Edo Tensai CANT be used 1V1 (100% Proof)

[Simple Math]

we're talking about this Kabuto who can summon them whenver he wants..

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not Kabuto before he had Oro's dna..

 

[~Sovereign~]

we're talking about this Kabuto who can summon them whenver he wants..

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not Kabuto before he had Oro's dna..

that was because of prep time!!!!

about had PLENTY of time in the manga to do the ritual

and in a 1v1 KABUTO HAS NO ONE TO SACRIFICE, its only him and his opponent on the field

 

[nNoma]

I don't see how there is no preparation for edo tensei? I just explained it to you, Orochimaru and Kabuto will always have edo tensei at there disposal because they will never fight without planning ahead of time.

This in itself disproves your theory, and to say the way in which either of them fights doesn't matter is just wrong, because it's been shown through out the manga, that is in fact what they do.

Orochimaru has never gone into a battle without a plan or a reason behind doing so. He didn't fight Hiruzen without planning ahead of time. He didn't fight Yamato, Naruto, Sai, and Sakura at the bridge for no reason, he had a plan behind that as well. Kabuto is Orochimaru's apprentice and is almost like him in every way.

There will never be a circumstance in which edo tensei could not be used by either of them, because they WILL not fight without planning first.

 

[Saro1020]

Look, when you want to place a 1v1 against Kabuto when he was at prime, then he already had all that prep work done, all the sacrifices completed, and only had the Edo's in storage until needed. Kabuto does not have to sacrifice someone every time he summons an Edo, just the first time. If you have such a negative view of a character that actually goes out of his way to prep for battle, then limit the ability when you make your threads. As far as it's been shown in the manga Edo Tensi can be used at a moments notice, given the prep time is completed.

Also your original assume that animal summons would be okay in this situation, isn't there quite a bit of prep time that goes into setting up the contracts and befriending the summons? I mean if your going to discount edo tensi because of it's prep time, shouldn't you rule out summons all together because of the prep time they require?

Your logic is flawed in your fundamental argument and your supporting example

 

[Simple Math]

that was because of prep time!!!!

about had PLENTY of time in the manga to do the ritual

and in a 1v1 KABUTO HAS NO ONE TO SACRIFICE, its only him and his opponent on the field

if they're preparede in the manga, then they're preparede in the 1v1 fight!!! no need to find them again.. even if he met a random guy, he could summon them because he got their dna..

there's no need for prep time!!! so whenver you say "dsm kabuto" or "kabuto with oro's dna" .. then no prep time needed!!

 

[~Sovereign~]

I don't see how there is no preparation for edo tensei? I just explained it to you, Orochimaru and Kabuto will always have edo tensei at there disposal because they will never fight without planning ahead of time.

This in itself disproves your theory, and to say the way in which either of them fights doesn't matter is just wrong, because it's been shown through out the manga, that is in fact what they do.

Orochimaru has never gone into a battle without a plan or a reason behind doing so. He didn't fight Hiruzen without planning ahead of time. He didn't fight Yamato, Naruto, Sai, and Sakura at the bridge for no reason, he had a plan behind that as well. Kabuto is Orochimaru's apprentice and is almost like him in every way.

There will never be a circumstance in which edo tensei could not be used by either of them, because they WILL not fight without planning first.

what your explain has nothing to do with a 1v1

kabuto doesnt have prep time like he did in the manga

look at what i wrote on post #182 about konan

Look, when you want to place a 1v1 against Kabuto when he was at prime, then he already had all that prep work done, all the sacrifices completed, and only had the Edo's in storage until needed. Kabuto does not have to sacrifice someone every time he summons an Edo, just the first time. If you have such a negative view of a character that actually goes out of his way to prep for battle, then limit the ability when you make your threads. As far as it's been shown in the manga Edo Tensi can be used at a moments notice, given the prep time is completed.

