely related to nature when the Juubi was basically nature itself.

I just don't see how the juubi's eyes could be passed down to the sage's children when kushina's jinchuriki abilities were not. Also as far as we have seen, only Hashirama could do Mokuton, as even his brother and granddaughter could not.

I have believed however that RDS was the seal used, and has been passed down through the uzumaki, but perhaps to add to your thread, you could theorize that Creation of all things was a Jinchuriki ability? As the juubi was said to have created the world and the SO6P used this ability to create the tailed beasts? Just a thought.

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

who says it's weak either, i could just be normal
and it's because he's good at fighting of course....you don't need strong chakra just to fight well

As a matter of fact u need strong chakara to be good at fighting .... remember that uchiha n senjus were the best clans ... why??

exceptional chakara

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

who says it's weak either, i could just be normal
and it's because he's good at fighting of course....you don't need strong chakra just to fight well




obviously didn't read the thread but tell me how he's gunna use something that big on someone that's not even half the size of the kyuubi...

imagine so6p how does u use a sealing tech on a thing so big without defeating it first with ninjutsu

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

You made some good points, but you're essentially saying the sage an uzamaki essentially powerless, goes up against the jubi with a stick and just seals it as simple as that

Not at all. I think he was incredibly powerful, I make this point in the thread. We don't know exactly what he was capable of, but we do know he had a very powerful seal.

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

Ok 3t sharingan has 1 ripple

obviously 9t sharingan will have 3 ripple

or u want 9 t all in one ripple ... ewww

No, I think youre misunderstanding what I was saying. The sharingan has no ripples. The tomae of regular sharingan users dont have ripples like the rinnengan. Those ripples on the Juubi are the Rinnengan.

 

[Baka Sennin]

Not at all. And ghost uchiha i am answering you here as well.

The Uzumaki have incredible life force

Special Chakra

Power sealing techniques

Sure, Lee can't use ninjutsu but he possesses none of these other things.

Ghost again, these are bad arguments. I am open for debate, but please try to omit those statements. You know they dont have merit.

hmm, what i meant was if you think they're incapable of using ninjutsu like rock lee, or if perhaps it's a clan tradition started by the sage for them to focus on fuinjutsu, much like say the nara clan focus on shadow binding techniques.

personally i think the uzumaki are basically fuinjutsu masters and they never bothered to master other types of ninjutsu.

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

Not at all. I think he was incredibly powerful, I make this point in the thread. We don't know exactly what he was capable of, but we do know he had a very powerful seal.

isnt it the tori seal ... i have people calling naruto the next so6p coz he uses the same seal as him

 

[10023213]

As a matter of fact u need strong chakara to be good at fighting .... remember that uchiha n senjus were the best clans ... why??

exceptional chakara

oh really

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if i'm not mistaken hashirama>madara, senju>natural uchicha and it did not say the younger son had powerful chakra....it said nothing about powerful chakra

imagine so6p how does u use a sealing tech on a thing so big without defeating it first with ninjutsu

it's probably impossible to defeat it with ninjutsu and that's why he sealed it right away

just like how madara was too strong and the kages were moorly trying to seal him and not defeat him...if something is too strong then your only option is to seal it and that's why sealing tecs>edos

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

No, I think youre misunderstanding what I was saying. The sharingan has no ripples. The tomae of regular sharingan users dont have ripples like the rinnengan. Those ripples on the Juubi are the Rinnengan.

i think when u see a sharingan in manga the tomoe are made around a circle (ie ripple)

the ripples u see are just for the sharingan

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

I just don't see how the juubi's eyes could be passed down to the sage's children when kushina's jinchuriki abilities were not. Also as far as we have seen, only Hashirama could do Mokuton, as even his brother and granddaughter could not.

I have believed however that RDS was the seal used, and has been passed down through the uzumaki, but perhaps to add to your thread, you could theorize that Creation of all things was a Jinchuriki ability? As the juubi was said to have created the world and the SO6P used this ability to create the tailed beasts? Just a thought.

Well the Mokuton seems to be exclusive to the Senju, even if it was just one person.

