The End All Debate on the SO6P

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Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

Ok if it was the first age then u cant say that the sage was a uzmaki coz he had no ancestors . as far as reletives are concerned then he wont be releted to anyone

-facepalm- Many clans were built, he was just one of the first members..
 

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Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

Sorry bro i dont accept it . i can accept that the sharingan was derived from juubi but the reningan were devine eyes . They cant be created from a monster

Then where did it come from? Again, kakashi's mutation theory was proved wrong by Madara and Obito LOOONG ago
Kakashi thought Nagato's was a mutation, Madara gave the eyes to him
 

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Re: stop the "uzumaki" thing...

Kishi probably never even intended Uzumaki's to be a clan... he is trapped in a corner now and is trying to make the Uzumaki clan as relevant as he can to the story. So he is trying to make them related as possible to the Senju's so they can be closer to the Sage of the Six Paths because he has got something big planned for Naruto

I beg to differ. I think that the Uzumaki plays a vital and well planned role in the story. They was specialized in sealing and wiped out because of that. They had an extremely high lifeforce. You do not create a fodder clan with that strong characteristics.
 

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Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

-facepalm- Many clans were built, he was just one of the first members..
I agree. He maybe the first member of uzumakis ... anyways it doesnt matter as no one in the first age would be releted by blood . they just came togeter as a clan
 

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Then where did it come from? Again, kakashi's mutation theory was proved wrong by Madara and Obito LOOONG ago
Kakashi thought Nagato's was a mutation, Madara gave the eyes to him

I am saying that the so6p's eyes were a mutation . And as his genes were divided by the creation of all things . The person cant have reningan unless he possess both the parts
 

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For anyone still reading, I added an Addendum to the original thread. I think it brings up a point many people havent thought about.
 

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Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

I am saying that the so6p's eyes were a mutation . And as his genes were divided by the creation of all things . The person cant have reningan unless he possess both the parts

Uzumaki
Uzumaki seals Juubi into their body, rinnegan Forms
Uzumaki splits their two forms apart
Eyes that originated from Juubi to Uchiha ancesotr
Body from Uzumaki To Senju Ancestor
This ^
Uzumaki + Juubi: Rinnegan
Senju distant relatives To Uzumaki
Juubi Distant relative to Uchiha
Senju + Uchiha: Rinnegan
it's logic
 

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Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

First off, title, now some reasons why I believe this..
1. Uzumaki's Possess Strong Bodily forces
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taking more pain then average human..
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still could protect naruto after going through childbirth AND an extraction...
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lived for at least 90+ years...
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took Chidori Spear head on, which chidori normally is an insta kill on average shinobis..
2.Uzumaki's Were Known for Sealing
Now, how do you expect some HUMAN to seal the FULL Juubi... And for the people saying he had rinnegan before Juubi, no. Juubi + Uzumaki: Rinnegan but I will get to that in a second...
3.Uzumaki+Juubi: Rinnegan
An uzumaki with the Juubi's DNA can form rinnegan..
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How does this work?
The So6p Split his BODY and his Eyes right.. he didn't have a spouse, he used Creation of All Things..
His eye powers originated from Juubi, Uchiha's are distant relatives to the Juubi as Senju to Uzumaki!
Where am I Getting at?
Senju + Uchiha: Rinnegan
Senju's are distantly related to Uzumaki as Uchiha for Juubi..
Comments, Questions? I'll take em. Just needed to say this..

you say juubbi + uzumaki = rennigan , where as madara has stated that you need senju ans uchiha powers to unlock the rennigan so your statement if false.
 

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Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

Uzumaki
Uzumaki seals Juubi into their body, rinnegan Forms
Uzumaki splits their two forms apart
Eyes that originated from Juubi to Uchiha ancesotr
Body from Uzumaki To Senju Ancestor
This ^
Uzumaki + Juubi: Rinnegan
Senju distant relatives To Uzumaki
Juubi Distant relatives to Uchiha
Senju + Uchiha: Rinnegan
it's logic

lmfao .. if this were true then naruto would have reningan coz he is uzumaki and has a part of juubi sealed in him . Instant activation of reningan at the moment of sealing
 

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Re: stop the "uzumaki" thing...

Kishi probably never even intended Uzumaki's to be a clan... he is trapped in a corner now and is trying to make the Uzumaki clan as relevant as he can to the story. So he is trying to make them related as possible to the Senju's so they can be closer to the Sage of the Six Paths because he has got something big planned for Naruto

I swear to everything holy that if kishi gives naruto the rinnegan he ruins the whole plot
 

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Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

Sage is not Uzumaki, he's like uzumaki and senju in 1 body, he's the originator of uzumakis, but he isn't one himself.
 

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Re: stop the "uzumaki" thing...

It doesn't matter to you what he was! All you want, is to believe the Sage was born with a Rinnegan, which is impossible. And now you know your belief is in danger because the Juubi has that eye and it is now obvious he was the progenitor of that eye!

The sage was an Uzumaki who sealed the Juubi within himself, got the Rinnegan, created ninjutsu, had two children who were born with the Sage's powers which were the Juubi's powers, due to him being its jinchuuriki at the time. And thus Senju and Uchiha descended from those children.

Being part of a lineage doesn't mean you are a descendant of that lineage, it could be the other way around as well. Learn your frikking English!

It was mentioned long ago that Uzumaki and Senju are distant blood relatives, and then the Uzumaki were mysteriously wiped out, yes the Uzumaki who specialised in sealing jutsus and were perfect for becoming jinchuurikis.

This guy >_>
 

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Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

Sage is not Uzumaki, he's like uzumaki and senju in 1 body, he's the originator of uzumakis, but he isn't one himself.

possibly
But he looks middle-aged so he could be members in his clan, plus he sealed such as the juubi..
 

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Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

another thing I found in a thread

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this right here proves that the chicken came before the egg
 

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Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

another thing I found in a thread

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this right here proves that the chicken came before the egg

hehe ... This proves the theory wrong
infact this shatters it
 

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he clearly says it right there
 

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Re: SO6p WAS An uzumaki..

another thing I found in a thread

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this right here proves that the chicken came before the egg
I just explained it
uzumaki distant relatives of senju
juubi distant relative of Uchiha
Uzumaki + Juubi: Rinnegan
Senju + Uchiha: Rinnegan
 
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