Also your original assume that animal summons would be okay in this situation, isn't there quite a bit of prep time that goes into setting up the contracts and befriending the summons? I mean if your going to discount edo tensi because of it's prep time, shouldn't you rule out summons all together because of the prep time they require?

Your logic is flawed in your fundamental argument and your supporting example

:sy: i've counted this already

im not discounting edo tensai because of prep time, IM DISCOUNTING IT BECAUSE KABUTO DOESNT HAVE THE REQUIREMENT TO USE IT IN A 1V1

THERE IS NO ONE TO SACRIFICE LOOK AT POST #182 (i think lol) the one with the link

 

[~Sovereign~]

if they're preparede in the manga, then they're preparede in the 1v1 fight!!! no need to find them again.. even if he met a random guy, he could summon them because he got their dna..

there's no need for prep time!!! so whenver you say "dsm kabuto" or "kabuto with oro's dna" .. then no prep time needed!!

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THERE IS NO RANDOM GUY....KABUTO AND HIS OPPONENT ARE THE ONLY TWO ON THE FIELD!

i never took kabuto's DNA gathering away from him, THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE IS NO ONE TO USE THE DNA ON

 

[nNoma]

Maybe if I better understood your idea of a 1v1 your point would make sense, but as it is now, I don't see any reason why Kabuto or Orochimaru would not have Edo Tensei ready in a fight.

 

[Bijuu mode naruto]

well u clearly didnt watch the orchimaru vs 3rd hokage fight

 

[~Sovereign~]

well u clearly didnt watch the orchimaru vs 3rd hokage fight

:sy:

Maybe if I better understood your idea of a 1v1 your point would make sense, but as it is now, I don't see any reason why Kabuto or Orochimaru would not have Edo Tensei ready in a fight.

just a 1v1 fight....just stop trying to give kabuto the prep time he had in the manga

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^^^^^ this is prep time

konan cant use this in a 1v1, BUT SHE DID IT IN THE MANGA BECAUSE OF PREP TIME

do you understand this ^^?

 

[nNoma]

I understand that yes, she used her knowledge of what she saw of Tobi's sharingan and planned a counter to it. That's understandable and I get that it took time to prepare.

But it's also a fact that shinobi set traps, plan strategies and wait patiently for the opportune moment to strike. This is what a shinobi is, and it's one of there strongest points as a fighter.

So now having said that, I will say this, Orochimaru and Kabuto will never willingly 1v1 someone without having a plan ahead of time. This should not be difficult to understand, not every shinobi fights the way Naruto does. They won't just rush in and think of a plan as they go, some shinobi will lie in wait for the perfect moment to strike.

Coming up with strategies and planning ahead of time is what a smart shinobi will always do, thus Kabuto and Orochimaru will always have Edo Tensei...I don't really know how else to explain it.

Your disproving fact from the manga about the way certain characters have been known to fight in order to prove that edo tensei is useless in a fight. When in actual fact, I've already given proof that it's never the case with either of these shinobi because that's not how they're known to fight.

 

[naruman]

so basically you are saying minato can't use his FTG in a 1 vs 1 cause it will need prep time for him to prepare those kunai and spread them at different places...? that means he can't win any fight , i wonder what minato fan boys will have to say..

 

[orochimaru]

this isnt the manga

this is a simple 1v1 kabuto doesnt get prep time

Obviously you din't watch the latest filler episode... Kabuto used Edo Tensei on the spot in the middle of a fight...he does not need prep time...as for Sacrifices im sure Kabuto can keep some on the side for any situation that might come up.

 

[BloodSeed]

this is what im talking about a couple of month but no one listens

 

[~Sovereign~]

I understand that yes, she used her knowledge of what she saw of Tobi's sharingan and planned a counter to it. That's understandable and I get that it took time to prepare.

But it's also a fact that shinobi set traps, plan strategies and wait patiently for the opportune moment to strike. This is what a shinobi is, and it's one of there strongest points as a fighter.

