realobito1
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I wish tobirama senju fans would stop overrating the hokage. I have heard people calim he is top five material and the man has only appeared in combat for a small amount of time and used no impressive jutsu. This is not like other characters that are overrated, this is a whole new annoying. I say this because other characters that we don't know very well or only seen in unfavorable battle conditions have amazing hype. For example when we saw hashirama in combat he did not do much more than his brother however we have seen the all powerful madara claim that hashi's strength surpassed his own and that he was the most powerful ninja of his time. The third hokage mastered all the leaf's jutsu and was called the strongest kage at the time of his death. Tobirama's hype does not compare. The thing people say make tobirama top 5: most poweful water style user, space/time nin and edo tensei
1. First the most powerful water style we have seen in the series came from kisame. If we assume that the second hokage had jutsu this powerful he is very immpressive but not top five. Kisame did not only have powerful water but also his sword which made him the most deadly water style ninja. Assuming he was as good as kisame would not even be right
2. Next is his space/time ninjutsu which we no nothing about. People assume seeing obito and minato in action that his space/time ninjustu must be as awesome as theirs. However this cannot be true. Tobi is a master of Uchiha ninjutsu and knows strong fire release as well. On top of all that he is very skilled in wood release and yet we did not know this until he was pushed into the most taxing battle of his life. Minato also has some elemental jutsu(jiriaya said minato wanted to combine his element with rasengan) and him being kage probably has powerful jutsu at that. He could summon toads too and still he was known for his FTG. He would rarely ever find himself into a battle he could not win without FTG. So my question is if the second hokage had space/time jutsu this strong then why is he famous for water release. Space time ninjustu as powerful as tobi or minato is so much more effecient and more subtle than large scale elemental ninjutsu. That is why tobi and minato rarely use anything else. I find it hard to believe that tobirama had jutsu this strong and stuck to using water release
3. Edo tensei is a useless topic to even bring up when talking about him. first off he is less skilled at it than Oro who was using an imperfect version. Second he himself forbade this jutsu meaning he does not use it. WHich also means in a battle even if he was desperate enough to want to use it I doubt he is walking around with dead bodies and samples of DNA he can use to perform it. Not to mention the little question of who he would summon anyway considering he was not a grave robber like kabuto(most likely).
Saying all this tobirama is not top 5 material. Not because he is not strong enough but simply because he has not shown us that he is strong enough. If we make him part of the top 5 then the white fang should be in the top ten and sasuke sarutobi the top 15. I am not saying was not silled just not as skilled as some assume.
1. First the most powerful water style we have seen in the series came from kisame. If we assume that the second hokage had jutsu this powerful he is very immpressive but not top five. Kisame did not only have powerful water but also his sword which made him the most deadly water style ninja. Assuming he was as good as kisame would not even be right
2. Next is his space/time ninjutsu which we no nothing about. People assume seeing obito and minato in action that his space/time ninjustu must be as awesome as theirs. However this cannot be true. Tobi is a master of Uchiha ninjutsu and knows strong fire release as well. On top of all that he is very skilled in wood release and yet we did not know this until he was pushed into the most taxing battle of his life. Minato also has some elemental jutsu(jiriaya said minato wanted to combine his element with rasengan) and him being kage probably has powerful jutsu at that. He could summon toads too and still he was known for his FTG. He would rarely ever find himself into a battle he could not win without FTG. So my question is if the second hokage had space/time jutsu this strong then why is he famous for water release. Space time ninjustu as powerful as tobi or minato is so much more effecient and more subtle than large scale elemental ninjutsu. That is why tobi and minato rarely use anything else. I find it hard to believe that tobirama had jutsu this strong and stuck to using water release
3. Edo tensei is a useless topic to even bring up when talking about him. first off he is less skilled at it than Oro who was using an imperfect version. Second he himself forbade this jutsu meaning he does not use it. WHich also means in a battle even if he was desperate enough to want to use it I doubt he is walking around with dead bodies and samples of DNA he can use to perform it. Not to mention the little question of who he would summon anyway considering he was not a grave robber like kabuto(most likely).
Saying all this tobirama is not top 5 material. Not because he is not strong enough but simply because he has not shown us that he is strong enough. If we make him part of the top 5 then the white fang should be in the top ten and sasuke sarutobi the top 15. I am not saying was not silled just not as skilled as some assume.