I really like your second point. It is something I really didnt touch on. The creation of all things seems like it is a juubi tech rather than a Sage tech, good find.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

oh really

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if i'm not mistaken hashirama>madara, senju>natural uchicha and it did not say the younger son had powerful chakra....it said nothing about powerful chakra

madara has juubi yeah madara>hashi coming from a hashi fanboy

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

it's probably impossible to defeat it with ninjutsu and that's why he sealed it right away

just like how madara was too strong and the kages were moorly trying to seal him and not defeat him...if something is too strong then your only option is to seal it and that's why sealing tecs>edos

ya but sealing a undefeated juubi is almost impossible ... didnt naruto defeat 3rd raikage before sealing him

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

hmm, what i meant was if you think they're incapable of using ninjutsu like rock lee, or if perhaps it's a clan tradition started by the sage for them to focus on fuinjutsu, much like say the nara clan focus on shadow binding techniques.

personally i think the uzumaki are basically fuinjutsu masters and they never bothered to master other types of ninjutsu.

This is possible. But the world couldnt use ninjutsu before the Sage could. So what I am saying is because the Uzumaki cant use ninjutsu they must be the oldest clan. They are the only ones to reflect what the world would have looked like before the idea of Ninja came to be.

 

[10023213]

madara has juubi yeah madara>hashi coming from a hashi fanboy

*looks at my avatar*
*looks at sig*
*looks at favorite characters list*
*looks at past threads*
*looks at his f*cking profile*

dafaq....do i look like a hashi fanboy :|

and no hashi>madara not injected with hashi senju steroids...

 

[Narutofan4203]

Final Thread: So6p was an Uzumaki (Theory)

Now, this will be my final theory on So6p being Uzumaki, Let's begin.
1.Uzumaki's are Perfect Jinchurikis

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Naruto and Mito were perfect Jinchuriki's
Why? I believe the Juubi split some of His chakra into the uzumaki clan, but I'll get to that in a second.
2.Rinnegan
The Sage's rinnegan formed when he sealed juubi inside of him, Juubi's Dna + Uzumaki: Rinnegan
The Sage used creation of all things to Split two sons, one that had eyes that Originated from The Juubi, and his Body that originated from being Uzumaki lineage
This is how the Senju is Distantly related to Uzumaki, uzumaki is NOT a branch... technically, senju's can be called the branch.
3.The Uchiha Clan and Juubi

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The uchiha Clan is related to the Juubi, as their method of getting Chakra is so dark.
Uzumaki + Juubi: Rinnegan
Senju: Distant Relatives of Uzumaki
Juubi: Distant relative of Uchiha
Senju + Uchiha: Rinnegan
4.Uzumaki's Elimination
Uzumaki's were peaceful and feared, but they didn't harm anything. Why were they annihilated?

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They were afraid of the Reincarnation of this..
Senju's: Formed From Uzumaki
Uchiha: Formed From Uchiha
Now if an Uchiha Male and a Senju Female had a son.. the reincarnate of So6p? This is the main reason why I believe the Whirlpool Village was destroyed...
5.Uzumaki's Known for their Seals
Finally, Uzumaki's were known for sealing.
The So6p did not faze juubi, nor could he..
He simply sealed it into his body..
I believe the Juubi split some of his powerful yang chakra into the Uzumaki's, this is why they are able to become perfect jinchuriki's easy, and powerful at sealing.
Well, there you have it. I'll take any questions.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

Yes, after he beat the Juubi, he could use CT. Then he sealed the Juubi's body.

another thing so6ps had more decendents stated by kabuto so they could be from jugos clan idk

 

[Piratefish]

Right, and this is the only argument I have seen that holds any merit against what I said. However, it is shakey at best. I showed with my Gold n Silver argument that their are obvious ties to the Sage we are not aware of. But think of it like this, why would he chose Nagato to put his eyes in? There are senju in the world why use an Uzumaki? Why use the, as you say, "branch of the Senju" instead of the real thing? It is because it is the Uzumaki's life force, their bodies that most closely resemble the sage.

Or that he personally knew and was known to (at least by sight) all the Senju in the world except young children, and loathed them all. They'd be less than willing to cooperate with HIM, as well. He's their version of the BOOGEYMAN, for god's sake!* He was inhumanly powerful, malevolent, unpredictable and STOLE HIS BROTHER'S EYES FOR POWER.

*I'm not religious, but the expression fit.

 

[10023213]

ya but sealing a undefeated juubi is almost impossible ... didnt naruto defeat 3rd raikage before sealing him

it's easier than defeating a juubi...naruto didn't seal the 3rd anyway and that was only because the 3rd was too fast too be sealed....the juubi is probably slow enough to be sealed lol