Theory: Tsukuyomi

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I do not usually make threads but here is my try at it.
I have a Theory about the Mangekyou Sharingan Technique Tsukuyomi. I have had this theory for a while, however I have not made the thread. I hope the thread has no already come to be, if it has sorry to have wasted your time. Now before I explain exactly what my Theory is I need to talk about two important characters first. Sasuke and Itachi.
Starting with Itachi I want to first make it clear which eye possesses which ability incase not everyone reading has knowledge on this. Itachi activates his Amaterasu ability through his 'Right Eye' shown here:
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This can be shown through Itachi closing his 'Left Eye' possessing the Tsukuyomi. His 'Left Eye' using the Tsukuyomi can be see clearly observed here[ ]. Also when Sasuke freed himself from the Tsukuyomi Itachi place his palm on his 'Left Eye[ ].' In Itachi's case Tsukuyomi is used through the 'Left Eye' and Amaterasu through his 'Right Eye.'
As for Sasuke we can observe that Sasuke uses his Amaterasu contrary to Itachi's use of his. Sasuke utilizes the ability of Amaterasu through his 'Left Eye.'
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Now through Sasuke 'Right Eye' is has been shown he manipulate the flames of Amaterasu[ ]. Sasuke has also shown another ability with his 'Right Eye' that does not get much credit as a Jutsu. He utilizes 'Genjutsu:Sharingan[ ].' Sasuke closes his Amaterasu eye to perform this Technique.
Now for the final Technique Susanoo. I specifically want to talk about the Requirements for this Jutsu.
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Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi are requirements to having Susanoo.
I see that a grand number of people wonder how can Sasuke have the Susanoo if he does not possess the Tsukuyomi or how can Madara have a Susanoo or perform the Ultimate Tsukuyomi on the world if he does not have the Tsukuyomi.
A Clear answer to this would be that they both do possess the Tsukuyomi. They have both shown to possess this[ ][ ]. The defaults that the Mangekyou Sharingan gave to these 3 were Amaterasu and Genjutsu Sharingan. These two techniques if trained with would advance into what we know as Blaze Release and Tsukuyomi. Basically my theory is that Genjutsu:Sharingan is the premature stage of Tsukuyomi. Sasuke advanced in specifically Amaterasu which became Blaze Release. Itachi advanced specifically in Genjutsu:Sharingan which became Tsukuyomi. Sasuke Possesses Blaze Release and Genjutsu:Sharingan and Itachi possess Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu.
 

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I believe they both have Tskuyomi. It's just Sasuke's is weaker than Itachi, cause he can't control space/time like him. They both have Amaterasu, but Itachi can't manipulate it like Sasuke and have Blaze release
 

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Yup, I agree.
 

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When did anyone say Sasuke doesn't have tsukuyomi? Sasuke does have it, his is just weaker then Itachi's he even used it against Hachibi. And another thing Sasuke does not use Amaterasu with one eye and manipulate it with another, Sasuke does both of those things with only one eye, his Amaterasu just surpasses Itachi's, just like how Itachi's tsukuyomi surpasses Sasukes. And just cause madara hasn't uses tsukiyomi doesn't mean he doesn't have it. Kakashi hasn't used his 1000 jutsu but does that mean he doesn't have it? No
 

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This is basically the same as my opinion. Itachi can use tsukuyomi much better than sasuke. Sasuke has tsukuyomi but it is very strong but no match for someone with alot of skill with releasing genjutsu. Itachi has mastered his to a level that he can trap anyone and there is no escape once caught. Sasuke has done the same with amateratsu and can control the falmes to an incredible degree while itachi can only use the black flames in the traditional sense
 

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I already know all this.

There is one part i dont agree with. In sasuke's case his amaterasu comes from his left eye. However its this same left eye that he uses to control amaterasu and it makes sense that way. The same eye that he casts amaterasu with, should be the same eye that he can control it with and NOT the right eye.

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His left eye wields the supreme ninjutsu; amaterasu and its variation (Enton).

His right eye holds the supreme genjutsu, Tsukuyomi (though he hasnt mastered it yet).

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the official viz translation differs
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Just remembered i came across it, however i wasnt sure so went along with one i thought was original.
+ rep though its nice when i get 'owned' though its the damn translation's fault rather than my own :p
 

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sasuke also has it no doubt
 

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sasuke gonna surpass anything Itachi did
 

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Just remembered i came across it, however i wasnt sure so went along with one i thought was original.
+ rep though its nice when i get 'owned' though its the damn translation's fault rather than my own :p

Doesn't matter. Blaze still got owned ;).
 
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