So now having said that, I will say this, Orochimaru and Kabuto will never willingly 1v1 someone without having a plan ahead of time. This should not be difficult to understand, not every shinobi fights the way Naruto does. They won't just rush in and think of a plan as they go, some shinobi will lie in wait for the perfect moment to strike.

Coming up with strategies and planning ahead of time is what a smart shinobi will always do, thus Kabuto and Orochimaru will always have Edo Tensei...I don't really know how else to explain it.

Your disproving fact from the manga about the way certain characters have been known to fight in order to prove that edo tensei is useless in a fight. When in actual fact, I've already given proof that it's never the case with either of these shinobi because that's not how they're known to fight.

oro/kabuto fihgting style fights has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THREAD

im not asking for kabuto to fight when he feels comfort....im TELLING you kabuto will fight without prep time, this thread can kinda like a versus thread but its a statement

it dont matter how slick or planned out kabuto's plan is....kabuto will never be able to find a sacrifice..kabuto would have to use dragon sage mode for the fight

the only way for kabuto to use edo tensai is if he has a partner or if i allow prep time...kabuto having the DNA meaning NOTHING without a body to use for it

now you're confusing me and now i really think our just in denial now.....you understand konan's situation..BUT NOT KABUTO's????? its the same situation!....kabuto can use edo tensai ANYTIME....BUT only in the manga because IN THE MANGA....kabuto has already did his ritual (JUST LIKE KONAN ALREADY SET UP HER BOMBS).......in a 1v1 kabuto doesnt have the same advantage (JUST LIKE KONAN), he has to actually has to do the ritual over because there is no preparations in a 1v1 fight but doing the ritual over is impoosible because there arent any sacrifices for him to use

if you dont understand this last paragraph, then i honestly think your just on bs, i dont know how to make it any more clearer than this last paragraph

so basically you are saying minato can't use his FTG in a 1 vs 1 cause it will need prep time for him to prepare those kunai and spread them at different places...? that means he can't win any fight , i wonder what minato fan boys will have to say..

:sy: read the thread, i already countered this

minato can use ftg without the kunai anyway

minato makes ftg marking with his hands

"i wonder what minato fanboys will have to say" lol if only you knew

Obviously you din't watch the latest filler episode... Kabuto used Edo Tensei on the spot in the middle of a fight...he does not need prep time...as for Sacrifices im sure Kabuto can keep some on the side for any situation that might come up.

anime isnt canon

kabuto doesnt walk around with LIVING HUMAN sacrifices in his pocket

this is what im talking about a couple of month but no one listens

i can tell

im trying hard not to be disrespectful to people because last time a got an infraction for arguing lol

 

[Prince Charles]

This is a failed thread

Kabuto already has the dna and edo stored up

All he has to do is clap his hand andd it pops up

 

[JetShark]

Then kabuto would not have any of his powers because he didn't have prep time to learn his jutsus from somebody

Its like you're sayin naruto wouldn't have rasengan because he didn't have prep time to train with jiraya

 

[ItachisCrow]

can you read?

Can you? The name is Edo Tensei and not Tensai. = ))))))))

 

[soulreaper11]

you making up rules LMAO...a fight is when two or more ninja clash and battle with what they are capable of using, in order to winning

are you stupid? naruto doesnt need a sacrifice to use kyuubi



"hardly".....it is enough proof

edo tensai requires a sacrifice

all these other tools/weapons doesnt need a sacrifice

if u know this then why are u aruguing that kabuto cant use edo in a match cause u r starting to make no sense. If u are comparing two people then u just stated they "a fight is when two or more ninja clash and battle with what they are capable of using, in order to winning". so what is your point :|. r u just trolling

 

[UchihaIzuna]

do you read them manga?? did you not see tobi and kabuto go through the ritual??

kabuto had prep time in the manga

you are referring to when kabuto showed tobi the ritual which was AFTER when he pulled the 6 coffins out the threaten tobi.. he doesnt need prep time as the manga proves, it is you who needs to go re-read the manga